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| Quote ="The Silent H"Kind of like when Beaumont threw open the doors for that Leigh game a year or two back?'"
1 game v 3 seasons.
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| Toronto, still living rent free in Donnyman and Leigh fans heads
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"Toronto, still living rent free in Donnyman and Leigh fans heads
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Good job it's rent free isn't it or they would default on the payments bloody quickly.
As per. LOL.
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| Quote ="The Silent H"Kind of like when Beaumont threw open the doors for that Leigh game a year or two back?'"
why was they selling swedish meat balls there too
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| Quote ="The Silent H"Kind of like when Beaumont threw open the doors for that Leigh game a year or two back?'"
You mean the Batley game that was given to the town? With Batley supporters invited to enjoy the day! Great day and great support from Batley..
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| Quote ="Donnyman"icon_lol.gif
How many paid to get in, how many stayed in the beer tents, how genuine were TWP's crowds stats.
TWP were brought in to bring a new player pool to the game and paying TV deals. Perez himself said that.
Crowds were not the aim of bringing TWP into the game but were used to claim success and you fell for it
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Huddersfield offered free game once and still didn't get the crowds in
We've done cheap tickets in the past and hasn't boosted the crowd that greatly compared to usual
People won't go if they simply aren't interested
Toronto proved they could get more people in than all but 4 or 5 SL clubs
And you expect them to manage it in a year?
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| Quote ="snowie"why was they selling swedish meat balls there too
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You know what they say about people who throw stones in glass houses.
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Huddersfield offered free game once and still didn't get the crowds in
We've done cheap tickets in the past and hasn't boosted the crowd that greatly compared to usual
People won't go if they simply aren't interested
Toronto proved they could get more people in than all but 4 or 5 SL clubs
And you expect them to manage it in a year?
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Be careful, comments like this on this forum will have you quickly being accused of many things.
However because of the success that Toronto had in finding a supporter base, which for some reason is a taboo subject, Rugby league needs a way to keep these people engaged with the game.
Is it Mcdermot and future plans, the Cccrl or will Ottawa become everything that we hoped Toronto would be?
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Huddersfield offered free game We've done cheap tickets in the past and hasn't boosted the crowd that greatly compared to usual People won't go if they simply aren't interested
Toronto proved they could get more people in than all but 4 or 5 SL clubs
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Let me try again. Eric Perez offered the game here a new player pool of professional NA RL players, and he offered the game here a paying NATV deal. More top players and more money was attractive to the clubs so they let them in.
But TWP delivered no players at all and not a cent of TV money. In doing so they lost $Tens of Millions?
What has anything you have posted got to do with it?
OK TWP had millions of fans, but when I went to see them at Headingley with SBW I only saw about four of them
Even Huddersfield away fans come and pay in better numbers than 4............
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Let me try again. Eric Perez offered the game here a new player pool of professional NA RL players, and he offered the game here a paying NATV deal. More top players and more money was attractive to the clubs so they let them in.
But TWP delivered no players at all and not a cent of TV money. In doing so they lost $Tens of Millions?
What has anything you have posted got to do with it?
OK TWP had millions of fans, but when I went to see them at Headingley with SBW I only saw about four of them
Even Huddersfield away fans come and pay in better numbers than 4............'"
Good to see a M62 club 'borrowing' ideas direct from Toronto in an effort to improve their attendances.
That is the M62 club that Hudgell has wanted to sell for some considerable amount of time.
Even former Super League player,and mental health advocate, Steve Ward has been attracted by Canada.
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| Quote ="The Silent H"You know what they say about people who throw stones in glass houses.'"
I've not a clue what your talking about would you care to explain further as I'm only responding to open gates at games and the fact that it doesn't work all season ok for a gimmick on a game or a thank you to fans support
the subject of a certain club that has gone last year doesn't seem to want to go away, you need to move on now
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Huddersfield offered free game once and still didn't get the crowds in
We've done cheap tickets in the past and hasn't boosted the crowd that greatly compared to usual
People won't go if they simply aren't interested
Toronto proved they could get more people in than all but 4 or 5 SL clubs
And you expect them to manage it in a year?
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Huddersfield had season tickets for £99 as well
but ask your self how did they manage to run up so much debt if they got more people in than 4-5 clubs
by the way they played 4 seasons not 1
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Let me try again. Eric Perez offered the game here a new player pool of professional NA RL players, and he offered the game here a paying NATV deal. More top players and more money was attractive to the clubs so they let them in.
But TWP delivered no players at all and not a cent of TV money. In doing so they lost $Tens of Millions?
What has anything you have posted got to do with it?
OK TWP had millions of fans, but when I went to see them at Headingley with SBW I only saw about four of them
Even Huddersfield away fans come and pay in better numbers than 4............'"
No club can generate TV money within a year
Even man utd weren't big after a year remember newton heath.....
Away support in a league where majority of clubs you could throw a Blanket over there away support
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| Quote ="snowie"
Ask ask your self how did they manage to run up so much debt if they got more people in than 4-5 clubs
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Don't charge anyone to get in, put on a big beer festival as the main attraction and don't pay any of your bills.
Ken Davey ought to try it
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"
No club can generate TV money within a year
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OK last post as we are in wind up territory............
Perez promised players "pretty quickly" through grid iron conversions which was to be the source of their instant player pool.
Funnily enough he was going to organise the conversions in which grid iron players converted to RL "pretty quickly" into a reality TV show he was going to sell the Canadian TV..........
So Perez did say he would generate TV money not "In a year" but right from from the off.
So if it's not a wind up your on, it certainly is a total lack of any research or inherent knowledge of what really happened.
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| Quote ="Donnyman"OK last post as we are in wind up territory............
Perez promised players "pretty quickly" through grid iron conversions which was to be the source of their instant player pool.
Funnily enough he was going to organise the conversions in which grid iron players converted to RL "pretty quickly" into a reality TV show he was going to sell the Canadian TV..........
So Perez did say he would generate TV money not "In a year" but right from from the off.
So if it's not a wind up your on, it certainly is a total lack of any research or inherent knowledge of what really happened.'"
and they say its us that keep bring up the subject
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| Quote ="snowie"and they say its us that keep bring up the subject'"
Us and them then? I'm not so sure, I think some people haven't got a grasp of the facts and that is understandable.
When so many people shout out about TWP or Catalans crowds because these clubs fail in the area of hard cash from TV and quality player development then others start to believe it was all about crowds.
So for the avoidance of doubt Catalans were brought in to provide French professionals for the revival of Anglo French tests
1960 France 20 GB 18 before 15,000 in Toulouse
1962 France 23 GB 13 before 14,000 in Perpignan
This is what the game wanted to get back to not 13 non French players filling first team jerseys at Les Cats, and two blokes wearing Beret's as the away crowd every time Catalans come to town.
As for TWP quality NA players were promised right from the start, but the start was one token NA player Ryan Burroughs. Once the first season was over and it was apparent the RFL didn't do anything then the start of building an Anglo-Aussie side began, and any idea of junior development fizzled to nothing. Burroughs then got his marching orders.
RUGBY LEAGUE IN CANADA is a totally different thing to TWP, it's the Canadian RL looking to build the game in Canada not act as a plaything for a bored mega rich (and still is) Aussie........
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| Instead of me having to trawl through 4 pages of Donnymans bile, can anyone condense the xenophobe please?
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"Instead of me having to trawl through 4 pages of Donnymans bile, can anyone condense the xenophobe please?'"
With respect you managed to troll me. So a few more pages shouldn’t be an issue
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| Quote ="snowie"I've not a clue what your talking about would you care to explain further as I'm only responding to open gates at games and the fact that it doesn't work all season ok for a gimmick on a game or a thank you to fans support
the subject of a certain club that has gone last year doesn't seem to want to go away, you need to move on now
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Never mind, enjoy the start to the season.
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| Quote ="The Silent H"Kind of like when Beaumont threw open the doors for that Leigh game a year or two back?'"
That was when Leigh had already been promoted to SL and in a dead rubber game v Batley he chose to make it free entry via a ticket system to reward the fans and Town.So no comparison is it!
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