Don't worry that particular poster doesn't understand anything.

According to the press their last league win was against us. IIRC they were very lucky to even win that game.

McD has survived and done well this long off the back of a team Tony Smith built. Since then their recruitment hasn't been as good, leading to the critical point at the end of 2017 when they finally lost the remains of that very powerful squad. In the early years, the squad virtually picked itself with only a bit of motivation needed. Players like Sinfield, Mags, Burrow, JP actually ran the team. Now they've all gone, McD has finally been exposed.

I,m not aware of anyone saying he is, maybe you are reading it as an inference.

ferres top of that list presumably?

wondering if sheens might retire at hull kr and the peacock effect might lead McDermott to them

I don't know the guy, I'm only judging by post match interviews etc and he seemed to me to have lost his drive, a change may be good for and for the club so good luck to him.

With regard to injuries I think Cas and Hull have been in the same boat a Leeds but they have coped better. Perhaps their overall squads are better but again that comes back to the coach

You must admit the last 3 performances have been odd.
Against St Helens Leeds were excellent and would have won if they had had a better goal kicker.
The Catalan game, again they should have held on for a win.
But against Wigan they looked absolutely clueless.
I thought having Myler back
may have helped but if anything they were worse.

The core of that team was in there before Tony Smith arrived. Also McDermott was his assistant in the first 2 years and we went backwards in 2006 after he left for Quinn’s so he more than helped “build that squad” that he later inherited.

dont want powell whinging whining sore loser. god at getting best out of weak squad, leeds job still too big for him

Mcdermotts biggest mistake this year, is he has constantly used injuries as an excuse, and kept telling himself and the rest of us, its will be ok when we i get my first choice side on the field. well tats not good enough at this level, there are 5-6 games we should have won and didn't and then the collapse against catalans and the wigan no show were the final straw.

I think after everything that BM has done for Leeds over the last 8 years that he deserved a more dignified send off than this. Whatever our individual thoughts on who ran the team etc.. he has 8 trophies in 8 years (I think) and so to get rid because he is losing games with probably more than 50% of his cap sat in the stands seems a little off to me. Yes, us and Hull have a lot of injuries and are doing better than Leeds, but I would have thought that McDermott would have had enough credit in the bank to at least have let him finish the season out like Wane is doing at Wigan. He deserved a bit more respect than this. Only my thoughts

This is why I think there is a little more to the story than we currently know.

^^ Maybe so mate, probably something that we'll never know though

Bang on.
After filling the Leeds trophy cabinet, it should be McDermott telling Leeds when he wanted to go or, didn't think he could do the job any longer.

Don't be silly. I agree regards him deserving to part on good terms but nobody gets a job for life as a coach, especially not when you are in charge of one of the biggest clubs in the game.

I'm not advocating a job for life but, the lack of respect shown to the Coach who has brought so much silverware is poor form.
McDermott seems like a proud bloke and one that would want to walk away if the job was too big for him.
Your club hasn't even afforded him the "left by mutual consent" line that is given to far lesser coaches.

Unless he's dug his heels in and said that he wouldnt leave, he appears to have been shat on rather than treated with the respect that he's earned.

Remember, some Leeds fans even wanted rid when you won the treble

Smith left Leeds over a decade ago. He was and is a great coach but it's complete bullpoop to discredit McDermott to say he's just lived off the back of that. That generation of players needed different things from their coaches over time. Smith worked well for a period, Brian McClennan was good for a while but was perhaps too disengaged from the skills side. McDermott came in and found the balance.

What the club needs now with another group of outstanding kids coming through is another Tony Smith to nag them and focus on the fundamentals. Maybe it would appeal to THE Tony Smith but he might also remember how terribly some Leeds fans treated him towards the end. Some things aren't new.

he's a very arrogant man. he would never have walked. ever.it could be Leeds offered the mutual consent but he refused.who knows?
2015 was sublime. people say cas reinvented rl last season but that's crap. we were as good if not better that year. not dismissing cas last year either. they were great. however last 2 1/2 seasons have seen us play some turgid boring stuff. no game plan, no shape and no tactics. yes we won it last year and he deserves credit for getting us to peak in the last 4/5 games but the rest of the season was dire.
def time for a change but I wish him well, some superb memories along the way as well some very odd decision making and press conferences

Agreed, a very ignominious departure, it will be interesting how the "injury ravaged" squad perform now he's gone.

A lot of people, myself included, saw that as a perfect time for him to draw a line under the era. We had won everything, the cornerstone of the success in Peacock and sinfield were moving on, and he had been in the job for 5 seasons as long as any coach had had the gig in my lifetime anyway;
the only way was down. 2016 was shocking.we were ok last season and took advantage of the other usual suspects being off their game to get into a position to be able to mug Cas in the final, that was an unexpected bonus but this season is back to a 2016 like effort and some of the performances are suggesting even the players are growing tired of the regime. Time has certainly come to part ways, but again i agree its a shame it has to end so abruptly but only GH and Mac know what has been said at the minute, maybe we will know in time.

Good riddance to the arrogant/miserable sod !

not this nonsense again

in your opinion. you only need to watch his interviews. plus speak to the players

Doubtful. Sheens has recently extended his contract with us. And peacock has no influence given he's only at the club 1 day a week.

If I was to guess, think he'll end up at Toronto or if New York ever take off there.

I do watch his interviews and I don’t see that at all. I see someone who constantly puts the success down to the players and the management and his other coaching staff, hardly arrogant. What it is these players, who continued to stay at the club year upon year (despite us hearing every year he’d lost the dressing room) saying exactly.