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| Quote ="Grimmy"I admire your optimism, and Bateman certainly wouldn't back down, but no, I think Woods would laugh at him, and we would be a man down.'"
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| The rest of our forwards are all soft. Im so glad it hasnt kicked off or else we would get an even bigger pasting than the last time we played Tonga. Comes to something when our only enforcer is bateman and he would struggle seeing as though bottles arent allowed on the pitch
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| Quote ="Lebron James"The rest of our forwards are all soft. Im so glad it hasnt kicked off or else we would get an even bigger pasting than the last time we played Tonga. Comes to something when our only enforcer is bateman and he would struggle seeing as though bottles arent allowed on the pitch
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Says the hard as nails keyboard warrior - crawl bag under your stone there's a good lad.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"The rest of our forwards are all soft. Im so glad it hasnt kicked off or else we would get an even bigger pasting than the last time we played Tonga. Comes to something when our only enforcer is bateman and he would struggle seeing as though bottles arent allowed on the pitch
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Then predicts England by 4 v Aus on the other thread, some special kind of odd you arent you with all your 'regards' bollox.
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| On the biff, if the plan is to start something I'd be looking at the first kick by one of our players. Australia for years have got away with dubious late hits on kickers - especially with one ref. Klemmer absolutely smashed Hayne after he'd kicked for Fiji early on. The ref missed it and Hayne ended up giving a penalty for shoulder charging Slater soon after. Somebody ting Klemmer in that situation would highlight the fact he did it, and also let the Aussies know that England won't get pushed around by them. I doubt it would put Australia off their game but you never know.
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That’s video is a fantastic example of what is considered a loose carry. The defender has every right to tackle the ball/ball carrying arm, the ball was knocked out in the initial impact. There’s a big difference between that and reefing the ball which occurs after the initial impact.
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That’s video is a fantastic example of what is considered a loose carry. The defender has every right to tackle the ball/ball carrying arm, the ball was knocked out in the initial impact. There’s a big difference between that and reefing the ball which occurs after the initial impact.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"On the biff, if the plan is to start something I'd be looking at the first kick by one of our players. Australia for years have got away with dubious late hits on kickers - especially with one ref. Klemmer absolutely smashed Hayne after he'd kicked for Fiji early on. The ref missed it and Hayne ended up giving a penalty for shoulder charging Slater soon after. Somebody ting Klemmer in that situation would highlight the fact he did it, and also let the Aussies know that England won't get pushed around by them. I doubt it would put Australia off their game but you never know.'"
Very good call.
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| Quote ="Trainman"That’s video is a fantastic example of what is considered a loose carry. The defender has every right to tackle the ball/ball carrying arm, the ball was knocked out in the initial impact. There’s a big difference between that and reefing the ball which occurs after the initial impact.'"
Similar thing happened in Hull FC's only big moment of the 2013 CC Final. Shaul makes a break, Charnley chases back and dislodges the ball whilst making the tackle - knock on. Hull FC fans didn't moan about it though. Change that ruling and attackers will be dropping the ball left, right and centre to get a penalty.
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| [urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/41536394[/url
Pause the video in the above link on around 50 seconds. Do people think this shouldve been a scrum down, head and feed to Castleford? No. It was an absolutely brilliant try saving tackle from Danny McGuire which dislodged the ball from Edens grasp, went forward and was kicked out by a Leeds player. Scrum feed to Leeds.
To me this is no different to Whiteheads effort on Fifita. Brilliant try saving tackle causing Fifita to spill the ball forward. Had there been time left in the game a scrum wouldve rightly been awarded to England.
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| Shaw's spot on in that article.
That Pendlebury tackle is a blast from the past. Don't recall anyone complaining about it at the time. In fact Elia got flak from Murphy for the way he held the ball.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Shaw's spot on in that article.
That Pendlebury tackle is a blast from the past. Don't recall anyone complaining about it at the time. In fact Elia got flak from Murphy for the way he held the ball.'"
I'm not sure what they could complain about. Was stealing in the tackle still allowed then? It changed to one-on-one ball steal in the mid-90s?
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| Quote ="tigertot"I'm not sure what they could complain about. Was stealing in the tackle still allowed then? It changed to one-on-one ball steal in the mid-90s?'"
Good point, ball steals allowed in 87 no matter how many in the tackle. That makes me ask, why did they change the rule? The game then wasn't stifled by ball stealing. In effect the one on one rule on it has created a lot of controversy.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Good point, ball steals allowed in 87 no matter how many in the tackle. That makes me ask, why did they change the rule? The game then wasn't stifled by ball stealing. In effect the one on one rule on it has created a lot of controversy.'"
There is far more lost ball in the tackle now than when ball stealing was allowed. Nicky Kiss made a career out of it. I would definitely allow one-on-one ball steal.
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| Quote ="tigertot"There is far more lost ball in the tackle now than when ball stealing was allowed. Nicky Kiss made a career out of it. I would definitely allow one-on-one ball steal.'"
When Whitehead grabbed Fifita wasn't he the only tackler? So even if it was a ball steel was it not one on one anyway. I can't be bothered to view it again.
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| He might have been, but if Whitehead did rip it out (which he didn't) it should have been back to one, which I presume is Tonga's gripe.
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| Quote ="Rhinoshaund III"[urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/41536394[/url
Pause the video in the above link on around 50 seconds. Do people think this shouldve been a scrum down, head and feed to Castleford? No. It was an absolutely brilliant try saving tackle from Danny McGuire which dislodged the ball from Edens grasp, went forward and was kicked out by a Leeds player. Scrum feed to Leeds.
To me this is no different to Whiteheads effort on Fifita. Brilliant try saving tackle causing Fifita to spill the ball forward. Had there been time left in the game a scrum wouldve rightly been awarded to England.'"
Yep, both were a clear knock-on, and both good last ditch tackles. Browns attempted tackle on Fifita on the other hand was terrible!
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| Quote ="Rhinoshaund III"[urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/41536394[/url
Pause the video in the above link on around 50 seconds. Do people think this shouldve been a scrum down, head and feed to Castleford? No. It was an absolutely brilliant try saving tackle from Danny McGuire which dislodged the ball from Edens grasp, went forward and was kicked out by a Leeds player. Scrum feed to Leeds.'"
Knock on by Leeds. Walker follows in with the knees. Sending off offence. Cas back in it. RFL's pets.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Knock on by Leeds.'"
But it travelled backwards from a Leeds POV
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We'd have still beat you with 12 men
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Good point, ball steals allowed in 87 no matter how many in the tackle. That makes me ask, why did they change the rule? The game then wasn't stifled by ball stealing. In effect the one on one rule on it has created a lot of controversy.'"
I reckon we would see far more boring play if it was allowed. You would need to be heavily focused on securing the ball rather than looking for an offload.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Knock on by Leeds. Walker follows in with the knees. Sending off offence. Cas back in it. RFL's pets.'"
You're completely right. Cas were robbed. So were Tonga. RL is dead to me. There is no justice in the world.
Hopefully Aus can stick it to us Sat and Leeds in Feb. They may struggle, but with an Aussie ref and a little bit of luck. The imbalance were all suffering at the moment will be levelled.
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| Quote ="Rhinoshaund III"You're completely right. Cas were robbed. So were Tonga. RL is dead to me. There is no justice in the world.
Hopefully Aus can stick it to us Sat and Leeds in Feb. They may struggle, but with an Aussie ref and a little bit of luck. The imbalance were all suffering at the moment will be levelled.
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"But it travelled backwards from a Leeds POV
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