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| Wakefield have a pretty tough run in, Warrington just can't seem to click.
A half-decent coach can get 5 wins out of Catalans last 9, perpignan is always a difficult place to go and a good one could get them all 9.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Wakefield have a pretty tough run in, Warrington just can't seem to click.
A half-decent coach can get 5 wins out of Catalans last 9, perpignan is always a difficult place to go and a good one could get them all 9.'"
Warrington have lost 1 of their last 9 games in all competitions. Wakefield are running well at the moment and have Catalans ever won 9 in a row in SL ? I agree they could probably win all their home games but can't see them doing the business away from home consistently enough .
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Wakefield have a pretty tough run in, Warrington just can't seem to click.
A half-decent coach can get 5 wins out of Catalans last 9, perpignan is always a difficult place to go and a good one could get them all 9.'"
But nobody else has
Wigan, Saints (1 good win) and Leeds haven't then
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| Les Catalans win all their home games, win away against Widnes, and Wakefield need 4 wins from Hudds, Wigan, Salford, Leeds, Warrington, Cas, Widnes and Saints.
Im not saying Catalans will make it, but they wont have to be 'great' and others don't have to be 'terrible' for it to happen.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Les Catalans win all their home games, win away against Widnes, and Wakefield need 4 wins from Hudds, Wigan, Salford, Leeds, Warrington, Cas, Widnes and Saints.
Im not saying Catalans will make it, but they wont have to be 'great' and others don't have to be 'terrible' for it to happen.'"
I agree.
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| Quote ="vastman"But nobody else has
Wigan, Saints (1 good win) and Leeds haven't then
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Leeds have more points and an easier run in, Wigan have many to come back and an easier run in, Saints would expect the new coach bump to carry on but if it doesnt they could be in trouble as well.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Leeds have more points and an easier run in, Wigan have many to come back and an easier run in, Saints would expect the new coach bump to carry on but if it doesnt they could be in trouble as well.'"
How do Leeds and Wigan have an easier run in - who are these teams. Wern't Salford and Wakefield easy teams at the start of the season. Have Leigh and Widnes not got a shed load of players due back from injury.
You're only as good as your last game, no such thing as an easier run.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Les Catalans win all their home games, win away against Widnes, and Wakefield need 4 wins from Hudds, Wigan, Salford, Leeds, Warrington, Cas, Widnes and Saints.
Im not saying Catalans will make it, but they wont have to be 'great' and others don't have to be 'terrible' for it to happen.'"
Using this formula, any team could do the same ?
Catalan have been gash all season and a new coach on board wont suddenly turn them into world beaters.
Their star man, Bird, seems to want to be the "grub" of SL (and I believe he should be much better than that) and they seem to have lost most of their go froward since Taylor left .
The one thing they wont do is win 9/9.
You have them winning away at Wakefield a team in good form that have comfortably beaten them on the hallowed Perpignan turf plus, the 4 wins that you say they will need form will probably be just 2 (Huddersfield and Widnes), the rest of those fixtures will be very difficult for them to win.
It's just as likely (possibly more likely) that they will be playing Toulouse in the Middle 8's
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| Quote ="vastman"How do Leeds and Wigan have an easier run in - who are these teams. Wern't Salford and Wakefield easy teams at the start of the season. Have Leigh and Widnes not got a shed load of players due back from injury.
You're only as good as your last game, no such thing as an easier run.'"
Yeah if you wish, leigh and widnes are going to be brilliant now and all remaining fixtures are equal.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Using this formula, any team could do the same ?'" Yes.
Quote Catalan have been gash all season and a new coach on board wont suddenly turn them into world beaters.
Their star man, Bird, seems to want to be the "grub" of SL (and I believe he should be much better than that) and they seem to have lost most of their go froward since Taylor left .
The one thing they wont do is win 9/9.
You have them winning away at Wakefield
a team in good form that have comfortably beaten them on the hallowed Perpignan turf plus, the 4 wins that you say they will need form will probably be just 2 (Huddersfield and Widnes), the rest of those fixtures will be very difficult for them to win.
It's just as likely (possibly more likely) that they will be playing Toulouse in the Middle 8's'" Where do i have them winning away at Wakefield? Look, all im saying is that Les Catalans are always capable at home, and they have 5 home games left, I wouldnt be surprised to see a good coach get 7 wins out of them, If they get someone very good then... That would leave Wakefield needing 4 wins from Hudds home, Wigan away, Salford away, Leeds home, Hull away, Wire home, Cas home, Widnes away, Saints home. I dont think most fans would be thinking Wakefield have collapsed or played terribly if they were to lose against Wigan, Salford, Leeds, Hull, Cas, and one of Saints and Wire who will also likely be playing for a place in the top 8.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Yeah if you wish, leigh and widnes are going to be brilliant now and all remaining fixtures are equal.'"
As I say you were one of those claiming Wakefield would be crap and so far they haven't been. So yes why won't Widnes or Leigh have a purple patch and scalp a few top clubs - that's how sport works, that's the fun bit - that's why none of your daft theories ever work.
Again YOU ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS YOUR LAST GAME, now write that 1000 times on the blackboard please.
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| Catalans big problem now is finding a coach.
Who could do the job and lift them?
John Kear? Michael Potter? Justin Morgan? Aurelien Cologni?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Yeah if you wish, leigh and widnes are going to be brilliant now and all remaining fixtures are equal.'"
Want to qualify that remark or was that one of Leigh's "easy" games.
You make it so easy.
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| Even Shearings of Ribblesdale would think twice about that position.
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| Mick Potter is currently an assistant coach at Newcastle, as is Scott Dureau.
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| Quote ="roopy"Mick Potter is currently an assistant coach at Newcastle, as is Scott Dureau.'"
That is a sad demotion for him. But there is nothing to stop him from leaving his assistant coach position at Newcastle to take up a head coaching position, as Justin Holbrook just did by leaving Sydney Roosters mid-season for St Helens.
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| Quote ="vastman"Want to qualify that remark or was that one of Leigh's "easy" games.
You make it so easy.'"
Yeah, sure, Leigh, Cas, they're the same.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Yeah, sure, Leigh, Cas, they're the same.'"
Nothing to do with Cas and you know it, you said Leigh were "easy" well are they? - go on show some dignity - say - I was wrong
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| Quote ="vastman"Nothing to do with Cas and you know it, you said Leigh were "easy" well are they? - go on show some dignity - say - I was wrong
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Did i? Where?
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| Quote ="vastman"Want to qualify that remark or was that one of Leigh's "easy" games.
You make it so easy.'"
Looking forward to taking Cas apart on Monday , then the Rhino's and Wigan
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| Quote ="caslad75"Betts has had to use 40 players so far and we are only halfway into the season! I don't really know what else he could have done to be honest. I certainly don't think that he should be at risk due to circumstances out of his control. Yes, a good coach can get the best out of players, and clubs have a squad for a reason, but Widnes' situation has been exceptional to say the least.'"
Sounds like us ( Leigh ) back in 2005 , used 38 that year , not that that changed anybodies opinion of us just being rubbish and an embarrassment to SL ( Mr Hetheringtons words ) after a tonking at Hull
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| Quote ="Cokey"Gubby, If you are right, I'll track you down and buy you a pint.
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According to Smokey who can't even admit what he said, you are one of Leeds easy games - your easy - you are easy to beat - you are soft - you are not Cas or Leeds - you are not the same. I'm pretty sure that's what he said so don't get excited you can't beat them.
So just to clarify that you're easy so you've no chance
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| Quote ="vastman"According to Smokey who can't even admit what he said, you are one of Leeds easy games - your easy - you are easy to beat - you are soft - you are not Cas or Leeds - you are not the same. I'm pretty sure that's what he said so don't get excited you can't beat them.
So just to clarify that you're easy so you've no chance
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Leeds ? , never heard of um
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| Quote ="Cokey"Gubby, If you are right, I'll track you down and buy you a pint.
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