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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Those ' outside ' the sport don't take RL seriously , nothing to do with its structure
Now ANYBODY today watching that game unfold knowing the consequences could not dislike it
Pure drama'"
Not denying the game was electric.
But, the concept is wrong. To finish above the bottom placed club after 23 rounds, and then be relegated, it's a joke.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Not denying the game was electric.
But, the concept is wrong. To finish above the bottom placed club after 23 rounds, and then be relegated, it's a joke.'"
That's like saying if Saints and Hull had got through to the Grand Final it would be a joke because they finished below Wire and Wigan in the table.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Not denying the game was electric.
But, the concept is wrong. To finish above the bottom placed club after 23 rounds, and then be relegated, it's a joke.'"
To finish above everybody after 23 rounds and not be Champions is a joke
They are the rules , everybody knows them , simple as
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"To finish above everybody after 23 rounds and not be Champions is a joke
They are the rules , everybody knows them , simple as'"
I agree with that.
Yes they are the rules, doesn't make them good or right.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Not denying the game was electric.
But, the concept is wrong. To finish above the bottom placed club after 23 rounds, and then be relegated, it's a joke.'"
Makes perfect sense. The league does not finish after 23 rounds.
It's like saying we were top after the first game of the season ie we should be crowned champions.
Everyone knows how it starts and finishes. The league is an uneven structure anyway so a playoff makes it no more or less fair.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"They finished 4th in the middle 8 at the end of the season. Had it been a normal full season, it would mean 12th. In every other season since Super League started, the club at the bottom after 22 rounds did not go down, because the season is longer than that.
You could just as easily have 4th in the middle 8's go down and Rovers still go down. Huddersfield clambered off the bottom towards the end of the season.'"
So you relegate the 4th placed team in the middle 8's and promote the team who finished below them? I think there is a flaw in your plan
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| The middle 8's system is fine. The issue with the game is not the structure. It has never been the structure.
Its the number of people playing it and the amount of money coming into the game.
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| The new structure needs tweaking in my opinion.
The million pound game is a marketing joke. Taking no consideration into the livelihoods of anybody involved.
Yes the games are exciting but absolutely rotten to have all that at stake in the one game.
If we must stick to the structure then the bottom 3 just get relegated to the championship without all the fuss.
The top championship side could possibly be rewarded with a starter 2 points and the bottom SL club could be punished starting on minus 2.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"A more common sense structure would be 12th after 27 rounds has a play-off against the top Championship club, if you want drama. It would have kept the excitement for the play-offs.'"
YES I can go with that
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"So you relegate the 4th placed team in the middle 8's and promote the team who finished below them? I think there is a flaw in your plan'"
Sorry, yes, I thought I had it all sorted, but just before the end it all went badly wrong. Kinda the theme of the day.
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| The big problem is this....
It was always going to go down to the wire. A draw after full time then. Golden point is the issue. In reality, in a game this tight the team that was relegated really was down to the toss of a coin. If we'd won it, we receive it, drive up the field and drop the goal. Yes, Salford still had to actually do it, but the coin toss put everything in their favour.
A vital game like this should never have been allowed to be decided by the stupid golden point rule. Football realised this, that's why they got rid.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"The big problem is this....
It was always going to go down to the wire. A draw after full time then. Golden point is the issue. In reality, in a game this tight the team that was relegated really was down to the toss of a coin. If we'd won it, we receive it, drive up the field and drop the goal. Yes, Salford still had to actually do it, but the coin toss put everything in their favour.
A vital game like this should never have been allowed to be decided by the stupid golden point rule. Football realised this, that's why they got rid.'"
Don't agree with that, i mean look at last years NRL GF. Brisbane drop the restart and the cowboys get the ball back to win it. Salford still had to get up field and into position, and by rights he shouldn't be allowed to knock it over from there near Half way, but it was a great kick despite the lack of pressure. It's a bad way to lose it for either side in golden point but it's like penalties in football, not nice for the loser. still can't believe your side couldn't see it out 8 points up with 2 minutes to go, that's where the game went.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"The big problem is this....
It was always going to go down to the wire. A draw after full time then. Golden point is the issue. In reality, in a game this tight the team that was relegated really was down to the toss of a coin. If we'd won it, we receive it, drive up the field and drop the goal. Yes, Salford still had to actually do it, but the coin toss put everything in their favour.
A vital game like this should never have been allowed to be decided by the stupid golden point rule. Football realised this, that's why they got rid.'"
The got down to the 40 metre line from the kick off and then dropped it from 40 metres out. Worthy of winning any game, no problems there. I doubt hull kr would have been able to do that, they've lost 2 games by a drop goal.
Hull kr richly deserve to go down and now they'll have to take their medicine.
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| Spoken lile a Saints fan never having to face financial difficulties or relegation. Try them on for size and see how you feel.
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| You don't hear soccer fans whinging that the 6th placed team in the Championship got promoted over the 4th placed team because they beat them in Extra Time.
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"Spoken lile a Saints fan never having to face financial difficulties or relegation. Try them on for size and see how you feel.'"
I'm a leeds fan and we faced relegation and financial difficulties in 1996 and relegation this year.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"You don't hear soccer fans whinging that the 6th placed team in the Championship got promoted over the 4th placed team because they beat them in Extra Time.'"
My point exactly. Extra time, not golden point. They DID complain when football used golden point, that why they abandoned the idea.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Not denying the game was electric.
But, the concept is wrong. To finish above the bottom placed club after 23 rounds, and then be relegated, it's a joke.'" like what happend to Cas you mean under the old system?!?
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| Quote ="Gallanteer"My point exactly. Extra time, not golden point. They DID complain when football used golden point, that why they abandoned the idea.'"
There hasn't been any team promted via the Football League play-offs through golden goal.
The reason golden goal was abandoned was because it simply encouraged teams to play defensively and play for penalties. The flat 30 min extra time period encourages more open play.
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"That's like saying if Saints and Hull had got through to the Grand Final it would be a joke because they finished below Wire and Wigan in the table.'"
I seem to recall Widnes getting relegated after finishing above Catalan.
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| Quote ="AntonyGiant"The million pound game is a marketing joke. Taking no consideration into the livelihoods of anybody involved.'"
Could you please explain to me how being relegated via the MPG is worse for livelihoods than being relegated for finishing bottom?
Or are you advocating a return to no relegation or promotion?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Could you please explain to me how being relegated via the MPG is worse for livelihoods than being relegated for finishing bottom?
Or are you advocating a return to no relegation or promotion?'"
He might be PeaCOCK or COCKayne after their rants this week, even though the former thought the new system was a good idea in 2014.
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| [uJAMIE PEACOCK OPINION TIMELINE[/u
[url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/9139638/peacock-backs-new-structure[u2014 - Peacock backs new structure, Relegation is good.[/u[/url
[url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/leeds-rhinos-peacock-gives-new-format-the-thumbs-up-1-7379139[u2015 - Peacock gives new format the thumbs up! Lovely Jubbly, Yummy Yummy, fantastic, my team finished top, I'm alright Jack![/u[/url
[url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/jamie-peacock-column-million-pound-8949917[u2016 - Peacock in "Oh s**t! New structure is wrong and relegation has no place in RL because it now involves me" whinge, whine, moan![/u[/url
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| Quote ="William Eve"[uJAMIE PEACOCK OPINION TIMELINE[/u
[url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/9139638/peacock-backs-new-structure[u2014 - Peacock backs new structure, Relegation is good.[/u[/url
[url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/leeds-rhinos-peacock-gives-new-format-the-thumbs-up-1-7379139[u2015 - Peacock gives new format the thumbs up! Lovely Jubbly, Yummy Yummy, fantastic, my team finished top, I'm alright Jack![/u[/url
[url=http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/jamie-peacock-column-million-pound-8949917[u2016 - Peacock in "Oh s**t! New structure is wrong and relegation has no place in RL because it now involves me" whinge, whine, moan![/u[/url'"
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| Quote ="Kosh"Could you please explain to me how being relegated via the MPG is worse for livelihoods than being relegated for finishing bottom?
Or are you advocating a return to no relegation or promotion?'"
No I'm for promotion and relegation. Always have been, always will be.
I'm not for making 1 game the game that can ruin a team.
Through the mini league system yes I'm all for it.
I'd of seen a system where we (Giants) got relegated and Leigh auto promoted but it won't happen hence the small tweeking scrapping the MPG
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