Ah, that must mean the current standard of Super League is as strong as ever then

I certainly wouldn't take jake webster over mahe fonua who is looking unplayable currently

There are a few players who have had very good seasons when they've played but possibly not had enough matches to be included. In no particular order I'd choose from:

FB - Shaul, Dorn, Gigot
W - Solomona, Manfredi, Johnston
C - Fonoua, Gelling, Percival,
SO - Brown, Williams, Gidley
SH - Sneyd, Gale, Sandow (all options for SO too if it's picked as halves)
P - S Taylor, D Taylor, Hill, Watts
H - Houghton, Clarke
SR - Currie, Bateman, Minichello, Stewart
LF - Ellis, Westerman

Whilst I totally agree with your selections, that "dream team" is the worst I can think of for a long time. Depsite hull fc and Warrington wolfs fans telling us that the standard of super league is as high as it has always Been, that dream team would lose by about 300 points to an Aussie dream team and about 60 points to a png dream team

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King James

How many games has dorn played? Seems to have been injured a lot but is a quality player who I've rated since he first came over here

The dream team hasn't been the same since leeds were relegated

Hasn't the Dream Team been picked from mainly homegrown players over the last few years, including the French in that?

Taylor has had an excellent season, as have Ellis and Houghton for Hull. Saints aren't the same attacking threat without Percival which shows he is doing something right, Bateman has carried Wigan's to victory on his own in a few games. They would be my five.

As for my team, Widnes, I'm struggling. A lot of our 'big' players have missed quite a few games, Hanbury is a constant threat with the ball but he's no Paul Wellens when it comes to defending, Lloyd White is steady and can influence a game when he moves to LF when Heremaia comes on.

I would plump for Matt Whitley as an outside chance for young player of the year. He's played plenty of minutes, runs good lines and tackles above his stature. Hopefully we keep hold of him for years to come.

Catalans:

Morgan Escare
Jodie Broughton
Fouad Yaha
Anthony Gigot
Vincent Duport
Krisnan Inu
Lucas Albert
Thomas Bosc
Richard Myler
Todd Carney
Jason Baitieri
Glenn Stewart
Jerome Bousquet
David Taylor
Louis Anderson
Remi Casty
Paul Aiton
Eloi Pellissier

Championship Dream Team

Iliess Macani
Ben Hellewell
Elliot Kear
Rhys Williams
Jamie Soward
Nick Slyney
James Cunningham
Mark Ioane
Daniel Harrison
Jamie Thackray

Notable omission Jordan Sigismeau.

Super League Dream Team:


FB - Luke Dorn,
W - Denny Solomona, Dominic Manfredi,
CE - Krisnan Inu, Anthony Gigot
SO - Luke Gale
SH - Christopher Sandow
PR - David Taylor, Christopher Hill,
HO - Paul Aiton
SR - Mark Minichello, Glenn Stewart
LF - Gareth Ellis

Interchange: Eloi Pellissier. Louis Anderson, Jerome Bousquet, Kyle Amor

This is dream team nominations, not underachievers.

Shaul
Solomona Fonua Atkins Broughton/Talanoa
Miller/Gidley Gale/Sandow
Taylor Houghton Hill/Bousquet
Stewart/Westerman Minichiello
Ellis

A dream team isn't necessarily the best X13, it's those who have performed well this year. There is a lot of quality not in those selections.

Contrary to popular belief I'm not sure the standard of the league is as bad as some are making out. I think defences particularly those of teams towards the bottom of the league keep improving making it harder to score. A lot of teams play a very structured game based on percentages, we are where the Australians were about 10 years ago when they decided they needed to tidy a few things up. I watch the NRL regularly, they have a lot less niggle and a lot less messing about at the play the ball with the ref controlling that area and another ref controlling off side at the defensive line. This leads to a cleaner ruck and a better product.

SL must be of a higher standard than last year or how can you explain last season's treble winners being relegated to the middle 8's?

It's a bit too early for a Dream Team but here's what mine would be so far:

1. Shaul
2. Broughton
3. Fonua
4. Atkins
5. Solomona
6. Gale
7. Sneyd
8. Taylor
9. Houghton
10. Bousquet
11. Currie
12. Miniciello
13. Ellis

No-one from my team deserves to be in it this season, though special mention has to go to Jimmy Keinhorst for working his backside off and putting in good performances even whilst the rest of the team were dire.

I can't see middle 8's players being eligible anyway

Why? I'd expect the players to come from the 12 teams which started SL this year.

Don't think he should be considered for the dream team, but Segeyaro has been very good when I have seen him play. No coincidence Leeds' upturn in form coincided with his signing.

Talk of how bad this years dream team by some, had me looking back to a couple of years ago 2014. Is it going to be much worse than this lot?

Full-back: Zak Hardaker (Leeds Rhinos)
Wing: Ryan Hall (Leeds Rhinos)
Centre: Michael Shenton (Castleford Tigers)
Centre: Kallum Watkins (Leeds Rhinos)
Wing: Tommy Makinson (St Helens)
Stand-off: Kevin Brown (Widnes Vikings)
Scrum-half: Matty Smith (Wigan Warriors)
Prop: Jamie Peacock (Leeds Rhinos)
Hooker: Daryl Clark (Castleford Tigers)
Prop: Chris Hill (Warrington Wolves)
Second Row: Elliott Whitehead (Catalan Dragons)
Second Row: Carl Ablett (Leeds Rhinos)
Loose forward: Sean O’Loughlin (Wigan Warriors)

Or the 2013 team?

Sam Tomkins
Josh Charnley
Leroy Cudjoe
Ben Crooks
Tom Lineham
Danny Brough †
Matty Smith
Eorl Crabtree
Shaun Lunt
Jamie Peacock
Brett Ferres
Danny Kirmond
Sean O'Loughlin

Yeah I think it's substantially worse - what the above does show though is that the decline has been coming over a few years. Leeds tactic of previous years to basically take the pee for most of the regular season and then only turn it on for the play-offs showed that.

I wouldn't

So players quality has declined, yet no other player is allowed to improve year on year? Fans just say it's the lack of quality, I notice in those dream team selections that the majority play for teams who have had poor seasons.

Yes I'm an fc fan but maybe because ourselves and wire have recruited better than anybody else over the last season or two some fans of the 'bigger clubs' don't want to see it. Fault lies at your own club for signing poorer quality players

Agreed on FC's and Wire's recruitment.