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| Aside from not being bankrupt are Salford any better now, on or off the field, since he took over? Arguably they have become the laughing stock of pro RL with his outbursts without a lot of return it would seem.
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| Quote ="Angelic Cynic"Kevin Locke made scurrilous allegations about Marwan Koukash which necessitated a press conference to rebut.'"
He didn't make scurrilous allegations about Marwan Koukash at all - he brought a claim against his employer for unpaid wages or unlawful deduction, which he lost.
Calm down dear.
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| Quote ="bren2k"He didn't make scurrilous allegations about Marwan Koukash at all - he brought a claim against his employer for unpaid wages or unlawful deduction, which he lost.
Calm down dear.'"
Always calm.
Dr Koukash can rest easy now.If he made one mistake it may have been the appointment of Brian Noble.
Some of the allegations made towards him during his short time in the sport would be that he signed 'mercenaries'.
It now appears that some of those players are heading to Leigh,so the allegations can be diverted.
Theo Fages is no longer involving himself in a tribunal and is leaving Salford.
It seems Dr Koukash has dealt with something of a player revolt more than adequately with a minimum of fuss and publicity,bar the need to defend his good name.
Oh,and without police involvement.
Dealing with the modern player does seem to be problematic.How are things at Wakefield?
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| Quote ="Angelic Cynic"It seems Dr Koukash has dealt with something of a player revolt more than adequately with a minimum of fuss and publicity'"
You're absolutely right - there has been next to no fuss or publicity at Salford during MarwanK's tenure; he's the consummate professional.
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| Quote ="South Coast RL"The best thing to happen to Marwan K and Salford is Tim Sheens. There has been a noticeable difference in how MK has behaved in public since Sheens has been at Salford.'"
Serial whinger hires serial whinger to try and offset serial whinging. They are bound to work well together. If there is any serial whinging to be done, Koukash now won't need to get involved, Sheens can do it.
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| Quote ="Angelic Cynic"Always calm.
Dr Koukash can rest easy now.If he made one mistake it may have been the appointment of Brian Noble.
Some of the allegations made towards him during his short time in the sport would be that he signed 'mercenaries'.
It now appears that some of those players are heading to Leigh,so the allegations can be diverted.
Theo Fages is no longer involving himself in a tribunal and is leaving Salford.
It seems Dr Koukash has dealt with something of a player revolt more than adequately with a minimum of fuss and publicity,bar the need to defend his good name.
Oh,and without police involvement.
Dealing with the modern player does seem to be problematic.How are things at Wakefield?'"
The suggestion that Salford 'may' have made one mistake is hilarious.
- Umpteen players and coaches wanting to leave before their contracts have ended.
- A chairman using inappropriate language at a press conference & on social media.
- Plenty of CCJs
- Plenty of visits from the bailiffs
- Empty headed promises of short term success.
running a professional sport club does seem problematic for Salford.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"An Ad Hominem response is always to be expected from you. You think it covers your lack of intellect. It doesnt.'"
I do that with you so as not to get dragged in to a 30 page quote-a-bore-off-a-move-the-goal-posts-when-losing-a-thon.
Still, if you really do want to debate the merits of our record breaking Sky TV deal & the recently announced, continued coverage of the challenge cup & international games on the BBC -vs- signing with Netflix, Eurosport, BT or Google TV deal then i'm more than happy to oblige. Only one of us will come out of that one looking like we're lacking any intellect and as usual when "debating" with you, that won't be me.
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| Quote ="Cripesginger"The suggestion that Salford 'may' have made one mistake is hilarious.
- Umpteen players and coaches wanting to leave before their contracts have ended.
- A chairman using inappropriate language at a press conference & on social media.
- Plenty of CCJs
- Plenty of visits from the bailiffs
- Empty headed promises of short term success.
running a professional sport club does seem problematic for Salford.'"
Yet there they are finishing higher in the Qualifiers than Widnes who have had the low profile - Stobart connected owner - and the respected Salford-born coach since before they were given their Super League position courtesy of Licensing;indeed the Widnes club epitomizes all that is perfect with the Licensing system.
For all the rumours of non-payment to players there are more players staying than wanting to go;apparently.
With all the debts to service,and wantaway players to contend with,having the local council not renege on agreements,Dr K appears to have been kept slightly busy and the CEO seems to have missed some bills to pay.
Unorthodox,certainly,but Dr K remains,and the club remains,despite what I believe are termed 'haters'.
Perhaps the critics could try running a professional rugby league club and report back on their findings?
I do suspect that Dr K has found a vast difference between those involved in racing and those involved in rugby league - and between those who do and those who comment on it.
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| Quote ="Angelic Cynic"Yet there they are finishing higher in the Qualifiers than Widnes who have had the low profile - Stobart connected owner - and the respected Salford-born coach since before they were given their Super League position courtesy of Licensing;indeed the Widnes club epitomizes all that is perfect with the Licensing system.
For all the rumours of non-payment to players there are more players staying than wanting to go;apparently.
With all the debts to service,and wantaway players to contend with,having the local council not renege on agreements,Dr K appears to have been kept slightly busy and the CEO seems to have missed some bills to pay.
Unorthodox,certainly,but Dr K remains,and the club remains,despite what I believe are termed 'haters'.
Perhaps the critics could try running a professional rugby league club and report back on their findings?
I do suspect that Dr K has found a vast difference between those involved in racing and those involved in rugby league - and between those who do and those who comment on it.'"
I see. When MK said Salford would finish top 4 / top 6 he really meant to say that three years in the aim was actually to finish above Widnes Wow, why didn't he say so
The following remain so?:
- Umpteen players and coaches wanting to leave before their contracts have ended.
- A chairman using inappropriate language at a press conference & on social media.
- Plenty of CCJs
- Plenty of visits from the bailiffs
- Empty headed promises of short term success.
Our sport is far from perfect but it deserves much better than this.
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| Quote ="loiner81"I do that with you so as not to get dragged in to a 30 page quote-a-bore-off-a-move-the-goal-posts-when-losing-a-thon.
Still, if you really do want to debate the merits of our record breaking Sky TV deal & the recently announced, continued coverage of the challenge cup & international games on the BBC -vs- signing with Netflix, Eurosport, BT or Google TV deal then i'm more than happy to oblige. Only one of us will come out of that one looking like we're lacking any intellect and as usual when "debating" with you, that won't be me.'" and another. Try and at least introduce some wit in to your ad hominems. If your going to be a bitch, at least be one of the acerbic funny ones.
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| Your men just want the game to bob along with cornor shop owners let the big money in to take the game too the next level.....if you think the likes of hethrington and his missus have not taken money from there clubs your away with the fairies
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| Quote ="Angelic Cynic"For all the rumours of non-payment to players there are more players staying than wanting to go;apparently.'"
re-read that back to yourself and tell me it's a "positive"
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Your men just want the game to bob along with cornor shop owners let the big money in to take the game too the next level.....if you think the likes of hethrington and his missus have not taken money from there clubs your away with the fairies'"
The likes of Caddick and Moran would be in crisis if their wealth dropped to the level of beaumont.
Though apparently Caddick might well be going that way with the amount Heatherington is apparently embezzling from him.
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| Quote ="South Coast RL"There is no doubt to put it mildly he has made a lot of mistakes. Does that mean he is not afforded the chance to put it right and run the club the way it should be? Sheens has been a calming influence and the club seems to be heading in the right direction. Only time will tell what he manages to achieve at Salford.
I'd rather wish them luck for the future than criticise the past.'"
It isnt the distant past...its the recent past and present.
Has Sheens stopped all ccj / baliff activity?
Harris parted company only a few weeks ago.
Around a week ago MK compared the CEO of summer rugby's most successful club to a prostitute.
A few days ago several senior 'in contract' players have been released en masse.
Other disputes are ongoing.
MK can do what he wants. It does not mean others cannot find these events pathetic.
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Your men just want the game to bob along with cornor shop owners let the big money in to take the game too the next level.....if you think the likes of hethrington and his missus have not taken money from there clubs your away with the fairies'"
You really are advertising your stupidity. You seem to know nothing about the wealth of people like Caddick / Leneghan / Davy etc . Moreover you clearly have no idea how rugby clubs are run and that CEOs (like Hetherington at Leeds or Vickers at Salford) are paid a salary
Given your monumental ignorance there should be no surprise that you think SL need MK x 10
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| nice of him to inform everyone that Fages had signed for saints rather than let saints announce it!
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| Quote ="meast"nice of him to inform everyone that Fages had signed for saints rather than let saints announce it!'"
Goodness knows what has gone on but it may be possible that Saints have acted in a under hand manner. Thus, Koukash may not be the baddy in this instance. However, if it suits an agenda....
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"Goodness knows what has gone on but it may be possible that Saints have acted in a under hand manner. Thus, Koukash may not be the baddy in this instance. However, if it suits an agenda....'"
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Would like to wish Theo Fages all the very best for the future and thank Saints for the Professional way they handled this move
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Yup, totally sounds like koukash is lashing out at the big bad Saints ...
Thats a Leigh signing announced by Koukash, and now a Saints signing too ...
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"Goodness knows what has gone on but it may be possible that Saints have acted in a under hand manner. '"
No according to Marwan.
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| "Yup, totally sounds like koukash is lashing out at the big bad Saints"
bet, he shot JFK as well.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"No according to Marwan.'"
Can you be sure he is not being sarcastic?
Like I said, I don't know what went on and neither do you. I was simply playing devil's advocate.
All we do know is that a player did not make himself available, for whatever reason, while his team mates were playing for the clubs future. However, it must be Koukash who is to blame. Must be.
Just a general point about this thread...Interesting that non Salford supporting posters appear to know more about what is going on at Salford than those on the Scarlet Turkey.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Yup, totally sounds like koukash is lashing out at the big bad Saints ...
Thats a Leigh signing announced by Koukash, and now a Saints signing too ...'"
Big in a kind of regional, minority sport kind of way.
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| He's being sarcastic. Someone asked why he'd announced it before Saints and he replied...
"I had shown the same professionalism and that is why I thanked them now"
So Saints have obviously been a bit naughty somewhere. Very surprised to hear that with KC and Sean Long in charge....
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"and another. Try and at least introduce some wit in to your ad hominems. If your going to be a bitch, at least be one of the acerbic funny ones.'"
Good one, coming from RLFans most boring poster and someone who throws more insults around than 99% of others here....
Anyway, shall we now discuss what you wanted to discuss or have you changed your mind?
You know, how signing with Netflix or Google TV, neither of which are even close to broadcasting live sports yet, would be a better option than the record breaking, recent Sky deal?
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