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| Quote ="gutterfax"Firstly......calm down. You'll do yourself a mischief with such a quick temper.
I asked if the "ban" was the work of Union or a local spat, with scores being settled. A number of "claims", but little documentation has been offered as to the "request" by the Union to cancel/ban games, but as with previous tales of governments or union banning League, very little actual proof.
Still, as if to prove both our points, you claim that the IRB have admonished the MRFU for their actions....proving that it was a local spat and nothing to do with some imaginary loving master plan to wipe out league......
I am not a Union fan by the way, but someone who doesn't regard pub teams as expansion, or heritage packed teams as proof of international growth either. It comforts you to call me a union fan, but the reality is, it's idiots like you with your narrow minds and narrower opinions who both drive existing fans away as well as putting off any potential newbies.
On the topic of Union "getting in the way". If I ran an organisation and a group of my members buggered off to set up a rival organisation in direct competition to mine, i'd crush them at every turn. But, instead of fighting back, it seems that so called die-hard RL fans would rather whimper about it not being fair......for 120 years.....and you call me pathetic
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The union ostrich is strong in this one.............
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"The union ostrich is strong in this one.............'"
So to be clear, you consider pub teams and 100% Australian Italian sides expansion and I'm an ostrich? You believe the parent organisation shouldn't come down hard on a splinter organisation set up in competition and your not whining because big bad nasty union is more popular and better run.
You are the typical rl fan who the majority of sports fans see as bitter and resentful.....and you're northern to boot.
Yeah......it's all unions fault
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| Quote ="galliant"Reading the facts it's obvious that its just local politics at play, which happens in all sports and in all countries. To keep banging on about 1895 etc just smacks of having a victim mentality. Gutterfax is right about it putting off any potential newbies, sport is supposed to be fun, not some fictional class battle with other sports.'" Nobody has 'banged on' about anything apart from you and the other union trolls. Nobody has claimed some sort of high level international conspiracy involving the IRB, what has been claimed is that the RU organisation in Morocco has been conspiring with their government to actively disrupt and ban RL, for which there is significant evidence.
Did Gutterfax really just describe the Morocco RL as a 'splinter organisation'? You are aware that RL and RU are different sports?
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| It's as much more pleasant board when people don't quote gutters. In fact without him this whole thread makes perfect sense and reasoned debate.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Nobody has 'banged on' about anything apart from you and the other union trolls. Nobody has claimed some sort of high level international conspiracy involving the IRB, what has been claimed is that the RU organisation in Morocco has been conspiring with their government to actively disrupt and ban RL, for which there is significant evidence.
Did Gutterfax really just describe the Morocco RL as a 'splinter organisation'?
You are aware that RL and RU are different sports?'"
No I referred to league as a splinter organisation from union....set up in direct competition to union. Because union is still bigger and more popular, some league fans think whining like a girl makes union look smaller....it doesn't
I also said in my first post on this subject that I suspect it was a local spat and it seems i was right.....but don't let that fact get in the way of another troll hunt. The governing body of rugby union have slapped down the locals who acted outside their remit......but lets sweep that aside too.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"So to be clear, you consider pub teams and 100% Australian Italian sides expansion and I'm an ostrich? You believe the parent organisation shouldn't come down hard on a splinter organisation set up in competition and your not whining because big bad nasty union is more popular and better run.
You are the typical rl fan who the majority of sports fans see as bitter and resentful.....and you're northern to boot.
Yeah......it's all unions fault'"
Nice bite!
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| Quote ="headhunter"Nobody has 'banged on' about anything apart from you and the other union trolls. Nobody has claimed some sort of high level international conspiracy involving the IRB, what has been claimed is that the RU organisation in Morocco has been conspiring with their government to actively disrupt and ban RL, for which there is significant evidence. '"
If you read Gansons Opticians post on page 2 of this thread you will see he/she mentions 1895, so i'm guessing he/she is a union troll? And I'm not sure what you mean by significant evidence, evidence means something slightly more tangible than the hearsay and comments of a student and the tour manager. It may or may not be true but at best its weak unsubstantiated evidence that would get laughed out of court.
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| Quote ="GansonTheClown"Nice bite!'"
Hank Marvin I am
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| All of us on here agree, I think, that Rugby League is a fantastic sport to watch and (for those who are able) to play. So anything that helps more people avail of the game globally is a good thing. Amazing to hear that there are now four teams up and running in Morocco and that the problems mentioned on here appear to be well on course for resolution.
[urlhttp://www.rugbyleagueinternationalscores.com/index.php/2012/07/mep-reverses-attempts-to-block-rugby-league-in-morocco/[/url
Pleased to read and helps recall seeing and being amazed by seeing Hussein M 'Barki's debut for Fulham in the inaugural game at Craven Cottage.
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| Quote ="Mr Churchill"All of us on here agree, I think, that Rugby League is a fantastic sport to watch and (for those who are able) to play. So anything that helps more people avail of the game globally is a good thing. Amazing to hear that there are now four teams up and running in Morocco and that the problems mentioned on here appear to be well on course for resolution.
[urlhttp://www.rugbyleagueinternationalscores.com/index.php/2012/07/mep-reverses-attempts-to-block-rugby-league-in-morocco/[/url
Pleased to read and helps recall seeing and being amazed by seeing Hussein M 'Barki's debut for Fulham in the inaugural game at Craven Cottage.'" That article is from 2012. There are currently no teams 'up and running' because the sport has been banned by the Moroccan government.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"So to be clear, you consider pub teams and 100% Australian Italian sides expansion and I'm an ostrich? You believe the parent organisation shouldn't come down hard on a splinter organisation set up in competition and your not whining because big bad nasty union is more popular and better run.
You are the typical rl fan who the majority of sports fans see as bitter and resentful.....and you're northern to boot.
Yeah......it's all unions fault'"
Union troll done good
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Union troll done good'"
If you say so......
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| Quote ="headhunter"That article is from 2012. There are currently no teams 'up and running' because the sport has been banned by the Moroccan government.'"
Apologies. I do hope the assistance now being given at EU Parliament level will help those people in Morocco who want to play Rugby League. I wonder if Hussein M'Barki is still around and might be able and willing to give support as an 'elder statesman' of Moroccan Rugby League?
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| Quote ="Mr Churchill"Apologies. I do hope the assistance now being given at EU Parliament level will help those people in Morocco who want to play Rugby League. I wonder if Hussein M'Barki is still around and might be able and willing to give support as an 'elder statesman' of Moroccan Rugby League?'"
I think Hussein was involved a decade or so ago but there was no money available from the International board to fund the game there.
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| Hi guys. I have heard some rumours about Moroccan RL. Can you tell my why things are so difficult over there?
"because of RU they blocked us with our governe,ent , so the moroccan misiter of sport told play rl and rl in same federation and this is the last thing we will do it , they are just a stillers pff sorry mate"
Make what you will of that. Just asked the question to Rabathos Rugby League Morocco on Facebook and that is what they replied. It sounds like the sports minister has told them RL has to be administered by their RU and they aren't having it. Give them a follow and show/give them a little support.
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| Either their government is very very dumb and can't figure out the difference between two sports with a similar name or union is once again showing its true colours and influencing decisions to the detriment of RL. If your Gutters you'll believe a third scenario that it is somehow RL's fault, the rest of the sensible world can see it is far more likely to be Union wkers sabotaging.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Either their government is very very dumb and can't figure out the difference between two sports with a similar name or union is once again showing its true colours and influencing decisions to the detriment of RL. If your Gutters you'll believe a third scenario that it is somehow RL's fault, the rest of the sensible world can see it is far more likely to be Union wkers sabotaging.'"
I said it was a local spat and that's what it is.......
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I said it was a local spat and that's what it is.......'" I bet you think the war in Syria is a 'local spat' too. Kim Jong-Un is threatening to bomb Seoul? Pfft, just a local spat.
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| Quote ="headhunter"I bet you think the war in Syria is a 'local spat' too. Kim Jong-Un is threatening to bomb Seoul? Pfft, just a local spat.'"
Comparing war and war mongering to rugby's code debate.....exaggerate much
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| I don't think he was comparing them..... exaggerate much!
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| Funny how these things only happen in countries that have a union presence, if you think it's not a result of union pressure you're very deluded.
Does it ever happen to other sports? No. Does it ever happen in countries where there's no union presence? No.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Comparing war and war mongering to rugby's code debate.....exaggerate much
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And it's not an exaggeration if applied to France in WW2.
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| Quote ="goobervision"And it's not an exaggeration if applied to France in WW2.'"
Indeed.....the French RL were decimated by the actions of the dastardly Unionites.
They were destroyed to the extent that the French didn't host international games after the war until the European Championships in 1946, the touring Kiwis a year later, The Kangaroos in 1949, they definitely didn't tour down under in 1951 or spend 800,000 francs on the World Cup trophy in 1954, or make the final that year.....yep, they were decimated.
What's gone on and is going on around the world is a nice excuse that some people can roll out to explain the utter failings of the sport to expand outside of its heartlands.
28 professional top tier teams playing in 2 comps globally. 11 are located along 1 motorway in the north of England and 9 are from 1 city in Australia......71% from 2 small areas. Yes, it's not fair that the media tend to ignore us unless it's a negative story and yes, it's annoying that Union can fill Twickenham for the opening of an envelope, but instead of whining about it, why not do something about it?
Start by filling whatever stadiums the RFL eventually announce for the Kiwis tour.......but I suspect there will be more whining about travel/transport costs, late scheduling and lack of leg room at stadiums........because that's the RL way!
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| Hopefully the EU can have some impact on this. It's difficult enough to try and establish and grow a sport anyway nevermind with another sport actively working against you. Especially when they have influence at government level.
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| Quote ="Him"Hopefully the EU can have some impact on this. It's difficult enough to try and establish and grow a sport anyway nevermind with another sport actively working against you. Especially when they have influence at government level.'"
Apparently the IRB have told the MRFU to back off.......so its more likely this local spat will be resolved now anyway and the game can flourish un impeded
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