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| Quote ="William Eve"Boo.
Cheats.
Aussies.
BOOOOOOOO.
England were great.
England were robbed.
By jingo.
Life is so unfair.'"
Go fvck yourself William.
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| Talking of grounding. Jennings was very lucky his wasn't chalked off!
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"A zoomed out version showing Inglis not near it. Good to see Channel 9 news made no mention of the controversy or robbing us.
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I reckon that photographer has the evidence!
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| Quote ="loiner81"Go fvck yourself William.'"
Stop feeding the troll FFS.Those of us with brains who have him and the others on ignore don't want to have to wade through you quoting him all over the place.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"How can you tell Inglis is not touching that ball? Show me the gap.'"
Inglis might be touching the ball but his hand clearly is at the side of the ball and not going downwards on it like Hall's, therefore Inglis surely can't be described as applying downward pressure in that shot.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Stop feeding the troll FFS.Those of us with brains who have him and the others on ignore don't want to have to wade through you quoting him all over the place.'"
Oh shut up you bell end. You've had to scroll an extra 2 inches to get past that post.
It took you longer to reply.
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| 50/50 call if the try had been at the other end I would have been disappointed if Australia had been awarded it. We will beat the Aussies when we produce a creative half back that can control the game and has a kicking game that is international standard
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| Be nice to have NRL refs who know the international rules! They look out of their depth when their is only one of them having to control the game.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Be nice to have NRL refs who know the international rules! They look out of their depth when their is only one of them having to control the game.'"
Two refs at international level is perhaps the way forward.
At least that way, the Aussies and the English get to select one each because neither of them support the concept of neutral refs.
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| Ball flat on ground, finger bent back from pressure. Frick we were robbed!
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| Like true convicts they always find a way out of jail.
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| How many more irrelevant photos which prove nothing?
The only relevant fact is that England once again couldn't hack it in the 2nd half of an international for the umpteenth time.
Not even when victory was there for the taking.
Bottleless gets.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Ball flat on ground, finger bent back from pressure. Frick we were robbed'"
Yep, should have been awarded. Can't believe it really, I didn't see anything other than a try tbh from the first replay.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Inglis might be touching the ball but his hand clearly is at the side of the ball and not going downwards on it like Hall's, therefore Inglis surely can't be described as applying downward pressure in that shot.'"
Like I said. I've seen them given.
The point is - the video ref system is a busted flush.
I was always in favour of video referees because I thought it would be impossible to screw up a decision. But since its inception there have been some absolutely shocking calls. We should cut it loose and save the money.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"How can you tell Inglis is not touching that ball? Show me the gap.'"
See JB Down Under's pic from the photographer on the other side.
Hope it helps.
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| The thing about the VR's decision is whether people think it was a try or no try, I don't think anybody else in a million years believes that the "ball was on the rise" or whatever explaination he gave.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"The thing about the VR's decision is whether people think it was a try or no try, I don't think anybody else in a million years believes that the "ball was on the rise" or whatever explaination he gave.'"
The simple fact is he didn't have the bottle to give the try against the Aussies because he's an Aussie.
It's unfair on the officials in a way that this gets thrown at them because they shouldn't be put in that position. Ryan Hall said he'd been told it would have been a try in superleague but it's a try in anyone's money.
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| Does Inglis not get downward pressure when first trying to sweep the ball out?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"The simple fact is he didn't have the bottle to give the try against the Aussies because he's an Aussie.
It's unfair on the officials in a way that this gets thrown at them because they shouldn't be put in that position. Ryan Hall said he'd been told it would have been a try in superleague but it's a try in anyone's money.'"
This.
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| Quote ="Mike Oxlong"Does Inglis not get downward pressure when first trying to sweep the ball out?'"
The VR obviously didn't think so otherwise it'd have been a drop out.
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| Quote ="Mike Oxlong"Does Inglis not get downward pressure when first trying to sweep the ball out?'"
the defensive player has to intentionally ground the ball. Inglis may have got downward pressure but he didn't intend to ground the ball.
TBF that would have been a 'better' decision even though clearly still wrong. I would have disagreed but I can see the process that comes to that decision.
The decision we got was just nonsense, an awful decision with a worse attempted justification.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"50/50 call if the try had been at the other end I would have been disappointed if Australia had been awarded it. We will beat the Aussies when we produce a creative half back that can control the game and has a kicking game that is international standard'"
I don't think it was a 50/50 call. It was one which would hurt if you got it against you, and live you wouldn't believe had gone against you. But it was the last meaningful play, the clock was stocked, the VR had as long as he wanted to make it and plenty of evidence all pretty conclusive one way.
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| Quote ="wiganermike"Obviously I am looking at it from the point of view of a disappointed England fan but that incident for me highlights that we need to have a strict policy of neutral officials only. It's not as if we couldn't have done so either. We have all seen the replays of it and the ball was clearly flat on the ground with Hall's finger on it, it should have been a try. We can never know for sure whether a neutral official would have awarded a try or whether had it been Australia rather than England looking to tie the match that the try would have been given. However that the decision that would likely have put Australia out of the tournament or kept them in it was in the hands of an Australian is ridiculous. With a non-neutral official making such an important decision in the favour of his own nation it is always going to smell fishy. Had a Frenchman made that call we would still be disappointed of course but there wouldn't be the same opportunity for (or feeling of) suspicion of home bias.
Publicly bemoaning the decision would do us no favours and credit to the players and coach for not doing so but hopefully there will be some done in private so that we can get a rule change to require use of neutral officials from now on.'"
This. There is no way in professional international sport that we should be having a situation where referees are allowed to adjudicate where countries of their home birth are playing. That was a try without a shadow of a doubt and the australian referees explanation (plus video referee) was less than convincing. You think that Cameron Smith had won the competition running around the field with that ridiculous hat on.
Corrupt.
It should never be allowed to happen again with immediate changes needed...
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| Surely in a tournament the referee appointments for all group games should be decided and announced prior to the tournament commencing ? This process of appointing on a game by game basis is the problem, it's always going to lead to situations like this.
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