The simple fact is that Dr Koukash will clearly never know a fraction of what it takes to run a successful club as the majority of posters to these forums do. The sooner he learns this & scuttles away from our cash-rich sport the better.

The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about...

I'm loving the ride and I don't wanna get off !!!!!!

You are aware that they have won the Champions League and Uefa Cup over the last two years aren't you?

Here is their recent record
2005 1st in League, League Cup winner
2006 1st in League
2007 2nd in League, FA Cup winner, League Cup winner
2008 2nd in League
2009 3rd in League, FA Cup winner
2010 1st in League, FA Cup winner
2011 2nd in league
2012 6th in league, FA Cup winner, Champions League winner
2013 3rd in league, UEFA Cup winner

Not too shabby eh? Hardly a crisis if they have been winners or top 3 for nearly a decade.

And they have spent shed-loads of money on buying superstars whilst farming out their young players (30 loaned out this season) with the likes of Josh McEachrin and Romelu Lukaku unable to get a shot at the first team (despite both clearly being good enough) whereas they throw ridiculous amounts of money at a superstar in his final years of playing the game to lead their line up front. Incidentally McEachrin is the only English player who would merit first team status as all their star reserves are foreign players.

You should not use footy teams for your argument unless you are sure they merit the comparison.

Was just about to flag up the fact that Chelsea [istruggled[/i their way to the European Cup 18 months ago. Must have been horrendous for the fans. Hope Salford never endure such [istruggle[/i under Koukash after all the trophy laden years we've enjoyed recently.

I think Koukash has been a complete breath of fresh air and exactly what the game needs. I can't stand this warped general consensus in the game that you should come in, stick to the status quo ante and hope that in ten years you have developed a few decent home grown players.

In any other industry if someone comes in to save a failing business you expect them to make sweeping changes and fast. Yet in RL we still have this WMC attitude and simply for showing ambition and passion Koukash has received criticism from all angles. He may come out with the odd mad line but at the end of the day he is evidently an intelligent man, he knows how to get his name in the papers, very important when you have two of the biggest clubs in world soccer on your door step.

Personally I am excited to see how Salford get on this year, it has been a while since I have said that about any club.

Fine miss my point completely, and let's argue about football.

Given the money Chelsea have spent, they should be far more dominant then they have been. That's why the Benitez, di Matteo, villa boas, and ancelotti got sacked.

A) First thing he did was buy the 'Most Successful ' coach in the game. Brian Noble

B) Second thing he did was buy the best trainer and support staff in the game -
Richard Hunwicks ( Head of Strength & Conditioning & Applied Sports Science at Salford Red Devils & England Knights,UKSCA Tutor, formerly with Leeds Rhinos, Wales RL & EIS) Rob Artingstall ( senior physiotherapist at Sale Sharks. consultant physiotherapist to Red Bull Extreme Racing & Mcr Spire Hospital ) Andy Hay ( Cas & Hull assistant ) Stuart Donlan

C)Third thing he did was strike a deal for the use of top class training facilities. -
Brand New Gym, Players Lounge & training faciliites just installed in the close season , Australia Trained there in the week leading up to the RLWC Final ..Showed SBW around the stadium last Sunday .


He must have talked to Nathan Tinkler then ?

Villas Boas got sacked because he p!$$ed off Lampard and Terry and they are the main men at that club.

Ancellotti left the club after winning the double and they really wanted to keep him but he had his eyes set on Madrid

Benitez was an interim appointment until the end of that season and he won the Euro league

Di Matteo got sacked after a run of games that resemble Chelsea's current season total. Don't forget he managed them to the champions league about three months before he was ousted.

Grant got sacked because he finished second place in the league.

Mourinho got sacked the first time around with results that resemble the current total.

The above is down to a meglomaniac chairman having a win everything at all costs mentality. Absolutely nothing to do with spending billions, just a mad russian with an itchy trigger finger, so to speak.

Again, if you are going to use a footy club as an analogy please try and get your facts right. And there is no need to huff when you are proven wrong.

Salary cap

Magic beetle, forgot to mention that several other clubs spent large (Man Utd, Man City, Spurs, Arsenal and Everton to a lesser extent) so surely all of these should have dominated.

Or Madrid should have won everything every year due to the ridiculous amount of money they spent?

Money doesn't buy success, but it can help.

Starbug hits the nail on the head with Salary Cap.

Get over it. It will be nice to have a different team trying to mix it with the establishment for once. Hopefully I can finally go to Wembley to watch Salford rather than GB/Eng/Any team that makes the CC Final.

It is easier to buy success in RL than football, in football the quality player pool is vast with quality players from all over the world available ( meaning everybody else can also buy the best ) also the ability to ' blend ' is more important, whereas in RL if you have the best players you will be the best

However the salary cap should prevent that from happening

Bring it on, I do hope Mr Koucash is able to build the club as well as the team

Both Williams and Slater have signed for Bradford, so eat your heart out, Marwan

I'm not sure that using Manchester United and Warrington as examples of how to build long term success in a way that is different to what Marwan is doing really strengthens your argument. Manchester United were already building a culture of buying big before Ferguson took over, but he took things to the next level, buying anyone and everyone he could get his hands on until he finally lucked in to building a squad that could acquire trophies. Thereafter, having bought the core of the squad, he was able to go into tick-over mode, just making expensive signings here and there to replace players he was disposing of. Long term success built on a massive initial outlay.

Using Richie Myler as an example of a Warrington signing and then, by extension, using Warrington as an example of how to build long term success is just North Korean style revisionist history, because you've airbrushed out the signings of Langer, Johns, Morley, Hodgson, Solomona, etc....., players in the twilight of their autumns brought in to provide a short term boost to the squad. You can add Asotasi to that list too. That's exactly what Salford are doing: signing older players on short term deals, plus a few players whose off field activities might make other clubs think twice about signing them (Warrington have a three-quarter whose caninophilia saw him laughed out of the NRL, for example) with a view to better signings further down the line. As far as I can see, there are few differences between what Salford are doing now and what Warrington did five years or so ago, just that Salford are doing it more quickly, and signing slightly younger, slightly better (IMO) players than the ones Warrington were signing.

They're gonna get quite a shock cum payday.

But it's Rowan Williams and Nigel Slater. The club haven't got a prayer, but the catering has improved.

All the jealous heads are out again. Marwan will get his way. Good on him.

Worzel,

Both of us are being tongue in cheek. Nothing jealous, we all know Bradford are going through a torrid time but being able to use humour to mask the pain is something we do. Believe me at Salford we have had more than enough practice.

Any idea how season ticket sales are going for Salford?

Reckon we will break all records.

Up to five at the last count!!

Anyone who doesn't think Chase is better than Sneyd cannot be comprehended and doesn't deserve having their opinions verified. And that's from a Salford supporter.

Mate, where has that come from? No mention of Sneyd on this thread (just read it all again as your comment threw me completely off the scent). Nobody has commented on what you have responded to.

From Magic Superbeetle earlier in the thread....not even saying anything about Chase not being an Aussie either....

"Why sign 2 Aussie halfbacks, who are of arguable quality, when you have 2 highly rated youngsters who could be the corner stone of the team, for the next 10 years as Salford works up and become a real title contender?"

Yep, remember it now but the question answers itself doesn't it? Why use two experienced professionals when you can throw two up and comers at the lions? You may have noticed throughout his ripostes a lack of thought or fact mate.

Marwyn Koukash is a typical [inouveau riche[/i on the make socially. Problem is that his club is Salford, not an established powerhouse like Wigan, Warrington, St Helens or Leeds. Salford just doesn't have the same appeal.

Given that handicap, plus for Williams the appeal of living in Sydney and playing with so many Kiwi [ibros[/i, and for Slater the appeal of staying in Melbourne with Cooper Cronk, perhaps Cameron Smith, and Bellamy as coach, I consider it most unlikely that Slater or Williams will move to Salford in 2015.