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| The fact that the Broncos are such a diabolical team must put southerners off our game more than if they didn't have a club representing them at all
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| 61% less fans than we had 17 years ago. The depressing thing is that we've got 56% less than we had just 7 years ago and nobody at the Club seems to care or want to do anything about it.
The RFL need to step in in some shape.......the recent platitudes from Wood about "improving" strategy means nothing without some actual action by the sports governing body.
In the year 2000, Huddersfield Giants won 4 games, lost by an average of 19 points a game and were watched by 3,392.......fast forward to now and with clever and persistant use of KD's cash, they are challenging again and have doubled their average to over 7,000. They have repeatedly asked the locals to come and watch them....ticket offers, deals for students etc have all been used to coax locals to the club...
London in Y2K finished just above Hudds in front of 3,430 fans.......fast forward now and we are still cellar dwellers with 34% less fans. The club do nothing in the way of local marketing activity other than place an advert in the local free rag....they have never leafleted the locals, but instead have tried to target the entire city.....a pointless excercise.
Someone at the RFL needs to sit down with the club and find out why we are going backwards.....it is plain to see that if left to continue, it's not going to end well for the club or the sport for that matter.
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| Tbf Huddersfield's renaissance has been remarkable and they've had more their share of luck (like not being relegated when finishing bottom because of events elsewhere). I don't think they are a fair yardstick especially since they have the advantage of playing at the one ground.
Obviously though going backwards as quickly as Broncos have is pretty terrible.
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"Tbf Huddersfield's renaissance has been remarkable and they've had more their share of luck (like not being relegated when finishing bottom because of events elsewhere). I don't think they are a fair yardstick especially since they have the advantage of playing at the one ground.
Obviously though going backwards as quickly as Broncos have is pretty terrible.'"
We probably should have gone down in 2005 and nobody made the London Broncos move.....they did so because a series of owners and CEO's couldn't understand why fans weren't flocking to the games.
The WCC in 1997 showed that The Stoop could be filled if marketed correctly......but instead of kicking on, they simply sat back and expected those fans to come back with no encouragement. 9,846 watched the game v the other Broncos......it can be done, but it takes effort.
When Ian Lenegan bought into the club, many of us thought that at last, we had a successful businessman who knew what he was doing at the helm.....the short sightedness of the RFL in making him step away was the begining of the end for the club........it would have been very simple to "police" his ownership and ensure that everything was above board....instead, we have a generous commodities broker bankrolling us as a hobby with no effort in making us self sufficient, so when he walks away at the end of 2014.......well, you can guess what will happen then
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"Tbf Huddersfield's renaissance has been remarkable and they've had more their share of luck (like not being relegated when finishing bottom because of events elsewhere). I don't think they are a fair yardstick especially since they have the advantage of playing at the one ground.
Obviously though going backwards as quickly as Broncos have is pretty terrible.'"
We were relegated in 2001 and came straight back up, even in 2008 we finished 3rd from bottom so our rise is pretty recent and has no bearing on what happened in the late 90's.
As for London i think it is quite clear to see that it never has and probably now never will happen down there, a shame cos a decent set up in the South would enable the game to grow down there.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"61% less fans than we had 17 years ago. The depressing thing is that we've got 56% less than we had just 7 years ago and nobody at the Club seems to care or want to do anything about it.
The RFL need to step in in some shape.......the recent platitudes from Wood about "improving" strategy means nothing without some actual action by the sports governing body.
In the year 2000, Huddersfield Giants won 4 games, lost by an average of 19 points a game and were watched by 3,392.......fast forward to now and with clever and persistant use of KD's cash, they are challenging again and have doubled their average to over 7,000. They have repeatedly asked the locals to come and watch them....ticket offers, deals for students etc have all been used to coax locals to the club...
London in Y2K finished just above Hudds in front of 3,430 fans.......fast forward now and we are still cellar dwellers with 34% less fans. The club do nothing in the way of local marketing activity other than place an advert in the local free rag....they have never leafleted the locals, but instead have tried to target the entire city.....a pointless excercise.
Someone at the RFL needs to sit down with the club and find out why we are going backwards.....it is plain to see that if left to continue, it's not going to end well for the club or the sport for that matter.'"
Someone at the RFL needs to sit down with Lenegan and tell him its OK to have an interest in two clubs.
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"Tbf Huddersfield's renaissance has been remarkable and they've had more their share of luck (like not being relegated when finishing bottom because of events elsewhere). I don't think they are a fair yardstick especially since they have the advantage of playing at the one ground.
Obviously though going backwards as quickly as Broncos have is pretty terrible.'"
The lack of relegation did far more harm than good to Huddersfield, as evidenced by the progress made when we were eventually allowed to go down and rebuild. Can't really think of any other pieces of 'luck' Fartown have had over the past 40 years other than KD marrying a Giants fan!
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| Quote ="Knock On Nigel"The fact that the Broncos are such a diabolical team must put southerners off our game more than if they didn't have a club representing them at all'"
A very good point.
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| Quote ="Little Ivor"The lack of relegation did far more harm than good to Huddersfield, as evidenced by the progress made when we were eventually allowed to go down and rebuild. Can't really think of any other pieces of 'luck' Fartown have had over the past 40 years other than KD marrying a Giants fan!'"
i think for a couple of the years the favs lost the play off final....didnt dewsbury win it one year in which if they had lost we would have been relegated as the other team were "ready" for sl and dewsbury were not
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| Quote ="pollytyke"Not at the Quins game ! -6000 ish'"
My fault SKY SPORTS a week behind.
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| Quote ="Little Ivor"The lack of relegation did far more harm than good to Huddersfield, as evidenced by the progress made when we were eventually allowed to go down and rebuild. '"
As I remember it the rebuild had already started in the season Huddersfield were relegated. They started the turn around halfway through the season and it was only their dire performances before that that sent them down. I don't think that going down (only confirmed on the last day of the season when Wakefield won to finish just above them) did Huddersfield any good, but it did them no long term harm either.
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| Best thing that happened to us was relegation, we were nowhere near good enough or ready as a club to play with the best in the country at the time - we were kept up 4 years on the trot by different reasons and no one really wanted to be there as we weren't enjoying it and weren't going to improve by being kept up.
We did improve when we brought Tony Smith in but we still needed to go down to regroup and come back when we as a club were ready.
That's probably what London needed when the licensing came in - time to start from scratch if you like and build a club back up from a solid foundation.
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| Quote ="RLBandit"Someone at the RFL needs to sit down with Lenegan and tell him its OK to have an interest in two clubs.'"
doubtful he's be interested now....fat nige needs to pester more people in first class airport lounges
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| Quote ="gutterfax"doubtful he's be interested now....fat nige needs to pester more people in first class airport lounges
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By the size of him, he probabley does.
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| Quote ="Cassandra"By the size of him, he probabley does.'"
I meant millionaires, not waitresses
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| As a long time Broncos follower I can tell you now that there is no way I will be renewing my season ticket. The only way this club can move forward is if the rfl get their tight hands out of their pockets and find us a proper home whilst also promoting the game at grass roots level down here.
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| Quote ="Londonsteve"As a long time Broncos follower I can tell you now that there is no way I will be renewing my season ticket. The only way this club can move forward is if the rfl get their tight hands out of their pockets and find us a proper home whilst also promoting the game at grass roots level down here.'"
Wow.
Daddy I want a pony and i want it now!!!
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| Quote ="RLBandit"From She Who Must Be Obeyed .... "its bad enough watching every &@&#%*^ game, but don't tell me you're watching reserve team games too!"'"
Brilliant! (and fair play to your better half for paying enough attention, mine wouldn't look up from her kindle)
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| Quote ="Londonsteve"As a long time Broncos follower I can tell you now that there is no way I will be renewing my season ticket. The only way this club can move forward is if the rfl get their tight hands out of their pockets and find us a proper home whilst also promoting the game at grass roots level down here.'"
I think they should kidnap people for a day and make them attend games whilst blackmailing them that if they don't look happy they will shoot their family pets.
Bound to get the attendences up.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Wow.
Daddy I want a pony and i want it now!!!'"
To give you a little background here, the RFL cut off 50% of our yearly investment income when they told IL he couldn't have interests in 2 clubs and then did absolutely nothing to help us find another investor. The also continued to refuse to assist in out community costs, even though at the time we were solely responsible for the games promotion in London, but instead, set up their own office and "piggy-backed" on our work. Furthermore, they blatantly refuse to offer any additional assistance even though the cost of renting property/living in London can be up to 4 times that in the heartlands.....we can't afford the standard of players other teams can, even though DH spends to the cap.
London will fold at the end of 2014 (if not before) unless a new investor is found to share the burden that DH has carried since 2008 (9 million by the end of this season) and the work and investment carried out by the club over 17 years of SL will pretty much disappear.......all because the RFL refused to let a RL mad investor keep his stake in our club and help build the business side up......David Hughes is a saint, but he is not a businessman...he is a broker....he has money, but very little experience of running a day to day Business...Lenegan would have given us that...the RFL cut our throats in 2006/7.........
..so yep, demands for the RFL to assist us may seem a little "childish" to you, but we only want the same level off assistance doled out to 2 Heartland Clubs BEFORE WE GO BUST.....not afterwards.
London dropping out of SL will have those national sponsors kicking down the door even more than they are now
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| Quote ="gutterfax":
..so yep, demands for the RFL to assist us may seem a little "childish" to you, but we only want the same level off assistance doled out to 2 Heartland Clubs BEFORE WE GO BUST.....not afterwards.
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Are you sure this is what you'd want GF ? , seriously you want their ' marketing expertise ' ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Are you sure this is what you'd want GF ? , seriously you want their ' marketing expertise ' ?'"
only if we want to fold at the end of this season
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| Quote ="gutterfax"only if we want to fold at the end of this season
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Just hope they dont make a statement declaring
" We want London to be a Vibrant club worth supporting in their own right "
Its like the footy managers ' vote of confidence '
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| Quote ="Londonsteve"As a long time Broncos follower I can tell you now that there is no way I will be renewing my season ticket. The only way this club can move forward is if the rfl get their tight hands out of their pockets and find us a proper home whilst also promoting the game at grass roots level down here.'"
Well said.
If Nigel Wood can get on his high horse and start lecturing about how London must improve and all that, he should start backing up his sizeable presence and make sure that London is on a level playing field to the rest of the teams, which it most definitely isn't due to the unique challenges London brings. If the RFL wants a London presence then the RFL has to start investing in it instead of just hanging it out to dry.
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