Or they could just pay their staff what they can afford to pay like all well run businesses and all might be a bit better

sames as happens now, seen as they would be over age

strange one when you think years ago when we had A teams hull fc and hull kr tried to get their A teams in to the league so they would have played against the A teams as well as other teams how times have changed

And without the threat of relegation they can do just that.

Since why don't they. Even if there was p&r recruitment and coaching has to be right within the budget to stay up. Position should be earned on the field and within a solvent environment.

unfortunately those two things (staying up and being within budget) are often mutually exclusive. Position is earned on the field, thats why what the league points are for.

Anyway lets not turn this into another P+R debate, suffice to say i dont think we would be moving towards feeder clubs, which this seems to be, if those same feeder clubs were likely to become challengers to the parent clubs.

I'll just say one more thing to explain what i meant to avoid your "you are stupid statements". I meant your position throughout the leagues. Not just in a single league. The DR/Loan quota of 4 is fine as it is. If they can't afford the players let them go and sign them later.......for a fee.

(quote="DemonUK"I'll just say one more thing to explain what i meant to avoid your "you are stupid statements". I meant your position throughout the leagues. Not just in a single league.'"

If the league is still there they probably will. But this is unlikely as only 6 teams entered this year. I think a lot depends on whether the NCL allows dual registration of Championship players.

Feeder clubs. An offensive term for independent 100+ year old proud clubs. What the are we doing? Honestly? Have we no class any more?

:1unuzp6f So you wanted Hunslet Warriors playing in the Championship 1 this year then?

WTF are you talking about. Although this is how you win or end discussions by trying to tie people in knots. Who is paying more i am referring to SL clubs affording them. What is wrong with the current system. Why change all the age groups, why strangle youth development. After all that was a criteria in licensing. Rules changed again, just like the administration rules were changed a few weeks before crusaders originally went into admin. Anyway in short i know what i mean and i know i along with many others are ready to walk away.

You stated that you wanted the position within the league structure to be dependent on what happens on the field. This would have meant Hunslet Warriors joining Championship 1. I asked you if that is what you wanted? Pretty simple.

You then said if SL clubs couldnt afford certain players they should let them go, drop them down in to the championships, then buy them back at a cost. I was simply pointing out the obvious contradiction in suggesting a system where when clubs can't afford a player, they are asked to not only pay his wages but a transfer fee also.

What is wrong with the current system is that the jump between academy RL and SL is such vast chasm that our youngsters often end up under-prepared for first team rugby, they don’t have their deficiencies ironed out early enough, and they aren’t playing against high enough quality at a young enough age, they aren’t improving how they should and that filters to the rest of the game.

Im not sure this particular system is the best way to go about it, I think we should be looking to more youngsters not less and when it comes to youth development, I don’t think any idea should be off the table, I wouldn’t be particularly averse to banning anyone under 19 playing SL, taking all youth development away from SL and implementing some kind of draft system but I also appreciate that there are some clear structural reasons we cant do that at the moment.

Im also not sure why some fans seem to see that formalising the championships place in the RL pyramid as being between the amateur game and SL as being somehow insulting

no such club

HTH

What does the NCL have to do with this?

Quote ="robt90"no such club HTH'" You best tell these guys then hunsletwarriors.co.uk/ hth

Quote ="robt90"no such club HTH'" You best tell these guys then hunsletwarriors.co.uk/ hth

Lol.

BARLA is to blame for there being no colts league.

You've got to be kidding!

Only if the CC want them.

If the NCL allow fringe Championship players to play there then the appalling Championship U23s would fold instantly whether Leigh want to enter or not. It clearly wouldn't even get the 6 sides it has this year.

How ignorant are you?

Why do you think champ clubs would want there players going out to NCL clubs?
Wouldn't they be better letting them go out to champ 1 clubs if needs must?

They're forbidden from sending players to Championship 1 clubs. But I think you'll find the NCL premier division is a higher standard than Championship U23 and next year will be a higher standard than Championship 1 probably. Would you rather Leigh sent a fringe player to Leigh Miners Rangers, Gateshead or a maybe 4 team U23 league? Bearing in mind LMR would be the highest standard of the three.

you'd want them playing at the highest possible standard.
My preferance would be to make a stronger, bigger under 23s.
If we start shoveling players out to NCL clubs what do the amateur players aim for.

A stronger bigger U23 isn't happening and is weaker than NCL anyway (apart from perhaps Featherstone U23 who ran away with the tiny league). And no reason amateur players can't play NCL as well. I'd limit the number of players each NCL club could have dual registration though.