sorry but that is how origin is played and if you dont like it stop saying there the best team/ players in the world. it great not to see a team with a nippy hooker run ten meters because it is impossible for any tackling players to get back in time. why he said its a brit thing no idea didnt see the interview was late here and i wanted to sleep, but hes talking bull its an nrl tatic and its made them have some great attacking players as its harder to break a solid defence line rather than a dogs back leg because some one has hit the floor faster than a rugby union player got back up and played the ball quickly. Also aus where laying around alot more than new zealand and thats why they lost also the fact bentham gave aus a penalty for a high shot and smith does the same thing to sika and nothing given. I think refs are scared of aussie teams and are idiolising there players to much you could see bentham having an nice chat to the aussie players every time there was a break in play.

I think you will find the NRL has a happy balance regarding the play the ball.
Its not touch football where tackles are almost voluntarily to get the next play (Scooting, FFS ) trying to catch markers /teams offside but its also nothing like today's game where the Ref let it be a slow play the ball.

The Ref decides the rhythm of the play the ball early in the game.
The players play to the whistle.

i watched the whole of the origin and it looked no different from last night apart from there is more intensity in the origin match.

Well if that's what the pinnacle of our game has become then I'm happy to settle for second best.

It's a load of bollox saying the players will adapt to how the ref lets then play. The best players in the world are there to play - not spoil play. It doesn't say much for their aspirations. RL was once a great sport to watch - it's going down the pan quicker than last nights curry if all that our best players want to do is wrestle on the ground. They could take a little responsibility and actually try to play a bit of rugby.

It was boring as fook.

The speed of that ruck was marginal, and I mean marginally slower than the weekly rounds of the NRL. If Sheens and Kearney want a quicker PTB, tell their respective players to get their ing hands off the ball in the ruck.

Poor comments from Sheens and if the RFL had any balls they would say something. I can't imagine them fining him though

I think Sheens should be banned from RL Fans Forum.

Sheens may have a point but he's certainly got no class. He's a typical Australian, having lived in Sydney and been labelled whinging Pom more times than I care to remember, it never ceases to amaze me how ironic that statement is, we may have invented whining but boy did they perfect it.

They do this every year, complain about the ref, stamp their feet until they get their own way.

Couldn't figure his comments out, was he saying he wanted the ref to penalise his own team for slowing the PTB down



If you don't like it, don't do it youreslves you whining Aussie tosspot.

But Chris returnofthechris the fact that you were built up to move to Oz and it did not suit you colours your judgement.

English people have been branded as whiners for decades nowadays there is a trend to brand Aussies as whiners at any chance there is to do so.
Maybe its the pommie influence starting to come through in Australian culture?
Some old things die hard, where I live there is an English enclave about 10ks away, you can smell them before you meet them.
In a Supermarket the Body odour comes across from the adjoining aisle.

The team plays to the Refs whistle.
Should Australia have jumped up from every tackle and the Kiwis hold Australia down in every tackle?
The Ref decides what he allows in the play the ball.

If they've got any sense they're using natural chemical deterrents to keep you crusty ockers at bay.

A good friend of mine has just returned after 6 months working in Aus. She says the country is fantastic, but the people are arrogant, rude and offensive. That's probably the 1,677th time I've heard that, and my personal experience backs it up. So full of themselves it's almost self-buggery.

Aus players and coaches cry and complain repeatedly about [ianything [/ithat doesn't suit them perfectly, until someone gives in. They're like a spoilt child. I can't help thinking the term 'whinging pom' was an ironic comment that got snapped up by an ocker too stupid to understand.

Anyway. Yes, it was a slow ptb last night, but I imagine the ref had been instructed to let a little go - he doesn't ref like that in SL. Hopefully things will tighten up.

That must be the reason that 1000's of your countrymen and women are moving to Australia or want too.
I do not care for many English people they seem arrogant, racist, obnoxious and have accents that make them sound somewhat thick.
Touché.

Ask yourself, where would you rather live?
If your answer if England you need your Head read.

Tim Sheens is a traditionalist , and he's keeping up that tradition of Aussie coaches complaining about the refereeing after the 1 st game , win or lose , they do it every tournament , next week the Aussie players will be instructed to dive about shaking themselves violently in some pretence that they are being held down , this will earn them penalties galore

Australia will win

He has now put the England team at a massive disadvantage , do they play things as they were allowed last night ? , which was quite ridiculous , it was a slower game than a NW counties match from both sides , the Aussies started it , were allowed to get away with it , so eventually the Kiwi's did the same

The RFL should insist upon Ganson , he's the only ref that would ignore Tim Sheens moaning

As for the whinging Pom , well that was a reference to immigrants decades ago who complained about the heat , crap beer and the lack of proper fish and chips , but the RL administration of Australia have refined it into an art form , they are indeed World Champions at it

Try having an OE in London mate

An Australian calling an English person racist, you lot really don't understand irony do you!

And I must need my head reading as England is a far better country to live in IMO.

As for accents sounding thick, have you been to Queensland .

Why is everyone whinging? According to 95% of members on here SL is infinitely faster and a quick play-the-ball is our main weapon. Both the NZ and Aus coach are slamming the ref for the slow play the ball. They've just done us a favour, is the only logical conclusion.

"Those damn Aussies, slamming the refs so they speed up the play the ball to.......................... suit our own style of play and put us at an advantage"

Really what we're seeing is the typical English spirit of pre-emptive excuses and conspiracies. The fact is Sheen and Kearney say nothing and everyone is on here whinging about how the Four Nations will be reffed NRL style(even though last night was nothing like an NRL game), but Sheens and Kearney come out and slam the refereeing, which helps us as we all want a fast PTB, and we're complaining still that they have too much influence on international League and should effectively shut up?

This international refereeing tripe is good for nobody. What's amazing is that both SL and NRL fans and coaches want a quick play the ball. Go look at Australian forums, they're effectively holding the same opinion as people here, everyone, NZ, Kiwi and British wants a faster play the ball. Even all the coaches want a faster play the ball. So what the was last night about? Lets see how the England - Wales game goes

Play the ball was slow but the players didn't seem bothered and Bentham let it slide.

We all want quick PTB's but they should be physically earned by the players in the ruck area, as opposed to being manufactured or gifted by an insistence upon defenders having to release and retreat 10 metres within a split second of executing a tackle.

Quick PTB's should not be an automatic right.

I'd love to live in Australia. Beautiful country. Just one problem. It's full of Australians.

France has the same problem with the French.

"arrogant, racist, obnoxious and have accents that make them sound somewhat thick"...surely we're talking about ockers again?

I know plenty of people who've moved to Aus, found it's not all it's cracked up to be, and happily moved back home to blighty.

My friend. I have visited Australia and it is a fine country – it has beautiful beaches and natural wildlife and is blessed with a fantastic climate

But... for all the elements that matter to me on a day to day basis – with a richer culture, more history and a diversity of people and places then England is a stand out winner

Australia is a lovely place to visit for a holiday but I would never choose to live there as I would get so bored so quickly

Maybe Mr Sheens needs to polish up his act?

Exactly...Sheens sounded like Bob Fulton on a grumpy day.

that's the noise of the nail being hit on the head....

thanks for a nice holiday and g'day.

Quote ="morleys_deckchair"that's the noise of the nail being hit on the head.... thanks for a nice holiday and g'day.'" Is it? What do you do with your History and Culture that makes your life more enjoyable? You wake up and look at old buildings and soak up the "history" I live for what I do each day and rarely think about my ancestors or Captain Cook. I have been to the North of England I did not see that much "culture" to be honest. There was a culture but it was not a pleasant one. As Ian Henderson said a couple of years ago. "[iResidents of a former mining town in West Yorkshire have rotten teeth, spend too much time drinking and need a bath, an international rugby player has said. In an interview Ian Henderson, a former Bradford Bulls player and New Zealand Warriors hooker, said Castleford was "the worst place" he had lived in. Mr Henderson said "moving there just kills you" and added people "drank themselves silly".[/i news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 688460.stm There is a list of the Worlds most liveable cities published every year. Several Australian Cities make this list each year and are often close to the top, four feature in the top 10 this year with Melbourne being number 1 I have not seen Leeds, Wigan or Hull and others feature lately. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_mo ... ble_cities Sydney / Melbourne or Hull / Bradford? unless your Leon Pryce of course or members of this board. By the way Chris Australia does not have much in the way of accents only some speech styles.

Quote ="morleys_deckchair"that's the noise of the nail being hit on the head.... thanks for a nice holiday and g'day.'" Is it? What do you do with your History and Culture that makes your life more enjoyable? You wake up and look at old buildings and soak up the "history" I live for what I do each day and rarely think about my ancestors or Captain Cook. I have been to the North of England I did not see that much "culture" to be honest. There was a culture but it was not a pleasant one. As Ian Henderson said a couple of years ago. "[iResidents of a former mining town in West Yorkshire have rotten teeth, spend too much time drinking and need a bath, an international rugby player has said. In an interview Ian Henderson, a former Bradford Bulls player and New Zealand Warriors hooker, said Castleford was "the worst place" he had lived in. Mr Henderson said "moving there just kills you" and added people "drank themselves silly".[/i news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 688460.stm There is a list of the Worlds most liveable cities published every year. Several Australian Cities make this list each year and are often close to the top, four feature in the top 10 this year with Melbourne being number 1 I have not seen Leeds, Wigan or Hull and others feature lately. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_mo ... ble_cities Sydney / Melbourne or Hull / Bradford? unless your Leon Pryce of course or members of this board. By the way Chris Australia does not have much in the way of accents only some speech styles.