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| Quote ="asterix"Millions, Cap or not Rich, SOC would have invested 300k in 1st team alone if the criteria was promotion and relegation (Which it should be in my book) but as you said he has run 5 teams since 2008 application and done everything the RFL have asked and that includes the famous "ticking of the box" in our NR Cup win at the 1st possible chance of doing so. I personally think if Leigh have true asperations of SL next time around they will also follow WV lead and allow a dip in 1st team form to compensate fulfilling other criteria in Academys/U15s/U16s/off field criteria. Halifax need to re tick that box (ie win something) and then get there youth set ups going again. IMO 300k wont run a totally succesful club as in a all winning 1st team AND youth etc'"
I don't think you understand the way the Salary Cap works , it is 1 st team relevant only , Widnes will have spent up to the max for the last 2/3 years , just as other clubs have , unfortunatley poor recruitment , both in players and coaching staff has resulted in a couple if poor seasons , it happens , because of the licencing system it doesn't matter , you are the best Championship ' Club ' , and are the only club in the Championships that is anywhere near strong enough to move up to SL
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"It was a nonsense question designed to provoke anger rather than thought.
So I reiterate. Shut up you tart!'"
I agree,I think Damo was looking for it big time.
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| Anyway I am made up Widnes are back in SL,cracking club with good fans,I also shout for them as they have always been my second team due to their excellent team of the 80's.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"It was a nonsense question designed to provoke anger rather than thought.
So I reiterate. Shut up you tart!'"
I refuse to be silenced until I can clear my name and my innocence. At this rate it won’t be Guy Fawkes on the fires of Widnes come the fifth of November – It’ll be me. I’m just totally baffled by the uncalled for responses that have occurred on this thread towards myself.
You’ve twisted everything that I’ve said and for that you owe me an apology. I doubt one will be forthcoming though. But from the bottom of my heart I'm sorry to anyone who was offended by the questions put forward in this thread. Maybe I just went the wrong way about it.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I just went the wrong way about it.'"
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Chin up Damo
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| Quote ="Starbug"Good , we don't want you cwying on here over it
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I refuse to be silenced until I can clear my name and my innocence. At this rate it won’t be Guy Fawkes on the fires of Widnes come the fifth of November – It’ll be me. I’m just totally baffled by the uncalled for responses that have occurred on this thread towards myself.
You’ve twisted everything that I’ve said and for that you owe me an apology. I doubt one will be forthcoming though. But from the bottom of my heart I'm sorry to anyone who was offended by the questions put forward in this thread. Maybe I just went the wrong way about it.'"
You went fishing and hooked yourself.............Tart!
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| Quote ="Redchemic"You went fishing and hooked yourself.............Tart!'"
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| I will be the first to say performances wise no we dont deserve it but stadium, facilties,finances,acadamy and business plans wise yes we do. Were probably stronger than at least half teams in super league on that case.
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| Quote ="Redchemic"You went fishing and hooked yourself.............Tart!'"
Do you want to adopt him? We've had him for long enough on Southstander, it's time someone else had a go - give us some respite care.
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| Hmmm, I'll pass on that one Andy - reckon we're gonna have enough numpties visiting us in the coming months. Thanks anyway!
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| Looks to me like just another bitter Leeds fan who doesn't want us back whipping their s like we used to in the 80's............
We were by far the most qualified Club to be promoted. Believe it or not it's 2011, promotion and relegation by the old way has gone, deal with it.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I think that some (especially Widnes) fans miss the gist of my opening post. The title was asking a question rather than straight out saying that Widnes Vikings aren’t welcome. Plus I also wished the Widnes fans all the best for super league.
All this thread is doing is questioning a few things. Looks like I’ve got off to a bad start with a few people so let’s build bridges from hereon in. Some interesting points have been made and that’s what forums are for. Certainly not the slag fest that I’ve received!'"
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| Quote ="Eye of the viking"I will be the first to say performances wise no we dont deserve it but stadium, facilties,finances,acadamy and business plans wise yes we do. Were probably stronger than at least half teams in super league on that case.'"
I agree with this.
If it wasn’t for the sensationalist headline of this thread then I’m sure they would have been a more sensible debate. I hope that all this works out and the on field problems are sorted out within the allocated time you have got in super league.
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| It's nice to be loved
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| Quote ="J20"It's nice to be loved
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| Quote ="Starbug"How would you know ?
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| Can't wait to see them in the SL.
Made some great signings, got some good support and a nice little stadium too.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"Call me old fashioned but unless you finish top of the league promotion shouldn't be an option.
It just grates on fans of SL clubs who worked bloody hard to graft their way in.'" But, what's that worth? Any promoted team changes the majority of their 1st 17 in an effort to stay up and still struggle (often because the only free agents they can get have been released by the team they're replacing).
Whilst ability on the ptich in the 2nd tier is a factor to be considered, being realistic, it is not the be all and end all when considering all the factors that determine a clubs ability to contribute to Superleague.
Widnes have a ground that is currently hosting Superleague games. They're also getting a fancy dan iGrass pitch, or something like that.
Don't their youth teams compete favourably with their Superleague equivalents? Its a proven point that the most succesful teams are the ones that can promote from within.
Since their Chairman has taken over, hasn't he given them financial security? Is that through throwing money at them or stabilising them as a business?
I'm looking forward to having them back. Mainly because its an easy away game for me to get to.
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| Quote ="king warrior"Just like you lot Crusaders handed you a sl spot
Widnes should have been up 3 years ago i for one cant wait to play them'"
Damo and king warrior in the same thread?
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| What sort of crowds are you expecting Widnes to draw? I guess they are going to struggle on the field for first couple of years but is around 8,000 avg realistic?
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"What sort of crowds are you expecting Widnes to draw? I guess they are going to struggle on the field for first couple of years but is around 8,000 avg realistic?'"
i reckon they will get 5-6 kbut in a few years that could grow if they are successful on the pitch.
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