Another anti-Wigan thread on the VT? I'll try to hide my amazement

What is it with these quins fans?

If it wasn't for other clubs putting money in the pot you wouldn't be a club anymore

Bit unneeded mate, that's an entirely different discussion.

As for the OP: maybe you could try to seperate the criticism of the officials, which to be honest as the match I didn't really have a problem with; and the criticsim of Wigan, who can only play what is put in front of them, by the rules the officials apply. Pick one or the other to moan about, or it just comes across as, and probably is, pure bitterness.

And what saved you? Brian Noble or you would be in the league below.....

All the Wigan games seem very biased apart from the Quins game when we lost miserably, twice.... win fairly and no one would moan...

So we cheat EVERY game?

Tomkins over Slater and everyone else at the moment for me. Wigan are dull. Like Bradford were dull in the early noughties.

Tomkins: Love him when he plays for England, hate him when he plays for Wigan.


I don't know whether it's because of orders from the referee, a poor ability, or something else, but the linesmen are generally dire the past few seasons. The only time that you usually see them get involved is when there's been a brawl.

Sam Tomkins.

What a one dimensional player



BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Get stuffed. Bradford were completely outplayed. Wigan don't cheat, they use the rules to their advantage. If you think you can do a better job than the officials we have go on a course and see how you like it

Just accept it boys and girls. Second half tonight the whole Wigan team was sensational.

Not sure if you know this but the TJs speak to the ref right through the game using there communication kit. They do not use signals in the pro game because it saves the ref having to look and he can choose to overrule the input without a riot in the stands. It's actually really interesting to hear how much the TJs speak to the ref and the amount of input they give.

They also give input when a try has been scored hence why the ref looks to his TJs before giving a try.

BOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indeed, every now and again you can hear it on Sky where you can hear the TJ saying "so and so - offside right" or "offside, not involved" etc.
The only problem I have is the inconsistency with forward passes.

Quins fans. A club where they all know each other by name.

I love tomkins but nobody can touch billy the kid.

Tomkins is at this moment without a shadow of a doubt the best player in the world!

utter Bollocxs wait till the 4 nations he'll get eaten alive just like every other wannabe, the same in puffball too.

Btw there is no player in england thats BITW.

Look, not every player or every team is as sh[ii[/it as Hull KR. Even Leeds.

Tomkins is not the best player in the world. I hope he has the worst game of his life next week and then is raring to go for the 4 Nations. If he plays for England like he does for Wigan he'll give the Aussies something to think about.

He does not have the same service playing for England, they are poorly coached, so he won't look as good for them.

He is definantly them form player in world rugby. Over 20 tries in his last 12 games I think.

I don't think you can class any player playing in SL as the best player in the world unfortunately.

Better than Slater? Someday hopefully but not now.

And it seems the Wigan fans are already getting out the excuses if Tomkins fails for England. Surely if he's that good he'll shine even in a losing cause. He's got plenty of years to succeed anyway and for England i hope he does.

Just watch the four nations from last season. Tomkins was trying to link up round the back, he was getting into the positions but the backs were just not up to it.

This year he has had service from probably the two most experience half backs in super league in Deacon and Finch. He also has Centres like Carmont and Wingers like Richards to link up with. He just doesn't have that playing for England.

If he is going to shine for England I think it will have to be some individual effort.

I don't think Edwards would have looked all that great in this England team under this coach. Schofield would have looked poor as well. Those two players played in some of the best GB sides but Tomkins will play in one of the worst.

If McNamara has some sense he will train and coach the players to give service to Tomkins, Roby and Briscoe. They are our biggest hope of breaking through the aussies IMO. We MUST play deep and get Tomkins into space from FB and then from the QPTB he creates Roby can cause havoc.

No doubt the blind rugby fans will blame Tomkins if he struggles to break down an aussie defence on his own though.

So basically he's going to just not be THAT good.

I think Mcbanana knows Tomkins is the key to his backs. If he is a freak and a great talent then he really should be able to produce something, even if it's not consistent.

I'll just find it all a little underwhelming after tomkins this year has been hyped as world class etc etc..

And Edwards was =#FFFFFFat Bradford.

Definantly poop.

The most decorated RL player of all time....

9 Challenge cup winners medals
3 WCC medals
7/8? championship medals

Captained Wigan to countless trophies.

Yeh he was poop.

I know, he's nothing like Slater, his @r5e doesn't fall out in big games. And he doesn't look like Dean Saunders.



Absolutelty bang on. This Wigan team are brilliantly coached to lean on the rules and create space for the most exciting back England have produced in a long time. The Quins fans that for some reason have a grudge against him and the Saints fans just have to concede that the humbles are the best team at the moment, and that's hard for a Leyther to say. We can all moan about lying on and Wigans tactics, but our own teams arn't exactly angels either.

And where have I slated Wigan?

The standard of refereeing isn't keeping up with the standard of the game.