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| Quote ="Fully"Don't know personally. How many does the Racecourse hold?'"
According to Wikipedia (Not the most reliable source) 15,500 but I don't know whether that includes the standing end which is closed due to safety.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"According to Wikipedia (Not the most reliable source) 15,500 but I don't know whether that includes the standing end which is closed due to safety.'"
3055 seems reasonable on that basis then.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"According to Wikipedia (Not the most reliable source) 15,500 but I don't know whether that includes the standing end which is closed due to safety.'"
The 15500 apparently does not include the standing area.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Just over =#FF0000100 which is poor I admit but we are averaging well over 6000 for our home games this season compared to Crusaders who are averaging well below that and lets be honest their attendance figures are not always an accurate reflection on how many people are actually at the game.'"
It was less than half of that. I bet Crusaders bring more at the end of the season.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Looks like 1000 at the most and at least a third of that is from Castleford.
They are a joke of a club that the people of Wales do not want to go and watch.
If anybody can honestly say that they deserve a licence ahead of Wakey or Cas then they must be bonkers.'"
It's been said many times. 'Clubs' like Quins and Crusaders are only in SL because the powers that be are hell bent on expanding the game outside of the traditional RL playing area.
Sadly their crowds could total 5 and the RFL wouldn't worry.
They are 2 farcical clubs who shouldnt be allowed to be in SL but they are and all we can do is go along with it until they both go bust so many times the RFL wont bail them out anymore.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"It was less than half of that. I bet Crusaders bring more at the end of the season.'"
102 was the official number apparently.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"102 was the official number apparently.'"
Official number from where? What is your source?
Its wrong wherever its from.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"It was less than half of that. I bet Crusaders bring more at the end of the season.'"
No it wasn't. Just over 100.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"The 15500 apparently does not include the standing area.'"
Actually that figure does include the standing area. Without the standing area the capacity is 10k. Hence the sell-out crowd for the first super league game in 2010 against Leeds.
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| Quote ="MattyB"No it wasn't. Just over 100.'"
Pretty sure I have seen more than that and then see it announced as less than 100!
Some of them must have moved stands because it certainly didn't look that many!
Odemwingie is only satisfied with a sell-out, you know this Matty!
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| Tbh i think i will enjoy watching wakey more in the lower division, that said we deserve our place in sl if we dont finish bottom. anyone whos played the game at any level know deep down that rugby league is about what happens on the field an not off it which sadly no longer seems to be the case in this once great sport.
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| Quote ="StanTHEWildcat"Tbh i think i will enjoy watching wakey more in the lower division, that said we deserve our place in sl if we dont finish bottom. anyone whos played the game at any level know deep down that rugby league is about what happens on the field an not off it which sadly no longer seems to be the case in this once great sport.'"
Unfortunately in this era it's not all down to on-field performance. Shame.
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| Quote ="Fully"3055 seems reasonable on that basis then.'" The crowd announced seemed accurate from the TV. The fact that people are claming otherwise is pretty embarrassing TBH.
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| Quote ="headhunter"The crowd announced seemed accurate from the TV. The fact that people are claming otherwise is pretty embarrassing TBH.'"
Seemed accurate to me, and they made plenty of enthusiastic noise. If Crusaders can grow their crowds by a few percent a year they're on the right track.
Quote ="MattyB"No it wasn't. Just over 100.'"
True story: I started counting them at one point and got to about 40 before getting bored, even during such a dull second half. I was almost half way through so just over 100 sounds right to me.
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| Quote ="Cronus"Seemed accurate to me, and they made plenty of enthusiastic noise. If Crusaders can grow their crowds by a few percent a year they're on the right track.'" They're not on the right track by any means, the administration of the club is still very poor and I feel they won't really progress on the field while Iestyn Harris is the coach. However, credit to the local fans who are extremely enthusiastic and have taken really well to RL.
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| Quote ="Fully"3055 seems reasonable on that basis then.'"
Especially as the OP says Cas took no more than 300.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"They are 2 farcical clubs who shouldnt be allowed to be in SL but they are and all we can do is go along with it until they both go bust so many times the RFL wont bail them out anymore.'"
you're not gonna catch much with that bait PHIPPS
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| If from last nights crowd 2000 are crusaders fans then the most important thing to realise is that they are NEW fans. It is an example of how to go on. most of our traditional clubs would love to find 2000 new fans. most are way down on what we had in our best times.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Pretty sure I have seen more than that and then see it announced as less than 100!
Some of them must have moved stands because it certainly didn't look that many!
Odemwingie is only satisfied with a sell-out, you know this Matty!
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So thats a "sorry i'm wrong again" then is it.
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| Quote ="Beverley red"If from last nights crowd 2000 are crusaders fans then the most important thing to realise is that they are NEW fans. It is an example of how to go on. most of our traditional clubs would love to find 2000 new fans. most are way down on what we had in our best times.'"
At least 2500 hardcore Crusaders fans - the most enthusiastic, loyal fans any team could wish for and on the back of a very poor season. Always sing and cheer the team to the end whatever the result or performance. The desire and passion for rugby league to be a success in these parts is fantastic to witness.
Next season, with new signings and hopefully a winning team, and the rapid development of the game at grass roots in South and North Wales, the potential for growth is enormous.
Proud to be a Crusaders supporter.
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| The amount of people in the crowd isnt really the only part of the application process is it?
Either way as long as they are both given the same chance of a licence then thats ok with me
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| The embrassing thing about this is amount of threads by wakefield fans who blame anyone and everyone apart from Wakefield Trinity who have failed to deliver on promises set out 3 years ago. They were lucky not be ditched then.
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| Quote ="crusading leyther"At least 2500 hardcore Crusaders fans - the most enthusiastic, loyal fans any team could wish for and on the back of a very poor season. Always sing and cheer the team to the end whatever the result or performance. The desire and passion for rugby league to be a success in these parts is fantastic to witness.
Next season, with new signings and hopefully a winning team, and the rapid development of the game at grass roots in South and North Wales, the potential for growth is enormous.
Proud to be a Crusaders supporter.'"
Whilst I don’t disagree with your sentiments, there is one huge flaw.
How on earth can any club in Super Dooper League club survive on such low crowds?
Surely, to break even, a club would have to pull in around 7K to balance the books each season.
Who pray tell is going to pick up the tab? The London project must have the most benevolent Sugar Daddy in the game, fair play to him, however, for all the undoubted passion of a couple of thousand ‘new’ fans, where will the Crusaders find the shortfall?
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"It's been said many times. 'Clubs' like Quins and Crusaders are only in SL because the powers that be are hell bent on expanding the game outside of the traditional RL playing area.
Sadly their crowds could total 5 and the RFL wouldn't worry.
They are 2 farcical clubs who shouldnt be allowed to be in SL but they are and all we can do is go along with it until they both go bust so many times the RFL wont bail them out anymore.'"
How many times does it have to be stated that the RFL have NEVER contributed cash to the Lonodn club, from the earliest days of Fulham right up to today. And how many times do we have to point out that their crowds, although undoubtedly poor, are not so far behind those of so-called 'heartland' clubs like Salford ( even today ) and Huddersfield a few years ago ( before the Giants became a force ).
I assume you think that Salford are a 'farcical club who shouldnt be allowed to be in SL' ?
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"How many times does it have to be stated that the RFL have NEVER contributed cash to the Lonodn club, from the earliest days of Fulham right up to today. And how many times do we have to point out that their crowds, although undoubtedly poor, are not so far behind those of so-called 'heartland' clubs like Salford ( even today ) and Huddersfield a few years ago ( before the Giants became a force ).
I assume you think that Salford are a 'farcical club who shouldnt be allowed to be in SL' ?'"
I'm pretty sure I remember London Broncos being awarded a tidy sum of around £1million by the RFL when they played at Brentford, in order to stave off liquidation? Weren't the other clubs asked to waive some of their SKY money to help bail out the club?
If I'm wrong, then apologies.
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