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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Not to people who arent familiar with the game, who are the people they are likely to be advertising to during Emmerdale.
If you didnt know Wakefield were a rugby league side playing in the super league which is the fully pro, top-tier of European Rugby League then you wouldnt know afterwards either.'"
But people are aware of sport in general, and if the advert entices them to find out more by visiting the website or giving the ticket hotline a call then I don't see the issue.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"But people are aware of sport in general, and if the advert entices them to find out more by visiting the website or giving the ticket hotline a call then I don't see the issue.'"
But you could get people finding out more by visiting the website in much easier and cheaper ways. I doubt anyone is going to ring the ticket hotline to find out who WTW are.
Whilst it is undoubtedly a good thing to see clubs do this sort of promotion, it seems quite ridiculous that a broad marketing campaign like this fails to address basic points like who are you? what do you do? and why should i care?
Especially in an advert that is only going to be shown once.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"But you could get people finding out more by visiting the website in much easier and cheaper ways. I doubt anyone is going to ring the ticket hotline to find out who WTW are.
Whilst it is undoubtedly a good thing to see clubs do this sort of promotion, it seems quite ridiculous that a broad marketing campaign like this fails to address basic points like who are you? what do you do? and why should i care?
Especially in an advert that is only going to be shown once.'"
Do you really need to have an opinion on this, especially such a pedantic one. It's obvious what the ad is for, don't be such a pedant. We are not trying to attract people who don't know what RL is or who Trinity are, we are attempting to remind folk who are perhaps lapsed that we are still here.
I can't believe anyone could be so petty as not to realise that.
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| Good advert, not the best in the world but it's fantastic that potential millions of people will see this.
P.S. a quick google search on the clubs name should sort out your HUGEEEE problem smokey. Good work by Mr Glover
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| Quote ="vastman"Do you really need to have an opinion on this, especially such a pedantic one. It's obvious what the ad is for, don't be such a pedant. We are not trying to attract people who don't know what RL is or who Trinity are, we are attempting to remind folk who are perhaps lapsed that we are still here.
I can't believe anyone could be so petty as not to realise that.'"
If it really is simply to remind people you exist. Its a very expensive way of doing so.
You may wish to defend everything which comes out of your club as your misplaced view of supporting them, but thankfully we arent all cursed with your idiot blinkers.
In your impotent rage you may have also missed that this is a thread for people to discuss the marketing of the game, what they like what they dont like, what works, what doesnt, what we should try, what we shouldnt. Not as you may have lets all bow at the feet of Wakefield now they have done something pro-active in marketing themselves for the first time in a million years.
It is good that Wakefield are doing this sort of thing (i have already said that but maybe you missed it), More clubs should do this type of thing. It is however a big mistake not to mention the sport or the competition they are playing in when trying to advertise Wakefield, because not doing that excludes many many many more people than it could ever hope to include. And it would ridiculously easy to say "This Sunday the Wakefield Trinity Wildcats clash with the Leeds Rhinos in The Super League, Europe's premier Rugby League Competition".
Hopefully Mr Glover will learn what works and what doesnt from this campaign to improve it in the future and he hasnt taken the Vastman approach of just pretending everything is wonderful and the campaign is 100% correct on first go.
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| Quote ="TFC"Good advert, not the best in the world but it's fantastic that potential millions of people will see this.'" That is certainly true
Quote P.S. a quick google search on the clubs name should sort out your HUGEEEE problem smokey. Good work by Mr Glover
'" and how many people do you think will bother to google the clubs name compared to how many just wouldnt bother? Surely it would be simpler to just tell them who they are rather than expecting people to go and find out for themselves.
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| i dont think the idea was to promote the sport in general or the competition as neither of these are mr glovers responsibility.
most people will see the ad and not give it a second thought (pretty much like all the other adverts on tv)
however it may provoke some locals (who undoubtedly would know who both teams were) into going along, who may otherwise not know the game was even being played.
good positive marketing idea.
the RFL could learn a thing or two from it
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"I thought when Sl first began we were moving into a new era. Anyone remember the mostly naked players (? Eagles hooker?) on national billboards, s.'"
Paul Rowley ( Halifax player ) , The ' Beef on the bone ' adverts
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| Smokey TA clearly doesn't realise the facts about market segmentation and that a target market has clearly been chosen.
Great effort from Wakefield.
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Keith Mason did this for the launch of the Giants 2011 kit.
This was during the colouring in:
plixi.com/p/62952262
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Keith Mason did this for the launch of the Giants 2011 kit.
This was during the colouring in:
plixi.com/p/62952262
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"If it really is simply to remind people you exist. Its a very expensive way of doing so.
You may wish to defend everything which comes out of your club as your misplaced view of supporting them, but thankfully we arent all cursed with your idiot blinkers.
In your impotent rage you may have also missed that this is a thread for people to discuss the marketing of the game, what they like what they dont like, what works, what doesnt, what we should try, what we shouldnt. Not as you may have lets all bow at the feet of Wakefield now they have done something pro-active in marketing themselves for the first time in a million years.
It is good that Wakefield are doing this sort of thing (i have already said that but maybe you missed it), More clubs should do this type of thing. It is however a big mistake not to mention the sport or the competition they are playing in when trying to advertise Wakefield, because not doing that excludes many many many more people than it could ever hope to include. And it would ridiculously easy to say "This Sunday the Wakefield Trinity Wildcats clash with the Leeds Rhinos in The Super League, Europe's premier Rugby League Competition".
Hopefully Mr Glover will learn what works and what doesnt from this campaign to improve it in the future and he hasnt taken the Vastman approach of just pretending everything is wonderful and the campaign is 100% correct on first go.'"
What a load of claptrap, a pathetic attempt to dig yourself out of a hole all of your own making. Just for once man up and back down and stop being so petty - a forlorn hope. You're not attempting to discuss, you're a lonely person with nothing better to do, please don't insult us by dressing it up any other way.
The sheer hypocricy is breathtaking. Here is a poster that preaches the virtues of expanding the game knocking the efforts of a club attempting to do just that at no cost to the wider RL world for a change. To knit pick about it is beyond the pale and churlish in the extreme - the act of a petulant small child. My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.
If Leeds or anyone else had of made that effort I'd have applauded them in the way I used to applaud Bradford for dragging SL into the modern era. However giving credit or at least zipping it appears way beyond you - I feel sorry for you.
Please no long winded explanations as to the semantics of it all, just shut up and let Andrew Glover have his moment it's not all about you - there's a good fella
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| This coupled with the fine community work done by trinity is sends a clear message that the new regime at Wakefield Trinity is VERY serious about running a professional and ground breaking rugby league club.
Already the new regime has made massive strides in improving all aspects of the management of the club... I thought the change of ownership might have come too late for Trinity ... now I am beginning to wonder....
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"Smokey TA clearly doesn't realise the facts about market segmentation and that a target market has clearly been chosen.
Great effort from Wakefield.'"
That market being people who already know of WTW, already know of Rugby League and Super League, know of the rivalry with Leeds Rhinos, would recognise the game and the team from the action shots shown and who watch emmerdale, ignoring everyone else.
Seems a very specific segment and a very targeted market to use such a broad medium.
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| Quote ="vastman"What a load of claptrap, a pathetic attempt to dig yourself out of a hole all of your own making. Just for once man up and back down and stop being so petty - a forlorn hope. You're not attempting to discuss, you're a lonely person with nothing better to do, please don't insult us by dressing it up any other way.
The sheer hypocricy is breathtaking. Here is a poster that preaches the virtues of expanding the game knocking the efforts of a club attempting to do just that at no cost to the wider RL world for a change. To knit pick about it is beyond the pale and churlish in the extreme - the act of a petulant small child. '" Im not nit-picking nor knocking the efforts of a club attempting to expand the game (something you have previously argued they werent doing saying they were only attempting to reach 'lapsed' fans, something which any idiot can see they arent looking to do, they are trying to expand the game and reach new fans) I have said three times now that it is a good thing that Wakefield are trying to do. I just think they could have done it a lot better with a few minor tweaks and have commented so. You then got your panties in a twist about it.
Quote My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.
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Quote If Leeds or anyone else had of made that effort I'd have applauded them in the way I used to applaud Bradford for dragging SL into the modern era. However giving credit or at least zipping it appears way beyond you - I feel sorry for you.'" I Have applauded them for it. This will be the fourth time now. But your idiot blinkers do stop you from seeing it.
Well done Wakefield for this idea, it is a good one.
Quote Please no long winded explanations as to the semantics of it all, just shut up and let Andrew Glover have his moment it's not all about you - there's a good fella
'" Im sure Andrew Glover doesnt really care. Im sure he doesnt look at this as 'his moment'. If he does then who cares.
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| Cadbury's flake
"only the crumbliest flakiest chocolate etc...."
Woman sits in bath and eats said chocolate seductively
Voiceover:
"For anyone in any doubt, this is a chocolate bar - it's no good for those among you suffering from diabetise and may rot your teeth if you still have any. If you currently eat mars bars, why not give our flake a go - you never know you might like it. If you haven't had a flake for a while, why not try it again, after all you might like it! and chocolate in general, if you're a crisp person then give chocolate a go, YOU MIGHT LIKE IT!"
A bit wordy I know, but maybe some people need all that before they get the message that they might like it
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| Quote ="benny the ball"Cadbury's flake
"only the crumbliest flakiest chocolate etc...."
Woman sits in bath and eats said chocolate seductively
Voiceover:
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A bit wordy I know, but maybe some people need all that before they get the message that they might like it
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considering it does say 'only the crumbliest flakiest chocolate tastes like chocolate never tasted before' its probably not the best example you could choose. It does explain it is crumbly, flaky chocolate.
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| I thought the Bon Jovi tune was the wrong song choice. I dont know why the NRL didnt get something more banging on there. Hard drums. Should of got a real banging Hip Hop tune on there.
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| Quote ="liger1994"I thought the Bon Jovi tune was the wrong song choice. I dont know why the NRL didnt get something more banging on there. Hard drums. Should of got a real banging Hip Hop tune on there.'"
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| Examples of.....
Money well spent.....NOT
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy57yG4IALQ[/url
Money well spent.....YES
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZx7dxz2CUU[/url
NO MONEY...BUT VERY CLEVER....I'll say!
[urlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12K-qXPu-rM[/url
there is no formula for getting it right...but Quins viral was always going to be a flop........learn to walk before you waste money on the "supposedly" clever stuff.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"ooooooooooh.
Are we allowed to post links to YouTube vids now??
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| Ive always wondered why we cant ask Simon Moran for a bit of help with this. Surely it would be for the good of the game if we could get a good advertising and marketing campaign, and he does concerts for some of the biggest in the world ... Wish he would pull some strings
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| Quote ="nickcat0"A classic schoolboy error ......... how could you know that there used to be a problem with linking to YouTube , unless of course, you used to be here a long time ago , possibly using another name ?'"
You have all been enjoying my knowledgeable posts on Rugby League on this forum for over a year now. In that time I've seen many Youtube links removed.
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| i also noticed on another thread you recently mentioned remembering how the widnes board went into meltdown when crusaders got the nod in the last round of franchise decisions. which was certainly before the 18th of feb 2010
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| Quote ="vikingsmurf"i also noticed on another thread you recently mentioned remembering how the widnes board went into meltdown when crusaders got the nod in the last round of franchise decisions. which was certainly before the 18th of feb 2010
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And thats where this forum is quite clever.
There is this remarkable option where you can search back through topics made many years ago and read all about them.
I was reading how some of the Crusaders were deported the other day.
From a post made in 2009.
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