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| Quote ="PHIPPS"Can't you see thats exactly the sort of response he is after?!
I'm sure you won't be the only one he has 'reeled in' with his comments.
I'm also sure that he will be forwarding a selection of the best emails recieved around his colleagues who will also be having a good giggle at the way people such as yourself responded to an article that was designed to attract negative comments.
If he is really switched on he will also be signing your email account up to every gay porno site he can find.
Hope your spam filter is a good one.'"
Oh absolutely I can see where he's coming from. A bit of a jape, get a few bites and lose your paper some of it's readers. Makes perfect sense.
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"Oh absolutely I can see where he's coming from. A bit of a jape, get a few bites and lose your paper some of it's readers. Makes perfect sense.'"
seriously Did you type that...re-read it and then press submit
yeah...I am sure SKY have lost the majority of their female subscribers (or at least the ones who know the offside rule) as a result of the recent japes about the female refs assistant
He jokes about ALL sports.........are you saying that because he had a pop at a NRC game that League Supporters all over the country should stop buying his paper........what about the Tennis fans...should they stop buying it because he had a go at them too.........grow some skin FFS.....it was a joke...a shi7 one, but still a joke
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Catholic Church....revelations.....I see what you did there...clever
Seriously........Marc Padgett tries to write funny stuff....the fact that he fails doesn't warrant a thread on the VT. As for Older people getting younger people to do all the work.......that is not a relevation either.....just a fact of life. I think that's why you'll find most SL club chairmen aren't 14yrs old
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You come up with some good points here.
First of all, most SL chairmen aren’t young people because the only young people that tend to be wealthy enough to run a sports club is someone who has inherited a lot of wealth. You’re not get many young people who have inherited wealth running super league clubs because rugby is mainly supported by the working classes. I’m assuming that most super league clubs are owned by people who come from similar backgrounds as those who support the game, but have got wealthy as they got older. So that’s that one cleared then.
Now onto journalism, Is it really fair that Marc Padgett gets the platform of one of the biggest newspapers in the country whilst everyone else has to make do with blogspot?
There’s probably better sports writers out there that are getting 2 to 3 reads whilst he gets thousands of people reading his despite it been garbage. It should be the best writers that write for these institutions and not those who just happen to know the right people. Like I said it’s a group of old timers at the top that won’t be moved until retirement no matter how bad their get.
To round this off, this article does warrant airtime on the virtual terrace because it has rugby league relevance in it. Yeah he might be trying to be funny, but the thing is he doesn’t need to try any harder because his position is safe as long as he’s drinking tea with the paymasters at the independent.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"You come up with some good points here. '"
I know...but thanks anyway
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"First of all, most SL chairmen aren’t young people because the only young people that tend to be wealthy enough to run a sports club is someone who has inherited a lot of wealth. '"
No....I admit that some wealth takes time and some is inherited...but there is also another group of younger millionaires who have earnt their wealth. Then of course there are the drug barons who run entire estates...these captains of industry are not usually old......they don't get a chance to get old
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"You’re not get many young people who have inherited wealth running super league clubs because rugby is mainly supported by the working classes.'"
so.....even if a working class man makes good........he dies, leaves his 20 yr old son billions....RL will miss out because the son has become middle class......we may as well up sticks now
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I’m assuming that most super league clubs are owned by people who come from similar backgrounds as those who support the game, but have got wealthy as they got older.'"
Please explain how they could of got wealthy as they got YOUNGER ( in fact don't...that's a whole other thread entirely)
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"So that’s that one cleared then. '" ....maybe for you.....
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Now onto journalism, Is it really fair that Marc Padgett gets the platform of one of the biggest newspapers in the country whilst everyone else has to make do with blogspot? '"
Yes..it's perk of his job. Envy is not a valid excuse to have a go at someone....
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"There’s probably better sports writers out there that are getting 2 to 3 reads whilst he gets thousands of people reading his despite it been garbage. '" ...you are steering away from percieved facts into subjection here....
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"It should be the best writers that write for these institutions and not those who just happen to know the right people. Like I said it’s a group of old timers at the top that won’t be moved until retirement no matter how bad their get. '" ....now knee deep in subjection
Quote ="Damo-Leeds"To round this off, this article does warrant airtime on the virtual terrace because it has rugby league relevance in it. Yeah he might be trying to be funny, but the thing is he doesn’t need to try any harder because his position is safe as long as he’s drinking tea with the paymasters at the independent.'" ...drowning in subjectiveness now...
I have never agreed with the author dammo-leeds...I purely pointed out how petty some RL fans are......it was a joke for gods sake......get over it.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"So.....even if a working class man makes good........he dies, leaves his 20 yr old son billions....RL will miss out because the son has become middle class......we may as well up sticks now '"
Please find me one person who has inherited billions at 20 years old and is a chairman of a super league club. You accuse some rugby league fans of been petty, but you’ve probably just used the pettiest and most unrealistic example on this thread.
I’d like to think that I’ve conducted myself well on this thread, whilst you’ve done everything in your power to make a mockery of what I’ve wrote and with what – a 20 year old billionaire chairman that doesn’t come close to existing in super league.
Quote No....I admit that some wealth takes time and some is inherited...but there is also another group of younger millionaires who have earnt their wealth. Then of course there are the drug barons who run entire estates...these captains of industry are not usually old......they don't get a chance to get old
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And where are these drug barons in super league and sports journalism?
Yes they might be drug barons that may supply drugs to players, but this isn’t the point and is just a tangent of yours to divert the point that I’m making.
Where are these Younger millionaires in super league and sports journalism?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t these younger millionaires, millionaires because they wanted to make that kind of money? There certainly aren’t millionaires because they’ve done sports journalism and become super league chairmen.
You know what I’m talking about, but you just carry on going on in a tangent in a lame attempt to divert the general point that I’m making.
Quote I have never agreed with the author dammo-leeds...I purely pointed out how petty some RL fans are......it was a joke for gods sake......get over it.
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If anything is the joke here, then it’s you for bringing in the 20 year old billionaire. I acknowledge that we’ve probably taken each other’s points out of context just to argue our points. However I still stick to what I originally said about Marc Padgett and the sports journalism industry and others like it. You’ll probably never agree with me, but messenger boards wasn’t made for people to have the same agreements.
Yes, I acknowledge that this was a joke by Marc Padgett, but there are some people who are passionate about rugby league and we want our sport presented better in the media. If you think that is petty then that is your choice. But we think that Marc Padgett is petty for publishing dribble like that on shall we let’s say one of the better platforms in this country to air your opinions on to a crowd.
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| can't we all agree that it was a just piece of wind-up,p**s poor journalism,very tongue in cheek,trying to make himself look clever and not go off onto tangents about the Catholic church & 14 year old billionaires and drug barons etc ?
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| Let's not be over senstitive here............the forum has gone all 'PMT'.
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| Quote ="Big Ask"Let's not be over senstitive here............the forum has gone all 'PMT'.'"
...OK then...explain the off-side rule...go on...
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| Quote ="Big Ask"Let's not be over senstitive here............the forum has gone all 'PMT'.'"
you mean Padgetts Moronic Trash ?
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"
Now onto journalism, Is it really fair that Marc Padgett gets the platform of one of the biggest newspapers in the country whilst everyone else has to make do with blogspot?
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Is it fair that a sports journalist has a job in journalism, and people who aren't journalists and don't have a job in journalism, have to make do with amateursville self-publishing (note: some blogs are very good and very well written, but it's still amateur publishing).?
Yes.
In exactly the same way that it's fair that a bricklayer has a job bricklaying and everyone else has to make do with DIY.
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Is it fair that a sports journalist has a job in journalism, and people who aren't journalists and don't have a job in journalism, have to make do with amateursville self-publishing (note: some blogs are very good and very well written, but it's still amateur publishing).?
Yes.
In exactly the same way that it's fair that a bricklayer has a job bricklaying and everyone else has to make do with DIY.'"
as long as you don't end up with a cowboy builder !
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Is it fair that a sports journalist has a job in journalism, and people who aren't journalists and don't have a job in journalism, have to make do with amateursville self-publishing (note: some blogs are very good and very well written, but it's still amateur publishing).?
Yes.
In exactly the same way that it's fair that a bricklayer has a job bricklaying and everyone else has to make do with DIY.'"
Maybe Mr Padgett should stick to journalism , and stop trying to be a comedian
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| Quote ="gutterfax"...OK then...explain the off-side rule...go on...
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A player is offside if he's nearer to the oppositions goal line than both the ball and the 2nd to last opponent, except for if he's in his own half, or from a goal kick, corner or throw-in or if he's not interfering with play.
Job's a good un.
Not that women would understand it though, too much shopping and Loose Women to be concerned about.
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The posts are flooding in in response to the article on the Independent website - I hope something gets done.
If anybody feels like dropping him an email, you can do at: m.padget@independent.co.uk
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The posts are flooding in in response to the article on the Independent website - I hope something gets done.
If anybody feels like dropping him an email, you can do at: m.padget@independent.co.uk
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| At least it's not Stephen Jones doing it.....not yet anyway.
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Is it fair that a sports journalist has a job in journalism, and people who aren't journalists and don't have a job in journalism, have to make do with amateursville self-publishing (note: some blogs are very good and very well written, but it's still amateur publishing).?
Yes.
In exactly the same way that it's fair that a bricklayer has a job bricklaying and everyone else has to make do with DIY.'"
It is fair that a journalist has a job in journalism. However it isn’t fair how he abuses his position by writing amateur articles on a professional publication. Don’t we need professional articles for professional publication?
The point is, he’s become far too complacent and it’s this complacency that has allowed him to write the dribble that he writes. No one can deny how journalism has declined in recent times and it’s all thanks to the likes of Marc Padgett hanging around because of what he’s done in the past. His job is secured till retirement which is a good thing, but is it really fair?
Good journalism warrants professional publication.
Amateur journalism warrants amateur publication.
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Amateur journalism warranting a professional publication like in Marc Padgett’s case.
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Is it fair that a sports journalist has a job in journalism, and people who aren't journalists and don't have a job in journalism, have to make do with amateursville self-publishing (note: some blogs are very good and very well written, but it's still amateur publishing).?
Yes.
In exactly the same way that it's fair that a bricklayer has a job bricklaying and everyone else has to make do with DIY.'"
The difference being of course that most of us wouldn't consider ourselves qualified to build a wall and would therefore be happy to get someone skilled in to do it.
I suspect most of us could knock up an article of equal quality to those which appear under Padgett's name, but it wouldn't be seen by anything like the same number of people because we don't have his privileged position in terms of access to an audience.
Remind me again what qualifications you need to be a sports editor?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"...OK then...explain the off-side rule...go on...
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| I don't understand why any business reliant on selling to customers would want to alienate and insult a section of those customers. Seems a very strange marketing model to me!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"I don't understand why any business reliant on selling to customers would want to alienate and insult a section of those customers. Seems a very strange marketing model to me!'"
People will read the independent just because it’s the independent regardless of what content is published inside of it. I think it’s something you can call a bad habit you can’t get out of.
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Remind me again what qualifications you need to be a sports editor?'"
Mine were a BA Hons (magna cum laude) in politics …
(oh, and being in the right place when my boss decided to have 'a moment' on the stone and hand in his notice in a fit of pique)
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| Quote ="tb"(oh, and being in the right place when my boss decided to have 'a moment' on the stone and hand in his notice in a fit of pique)
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My overall point proven. I was nearly short listed for the comedy tent at Glastonbury last year because I was with someone who puts people forward for that kind of stuff. Right people, but with them at the wrong time of year. I still got to dance in the BBC Leeds Radio studios anyhow for consolation.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"My overall point proven. I was nearly short listed for the comedy tent at Glastonbury last year because I was with someone who puts people forward for that kind of stuff. Right people, but with them at the wrong time of year. I still got to dance in the BBC Leeds Radio studios anyhow for consolation.'"
That tent would have emptied faster than Headingley when the Whinos are losing by 12 points with 5 mins to go if that youtube video of your 'comedy' act you posted was anything to go by.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"That tent would have emptied faster than Headingley when the Whinos are losing by 12 points with 5 mins to go if that youtube video of your 'comedy' act you posted was anything to go by.'"
Look its Barry Mackenzie again folks!
It won’t be long before you start calling me Mike Reid.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Look its Barry Mackenzie again folks!
It won’t be long before you start calling me Mike Reid.'"
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