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| Here's mine, Tried to get one from every team, it's quite hard for some clubs.
Hodgson
Richards
Delaney
King
Monaghan
Dobson
Leului
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Leo-Latu
Mason
Fa'alongo
Solomona
O'Donnell
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| Quote ="Conorgiantsfan"Here's mine, Tried to get one from every team, it's quite hard for some clubs.
Hodgson
Richards
Delaney
King
Monaghan
Dobson
Leului
O'Meley
Leo-Latu
Mason
Fa'alongo
Solomona
O'Donnell
Patten
Sammut
Korkidas
Fitzgibbon'"
No-one from Saints in that team. You'd have the choice of:
Meli, Soliola, Perry, Puletua, Flannery.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Rubbish.
France couldnt keep up withthe pace. They've been given a chance but are clearly not ready yet. They'll still get a chance to EARN a game against the big teams like Wales have. You don't see comments by people saying they wouldn't blame Wales for jacking it off and going to play union because they don't play England every year. Or Tonga because they don't play Aus or NZ every year. It's rubbish.
England need tougher games until the other nations catch up. France and Wales need more pro players playing in the SL before they'll come anywhere near challenging England. Until then, it will always be a pointless walkover played in front of few fans, with little interest, at a tiny stadium with a 50+ point predicted hammering that does little for anyone.
France vs Wales will be a far better game for both teams. It will challenge both of them. The result won't be predictable. It's shown that it can draw a crowd in France and get media attention. It's a far better arrangement.'"
well said that man
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| Hodgson
Roberts
King
Monaghan
Richards
Chase
Dobson
Perry
Monaghan
O'Meely
Hoffman
O'Donnell
Fitzgibbon
subs
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Lima/Cross
Puletua
Leuluai
That would be a tough team to beat for England but a much better challenge then playing France. It's a tough call on the French though if we don't play them because they need to play better teams to enable them to improve aswell.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Rubbish.
France couldnt keep up withthe pace. They've been given a chance but are clearly not ready yet. They'll still get a chance to EARN a game against the big teams like Wales have.'"
England can't keep up with the pace of NZ or Australia. Should England stop playing them?
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| What about God himself? Beaver!!!! Steve Menzies
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| Dont think i'd be particularly bothered about this game, rather one of the lesser nations is given a chance.
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| Let's face it if smith coaches them they'll tonk us.
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| Quote ="pyeman"Dont think i'd be particularly bothered about this game, rather one of the lesser nations is given a chance.'"
a chance at what?? getting hammered by 50+?
at least playing this 'other nationalities' team theres a chance we could get beaten...and thats the whole point of playing them
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"a chance at what?? getting hammered by 50+?
at least playing this 'other nationalities' team theres a chance we could get beaten...and thats the whole point of playing them'"
And hopefully improve them at the same time, meaning the fixture has a point.
This all stars game is a pointless fixture.
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| the media in australia said that about state of origin in 1980
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Rubbish.
France couldnt keep up withthe pace. They've been given a chance but are clearly not ready yet. They'll still get a chance to EARN a game against the big teams like Wales have. You don't see comments by people saying they wouldn't blame Wales for jacking it off and going to play union because they don't play England every year. Or Tonga because they don't play Aus or NZ every year. It's rubbish.'" indeed what nation wouldnt be pleased, proud in fact, to get the chance to earn 3 internationals against the big teams once ever four years, oh and world cup too. Its a wonder governments dont give more money to our 2nd tier nationals when they get the chance to play England, NZ, and Australia twice every four years, but only one or possibly two of them. The rest cant, they can just be happy playing against each other.
Quote England need tougher games until the other nations catch up. France and Wales need more pro players playing in the SL before they'll come anywhere near challenging England. Until then, it will always be a pointless walkover played in front of few fans, with little interest, at a tiny stadium with a 50+ point predicted hammering that does little for anyone.'" how will they catch up if they arent allowed to play us?
Quote France vs Wales will be a far better game for both teams. It will challenge both of them. The result won't be predictable. It's shown that it can draw a crowd in France and get media attention. It's a far better arrangement.'" France lost their last competitive game against us 34-12 with an attendance of 11'529 in Doncaster. Something was building. Maybe right now it wasnt an Australia test for England, but who cares, France and Wales were benefiting.
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"the media in australia said that about state of origin in 1980'"
Indeed sometimes the media gets things right and sometimes they get them wrong.
I still see this game as pointless though, dont get me wrong its nice in 'fantasy rugby' kind of way but the week could either be used to play a lesser nation and improve them, thus benefitting the international game more, or be used as a week off mid season to make player burnout less likely at the end of the season, which would also help the international game.
Cant really see it drawing the crowds in either.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"indeed what nation wouldnt be pleased, proud in fact, to get the chance to earn 3 internationals against the big teams once ever four years, oh and world cup too. Its a wonder governments dont give more money to our 2nd tier nationals when they get the chance to play England, NZ, and Australia twice every four years, but only one or possibly two of them. The rest cant, they can just be happy playing against each other.
how will they catch up if they arent allowed to play us?
France lost their last competitive game against us 34-12 with an attendance of 11'529 in Doncaster. Something was building. Maybe right now it wasnt an Australia test for England, but who cares, France and Wales were benefiting.'"
increase the number of players in the SLE
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| This idea has in a way been tried recently though. GB played SL based NZ in 2006 at St Helens. I was there and there certainly seemed to be a decent turn out for it.
Playing an All Stars team certainly provides England with a sterner challenge than France and Wales. For those two nations to develop having those two nations play each other regularly would be better until they catch up to England's standards. Certainly a round robin between them and the Knights seems like the best idea to develop England and bring France and Wales on.
I would have thought the best idea for the England first team would be to have two teams, the Reds and Whites, loosely based on Lancashire and Yorkshire, play in a round robin with the All Stars. That way they're getting more game time, more players are playing at that level and there's more players with big game experience when it comes to full England selection.
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| Quote ="19 Leagues"Louis Anderson & David Solomona the best 2 overseas second rowers in Super League? Please tell me you've not thought this through properly
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At least back it up...who's better then?
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| Quote ="74'"At least back it up...who's better then?'"
Manu, puletua, morrison, lauititi, hauraki, elima imho of course its all subjective.
edit having said that solmona can win a game with a special play, but i think as all round players the above are better.
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| Quote ="74'"1. Brett Hodgson
2. Pat Richards
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4. Matt King
5. Joel Monaghan
6. Michael Dobson
7. Thomas Leului
8. Mark O'Meley
9. Michael Monaghan
10. Willie Mason
11. Louis Anderson
12. David Solomona
13. Craig Fitzgibbon'"
No club bias there then
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| Quote ="74'"At least back it up...who's better then?'"
Hoffman and o'donnell for a start.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"My point being that England will benefit from playing a game against the 'All Stars' as you would have to say the 2 sides would be of a similar ability whereas England v Wales Scotland France or Italy would just end up a one sided affair with little or no benefit to anyone.'"
The all stars would be as one sided as well as England get swamped!!!
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| good....we need a mid season challenge....cos hammering france by 60+ is doing nothing for us....or france for that matter
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| Quote ="Ant80"What about God himself? Beaver!!!! Steve Menzies'"
not a chance ! the Catalan chairman would never release him (or any others)
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"good....we need a mid season challenge....cos hammering france by 60+ is doing nothing for us....or france for that matter'"
We didnt hammer france by 60+ last time though did we? (or is my memory playing tricks?)
For me there was an improvement to france due to this game, they did seem to be getting more competative, but still in time honoured rl tradition we will dump the mid season international as it didnt work out straight away.
so england v anyonewithaforeignpassportthatfanciesago it is then
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| Squad: 25
Maximum from any 1 team = 3
Minimum from any 1 team = 1
Bradford - Kearney
Castleford - Chase
Catalans Dragons - Greenshields, Menzies
Harlequins - Randall
Huddersfield - O'Donell, Fa'alogo
Hull FC - Fitzgibbon, O'Meley
Hull KR - Dobson, Mason
Leeds - Cross, Webb, Buderus
Salford - Patten
St Helens - Perry, Puletua
Wakefield - Morrison
Warrington - King, Monaghan M, Monaghan J.
Wigan - Richards, Lima, Hoffman
Crusaders - Sammut
1. Webb
2. Greenshields
3. King
4. Monaghan J.
5. Richards
6. Chase
7. Dobson
8. O'Meley
9. Buderus
10. Cross
11. Hoffman
12. O'Donnell
13. Fitzgibbon (c)
14. Monaghan
15. Mason
16. Perry
17. Lima
Good luck England!
I for one would love to see that team take on England. It would be a brilliant contest!!
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| france & england both appear to be between a rock and a hard place but for different reasons
england is obviously too good for the french to make the game a real contest and france isn't good enough to compete at that level
french RL is improving under BG IMO (though I would prefer his back-room staff to be all french and cut out the 'jobs for the boys' ) but can never attain the heights of england level,not in my lifetime anyway - the occasional flukey result will happen but the difference in class is so obvious
It's up to france to sort themselves out with the likes of Wales etc and for england to somehow wangle annual matches with the top two
Maybe we should be more concerned about making the SL more competitive with less imports playing over the next five years and slowly encourage the english talent to come trough or,at least given the chance.
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