Fantastic

I feel sorry for the NRL, its clubs and their welfare and education departments who spend a lot of time, effort and money "educating" players on how to behave. Only to be let down again and again.




I was going to say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, but that would be inappropriate for this thread.

I agree with the first point to a large extent; but we are talking about young blokes (and a large sample of them from many varying backgrounds) of the ages say 16 (at the lower end of the range) through their 20s, to about 30 or just over at the top end (very few players over 30 have any issues other than maybe getting drunk in public occasionally - I'm not about to throw a stone so to speak about that one...we have all been there and done it at sometime when we were younger and sillier...)

Further for the sake of parity, it should be pointed out that the AFL has had a far worse year for these things than the NRL. Anyone thinking otherwise need go no further than the link at LU about the same thing which documents a litany of shockers for the AFL in 2010. The difference again with the two sports in this sense is the transparency in the rugby league media compared to the "bury it" attitude of the AFL media - contrast the alleged Collingwood post GF sexual assault, the investigation and reporting of which has gone very, very quiet, which in many ways seems to be mirroring the Milne/Montagna 2004 case in the AFL (which it was revealed this year involved interference in the police investigation from the St Kilda AFL club).

The stringing of incidents together though is largely a product of the media.

It is all about individuals in the public eye, because of their sport, making individual decisions (some of them influenced by alcohol and/or drugs). In some cases, like Monaghan's, remarkably stupid, abhorrent and dangerous ones. Dangerous in the sense that he placed his entire career and his family's livelihood at stake because he is sure to be sacked come Monday of this week (and likely de-registered by the NRL).

Just to add to that, the AFL media - and the general media here in Australia seems to take its lead from that (of course paid for advertising and editorial content then enters the picture, something the AFL has confirmed it has as part of its contracts) - tend to treat all of these incidents ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.

Only when they manifest in something as uniquely rotten as the culture at the West Coast Eagles AFL club, check that one out sometime, does a whole club get tarnished so to speak. And in that case absolutely rightly so, given a man's death was involved in the case of a just retired player (Mainwaring) and this was the club that produced and cultured Ben Cousins after all.

Still, they are all treated as individual cases by the media.

The "NRL scandals" so to speak, appear to have no such luxury. They all seem to be dealt with at the start of the TV/radio broadcast or newspaper/internet listing as "In another NRL scandal, such and such did this..." Over time, this has its effect on your average mug punter or even more so, the casual and detached observer relying on the odd soundbite for their viewpoint.

However, given the ratio of such incidents appears similar if not exceeded by the AFL, some measure of journalistic objectivity would suggest any such AFL scandal would be preceded by the same such introduction. Regrettably, it seems to be missing.

Check it out for yourself sometime...



Should be easy for you, JB.

These young blokes (and older ones) you refer to are being constantly educated by clubs and the NRL about behaviour. They have player welfare officers etc. etc. One such education session at the beginning of the year involved social media networks and the choice of "friends" on your pages.

You are very right about the media however. I mean, how often have you heard anything these days being referred to as "yet another NRL scandal" etc. etc. Melbourne with money, Friend at the Roosters, Brothels with Roosters players. etc. etc. They do make things sound epidemic, which they aren't, but there are a lot more incidents that never reach the media..... thankfully. Let he who is without sin talk about what you've named a "bury it" attitude in another sport. You are far too intelligent OD to be that naïve to think they don't.

I'm also not sure why you feel the need to use parity in your argument. Who cares what the AFL do? When others use any form of parity they are called trolls, BLTs or the incredibly offensive Vichys.

I know you'll get the jist Old Geezer.

So you agree with me but still want to have a chop after that 1988 SFS thing I took you up on... lol

I take it back, feather duster.

Thanks for the intelligence comments though.



The parity comment is in showing an accurate picture of the sporting media landscape in Australia to those who may not be familiar with it...including our many friends in other parts of the world. I am not sure there is a problem with that in any exercise in objectivity.

You being here is obnoxious now f u c k off.

Sad to see someone so smart, at times, so trivial.

Don't agree with all you say, as usual.

It's good to see that it will be OK for Gutterfax, JB and the like to post parity on here then based on your objectivity principle.

My objectivity principle...

lol

Let them use facts and I will deal with each of them as they arise. No problem with that.

When they don't, they can expect any rubbish to be taken out and dumped appropriately.

Most gracious of you memsaab

lol

Just read the chooky thread I set up for you.





PS. I am interested in your views of that game though. Seriously as GF would say.

I have no interest in your "look what I know about the NSWRL" self-promotion. TBH. So very unlikely to bother. Sorry.

You did take that "a small amount of knowledge comment" to heart.

Nice of you to read it though. No doubt you learnt something...





lol

oh dear, delusions of grandeur and diversions. Arrogance is having a go at people to hide their own insecurities. ooooo second half starting. See ya.

Small amount of knowledge suits you so well...





Enjoy...

Incredible how the likes of Old Darlin use behaviour in our sports to deflect from the disgusting behaviour of their sporting hereos!!

They would gain more respect if they simply accepted behaviour of this nature is unacceptable in a civilised society and not try and justify it by comparing to the actions of other.

It is like saying Peter Sutcliffe was OK because compared to Jeffery Dahmer is wasn't as bad.

Then they are Aussies from Sydney where what is seen as acceptable behaviour is somewhat warped to say the least!!!

its funny how threads like this drag in all the trolls

hey there many RU players thatve killed people, why not start a thread on that you lunatics

me, ive been laughing at this story all week.

probably ran out of sheep down in canberra

Yet another - must be something about the air in Sydney

but then looking at the quality of women in that town it is no surprise you consider sex with dogs the norm

truly mate you are a pimple on the backside of the game of RL.

At least I do go and watch the game live - a true supporter - pity you are unable to say the same



I will be watching one son this afternoon and the other tomorrow afternoon - that will more games seen live in one weekend than you have seen in the whole of 2010 - start supporting the game and you will be in a position to have a go at others - hypocrite would be the very least that could be levelled at you.

The fact you found someone engaging a sexual act with a dog funny says much about your moral code!!! but anyone who reads the crap you post would not be shocked in the least

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