i would'nt mind tony clubb getting a run out....if he was with a northern club i reckon he'd be a regular international...



and widdop has been playing for the melbourne storm reserve grade side in the NSW CUP

What bothers me is that the squad's about the best we can manage with the possible exception of Sinfield's omission, although he might have been left out because McNamara realises that Antipodean refs won't tolerate the way he mouths off all the time.

or its cos he's injured......maybe

Sinfield has an achilles injury. Just spoke to someone who was at the press conference, and they made a point of saying Sinfield would have been in the squad if fit...

I like how people moan about players who they dont think are good enough, yet we are taking a player from the Nrl who has played 3 games this season all in different positions now that people is the biggest joke!

Are Lynch and Scrutton not available? They are the best props in SL behind Graham and Morley.

I would go with:

1. Widdop
2. Goulding
3. Shenton
4. Atkins
5. Briscoe
6. S. Tomkins
7. Brown
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Morley
11. Burgess
12. Ellis
13. O'Loughlin

14. Lunt
15. Fielden
16. Crabtree
17. J. Tomkins

Id go:

Cudjoe
Goulding
Briscoe
Atkins
Hall
Brown
Tomkins
Morley
Lunt
Graham
Ellis
Burgess
O'Loughlin

Roby
Westwood
Crabtree
Griffin

He's an incumbent Test player, isn't he? From all reports, he was decent enough in his debut.

If he didn't have the best fullback in the world in front of him at club level, he would've played a lot more first-grade games by now.

Could we not go with Sam Tomkins at fullback and then 12 forwards?

No Paul Sykes in the squad?

Jon Sharp's prediction of Robinson and Brown as a future England half-back pairing comes true.

Hahaha

The thing is, Melb see him as a stand off. He lacks experience so is a big risk.

Regards props, Ideally I'd want tomkins and westwood in there with Burgess prop at the expense of Crabtree/Fielden

Regarding Widdop I only have 1 name to say... Kris Inu.

For me sam tomkins has to play 7 now, I do not understand why the form half back in the comp didnt go, paul deacon!

1. Widdop
2. Goudling
3. Shenton
4. J.Tomkins
5. Atkins
6. Brown
7. S.Tomkins
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Morley
11. Ellis
12. Burgess
13. O'Loughlin

14. Westwood
15. Robinson
16. Fielden
17. Crabtree

1. S.Tomkins
2. Briscoe
3. Atkins
4. Shenton
5. Hall

6. O'Loughlin
7. Brown

8. Morley (C)
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Westwood
12. Ellis
13. Burgess

14. J Tomkins
15. Crabtree
16. Fielden
17. Lunt

18. Cudjoe (Utility Back)
19. Robinson (Utility Half)
20. Harrison (Utility Forward)
21. Widdop (Backup Fullback/Standoff)
22. Goulding (Backup Threequarter)
23. Griffin (Backup Prop)
24. Clubb (What?) (Backup Centre/Second Row)

Probably the worst we have looked in the halves and in the front row for a while. Our backs are far superior to our old crop, probably miles behind whatever 2nd string lot from Aus/NZ still. Back Row for me is our sole strong point, hence trying to squeeze another in with O'Loughlin (as we won't have a kicking game out of any team we put out) at stand off for me. Grind out the games and pray that Stomkins grants us a few breaks.

Interesting how every Wigan poster as got all 5 of their players in the 17.

I think it should have been Tomkins/Deacon in the halves.

I also think that Lynch/Scruton should be in there instead of Crabtree.

Here's a nice stat about Tony Clubb for you (And Yes i did steal it off twitter)

Centre Tony Clubb this year missed 92 tackles,more than anyone.Senior,Gleeson and Yeaman combined missed 90.

Now that is Scary..........

Interesting how McBanana has left the form English centre out of the squad in favour of someone who hasn't stood out in a poor London team.

Widdop kicks goals im fairy sure

1. Widdop
2. Briscoe
3. Atkins
4. Shenton
5. Hall
6. Brown
7. S.Tomkins

8. Morley
9. Robinson
10. Graham
11. Westwood
12. Ellis
13. Burgess

14. Harrison
15. Crabtree
16. Griffin
17. Roby

Cudjoe
Lunt
J Tomkins
O'Loughlin
Goulding
Fielden
Clubb

6 players from the giants team, bet no one expected that .... well done giants shows how far we have come




out of the 6..

griffin - our best prop this season

robinson - had his best season for us, playing out of his skin, great tackler and commitment 2nd to none.

cudjoe - dont think he will get a game but will provide some speed in the backs if he plays

brown - gets slated by wigan fans etc but hes not the same player, very classy now

crabtree - mid season i wouldnt of picked him for england but improved back end of season and playoffs,
played himself back into contention and prob deserves another chance after having a great series last time.

lunt - not the best of seasons, been playing out of position in 2nd row though, (brough and robinson keeping him out) if he plays hooker will do a good job, speed and fitness levels excellant.