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| Bradford:
Rikki Sheriffe
Paul Sykes
Chris Nero
Stuart Reardon
Steve Menzies
Jamie Langley
Michael Worrincy (dont all rush at once)
Steve Crossley
I imagine Sheriffe, Sykes, Menzies & Langley will be retained (Or I hope we are at least trying). Nero might get another contract as he will come off Quota.
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| As far as I'm concerned Sherwin and Sarget have been VERY poor for Cas this year, they will be no loss.
Shenton we could do with keeping.
Owen - he has a major injury so can't see a club being prepared to offer big money, perhaps Cas will sign him on for next year to see how his rehab goes but any club would be taking a risk to offer him more.
Rumours suggest that Cas may be looking to Mathers should Owen leave or not recover and that Danny Orr may replace Sherwin.
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| Quote ="Dave K."To get this thread back on teack, instead of who is after pinching Cas best players.
Hull as far as I know have
Calderwood
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Manu
Tickle
Dowes
Radford
Cusack
Fitzgibbon
Out of contract, the ones in bold I would keep, maybe Calderwood depending on injuries and waht other British wingers are available.'"
would have him back at widnes like a shot.
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| Quote ="cadoo"For Wigan:
Phil Bailey
George Carmont
Andy Coley
Cameron Phelps
Stuart Fielden
Paul Prescott
Harrison Hansen
Karl Pryce
Mike McIlorum
Paul Deacon
Iafeta Paleaasina
Darrell Goulding'"
We must keep-
Hansen
Prescott
Goulding
McIlorum
and i'd probably keep on-
Phelps
Coley
Fielden(on a new reduced term deal)
and i'd release-
Pryce
Carmont(dependant on who's available as replacment)
Bailey
Paleaaesina
Deacon(again dependant on who's available to replace him)
That would mean 5 players leaving but i'd hope we'd only bring in 2 or 3 with the rest of the gaps being filled by our youngsters.
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| Quote ="chissitt"We will take Mitchell Sargent of your hands for you.'"
If rumours are to be believed Sarge is going back to Aus next season and will be giving up rugby league.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"We must keep-
Hansen
Prescott
Goulding
McIlorum
and i'd probably keep on-
Phelps
Coley
Fielden(on a new reduced term deal)
and i'd release-
Pryce
Carmont(dependant on who's available as replacment)
Bailey
Paleaaesina
[uDeacon(again dependant on who's available to replace him)[/u
That would mean 5 players leaving but i'd hope we'd only bring in 2 or 3 with the rest of the gaps being filled by our youngsters.'"
Deacon will not be released as such but next year is almost certain to cease being a player and become an assistant coach only. He is currently player/assistant coach with a view to only playing for this season.
I agree with the most of the rest of them although Phelps getting another year is dependant on the development of Josh Veivers and whether his quota place is needed in another position such as prop or halfback. If Veivers has developed sufficiently to act as Amos Roberts' understudy at FB then Phelps should be let go.
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| I can't keep track of all the rules etc, but aren't most clubs faced with ongoing reductions in the number of overseas players going forward? I assume that will impact some decisions - e.g. off-quota overseas players being retained when in the past they may not as any new player would be on quota etc?
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"I can't keep track of all the rules etc, but aren't most clubs faced with ongoing reductions in the number of overseas players going forward? I assume that will impact some decisions - e.g. off-quota overseas players being retained when in the past they may not as any new player would be on quota etc?'"
all clubs except for crusaders and catalans(I think) have to reduce to 5 overseas players, but they are some exceptions.
Willie Manu (Hull Fc) and Ben Fisher (Hull kr) are off quota due to residency rules (more then 4 years playing in uk I believe)
at hull we have to lose one which looks like cusack to retirement.
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| Quote ="Loyal Saint"I'd take Shenton and Richard Owen at Saints.
St Helens have....
Meli
Flannery
Fozzard
Gidley
Cunningham'"
We also have Wellens, Fa'asavalu, Hargreaves and Matty Smith off contract at the end of the year
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| Quote ="C-Stander"We also have Wellens, Fa'asavalu, Hargreaves and Matty Smith off contract at the end of the year'"
Wouldnt mind smith as sherwins replacement.
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| Quote ="chissitt"We will take Mitchell Sargent of your hands for you.'"
Deacon wouldn't be a bad shout for your lot.
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| Quote ="cadoo"Care to elaborate?'"
The kids had 3 ops, recoverys not gone as planned, fingers crossed he'll play again but there's a chance he might not.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Prescott...Coley...Fielden...Paleaaesina'" Your four props? That would be a concern, especially the way I've seen your pack improve over the past year or so. Realistically, unless your board pull some good moves out the bag, you'd weant to hold onto 3 of these 4.
I wouldn't mind seeing Prescott at Saints, or young Cooper from Warrington.
Saints need to bolster the front row with one good signing, as most fans have commented. Who they replace gidley with is probably the most important move after that. Shenton would be good - pace, good defender and still time to develop further.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Leeds
2. Scott Donald (2010) - Returning home IMO due to resigning of Lee Smith.
4. Keith Senior (2010) - already signed a new deal with us for another season, not annouced as of yet
9. Danny Buderus (2010) - will be returning home IMO replaced in FT squad by McShane.
12. Ali Lauitiiti (2010) - Game breaker and despite his leg worries if fit enough i would give him another season.
14. Matt Diskin (2010) - needs to be retained.
16. Ryan Bailey (2010) - heard links to Castleford once again, if true I would hope that we would look at LMS from Quins to replace him.
24. Luke Ambler (2010) - will be kept hold of, as he is a good quality youngster, just needs to lose the gut.
Simon Worrall (Toulouse Loan) (2010) - will be let go IMO'"
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| Quote ="Wadski"Deacon wouldn't be a bad shout for your lot.'"
Deacon won't be leaving Wigan (at least he will not leave to play elsewhere). He signed for Wigan as a way into coaching. He is currently a player/assistant coach for this year and is expected to retire from playing at the end of the season and will then be an assistant coach for the rest of his contract. I could only see him leaving if a better (from his point of view) coaching opportunity came his way.
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| Quote ="Frosties."
2. Scott Donald (2010) - Returning home IMO due to resigning of Lee Smith.
4. Keith Senior (2010) - already signed a new deal with us for another season, not annouced as of yet
9. Danny Buderus (2010) - will be returning home IMO replaced in FT squad by McShane.
12. Ali Lauitiiti (2010) - Game breaker and despite his leg worries if fit enough i would give him another season.
14. Matt Diskin (2010) - needs to be retained.
16. Ryan Bailey (2010) - heard links to Castleford once again, if true I would hope that we would look at LMS from Quins to replace him.
24. Luke Ambler (2010) - will be kept hold of, as he is a good quality youngster, just needs to lose the gut.
Simon Worrall (Toulouse Loan) (2010) - will be let go IMO'"
Would rather see us retain Buderus another year to help transition McShane into the full time 9 role and just let Diskin have his chance to 'star' at another SL team instead.
And sign LMS? No thanks...
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| so we are now missing this teams
- Catalans Dragons
- Crusaders Rugby League
- Hull Kingston Rovers
- Salford City Reds
- Wakefield Wildcats
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| I expect Fozzard, Gidley and Cunningham to all leave, probably the two loaned out players aswell, leaving the other four playing for contracts. Hargreaves should be kept on, Fa'asavalu probably will too as we are already short on forwards without releasing these two. Meli and Flannery are both decent players but I'd prefer to replace these from within and pick up another top forward.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"You could make a top 8 side out of the out of contract players.
1. Owen
2. Hall
3. Shenton
4. Whiting
5. Sharp
6. Dorn
7. Sherwin
8. Sargent
9. Houghton
10. Dowes
11. Tickle
12. Manu
13. Fitzgibbon
14. Radford
15. McCarthy-Scarsbrook
16. Wild
17. Coley
And thats without the OOC players at the better clubs like Saints, Warrington and Leeds.'"
my out of contract team would be:-
1. Paul Wellens
2. Scott Donald
3. Michael Shenton
4. Keith Senior
5. Francis Meli
6. Luke Dorn
7. Paul Deacon
8. Andy Coley
9. Kieron Cunningham
10. Iafeta Palea'asina
11. Harrison Hansen
12. Ali Lauitiiti
13. Craig Fitzgibbon
Subs:-
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15. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook
16. Mitchell Sargent
18. Steve Menzies
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| Just seen LMS is available. I reckon there'll be a few clubs after him.
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| Quote ="madtigerman"my out of contract team would be:-
1. Paul Wellens
2. Scott Donald
3. Michael Shenton
4. Keith Senior
5. Francis Meli
6. Luke Dorn
7. Paul Deacon - =#BF0000would have to be as player/asst coach as that is what he is at Wigan but unlikely to be playing anyway
8. Andy Coley
9. Kieron Cunningham
10. Iafeta Palea'asina
11. Harrison Hansen
12. Ali Lauitiiti
13. Craig Fitzgibbon
Subs:-
14. Matt Diskin
15. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook
16. Mitchell Sargent
18. Steve Menzies'"
At least 3 of that team are likely to retire at the end of this season (Deacon,Cunningham & Menzies) and Wellens and Senior can't be too far off doing either. You'd have to have a fantastic set of youngsters coming through in 2012 to fill all the holes in that squad even if all 17 were playing next year.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"
Wheeldon'"
How's he gto on for you since you signed him? He always impressed me when I saw him at FC (especially given his age), but I haven't heard much about him since he moved and can't recall seeing much of him.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"How's he gto on for you since you signed him? He always impressed me when I saw him at FC (especially given his age), but I haven't heard much about him since he moved and can't recall seeing much of him.'"
Average, not big enough, had a great first season at Hull, not done much since.
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