Here's another idea... why not try finding out the facts before posting stupid things like that? They've got young wingers like paddy flynn who are out injured. Gaskell is another winger who's unavailable for them.

Widnes, just like cas, needed ainscough because they DO have young wingers but they are injured.

Moron

Isn't Gaskell a Warrington product? and whens his ban up anyway

here is an idea,albeit a crazy one.why dont the RFL split the SKY tv money between the whole of rugby league then there will be no excuses for not producing youngsters.

I love it when the argument of Championship fans boils down to 'the RFL should be financing my club'.

Not sure about that he could be, I didn't say he was a widnes product I was just explaining to codarmysaint that the only reason widnes were 'depending' on Ainscough was due to injuries to other wingers and not because they don't have any of their own youngsters.

are you telling me there would be more than 5 clubs in SL producing there own players without SKY tv money, distributed by the RFL?

hmm yeh Gaskell came into the warrington team about 7 or 8 years ago but I'm not sure if he was homegrown or we poached him from somewhere

Quote ="Dico"hmm yeh Gaskell came into the warrington team about 7 or 8 years ago but I'm not sure if he was homegrown or we poached him from somewhere'" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Gaskell Looks like Wire picked him up at 18. Don't know which amateur team he played for.

Quote ="Dico"hmm yeh Gaskell came into the warrington team about 7 or 8 years ago but I'm not sure if he was homegrown or we poached him from somewhere'" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Gaskell Looks like Wire picked him up at 18. Don't know which amateur team he played for.

Fair enough. I can understand the frustrations of the Widnes supporters who feel aggrieved at the current situation.

However, looking at it from Wigan's point of view it makes perfect sense. Shaun Ainscough is, assuming he develops the way Maguire wants, going to be a Wigan first team player in the next year or two. If we can loan him out to a Championship side to get experience then great but if there is the opportunity to send him to a Super League side he will get greater experience, training, understanding of the game et al.

It benefits Shaun more and Wigan more. It f*cks Widnes over but that's there problem. Dog Eat Dog comes to mind.

Surely the point of the dual contract system is to develop plays by giving them a higher grade of "reserve" rugby? The reserve league isnt the best so this helps that.

It cant be in the players interest to chop and change like this? Two clubs systems is a challenge but worth it as the system would work. To then loan him to a 3rd party is a nonsense?

The system should stay as it is and for instance Cas should have players who they then dual contract with say Featherstone. Then when such an occurance happens they call players back from that club.

Yes, its good for Cas to call on a player of this quality, but surely not for Ainscough, not for Widnes and certainly not for the system.

RL has a habit of messing up its own good ideas!

well done cheshire tiger its just a pitty your surounded by people on here who've got no idea the damage decision like this are doing to the game.

you do realise that the only clubs who benefit from the fact the RFL distribute that money are the lower league and amateur clubs dont you?

they probably should release the players they cant afford to keep.

though its fairly obvious most young players on the dual contract system are loaned out to aid their development rather than save some money

guess you didnt,

it wasnt a surprise

What - just out of the goodness of their heart or for the benefit of the game AS A WHOLE? You do realize that lower leagues play Rugby League don't you? They even appear on BskyB on Thursday nights. In fact, in 15 minutes Leigh entertain Barrow. Go and have a looksie - see what plebs look like.

Are you saying that the SL clubs get no benefit whatsoever from SL funding?

No, he's saying that if it were up to SL clubs alone, lower leagues would get nothing.

I thought we did.

indeed, you have it one.

If SL clubs decided to keep all the income from their TV deal, and all the money from any international TV deal (which they could demand otherwise they wouldnt release their players) then there would be no income the RFL could realistically give to the lower leagues

the RFL would be able to distribute sport england funding to amateur clubs but they are restricted to doing this for lower league clubs.

you would be mistaken

Why don't they then? Because the RFL won't then let them play the sport under their auspices. They'd have to break away.

Why do lower league fans think that the lower leagues constitute the 'game as a whole', and that they should get preferential treatment despite being by far the least important part of the sporting pyramid (amateur, semi-pro, elite)?

What an arrogant t*at







Thank Christ your not in charge at Red Hall.

they did