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| Quote ="Dico"Don't gay people lack testosterone though? how'd he amass the muscle required??'"
Where the h-ll did you hear that from? Utter tosh.
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| Quote ="TonyM19"Absolutely not at all.
I can't see why a) this thread was started and b) why it hasn't been closed.'"
Gareth coming out is big news in union, why not ask the question - is it an issue in League. Clearly it's not a major issue, since enough posters think it's a non-issue, but it still is a subject of discussion as apparently "gay men lack testosterone and aren't made for our collision sport". I guess, conversely, Lesbians having extra testosterone would make them good league players ...
(Please ask a GCSE biology teacher to explain hormones)
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| Quote ="Dico"Nah, fair doos to him. Don't gay people lack testosterone though? how'd he amass the muscle required??'"
WTF?
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| Anyone else smell an autobiography on the way?
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| Quote ="Stooper"What does it matter if someone is gay or not, regardless of the sport they play or their profession in general?'"
It shouldn't. Nobody should feel they have to hide their sexuality but at the same time nobody should be expected to make a big thing about their sexuality and 'go public' either.
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| Quote ="EX.SALF.UNI"Anyone else smell an autobiography on the way?'"
It's already out & he didn't mention it at all. Maybe he had been tipped off that he was going to be outed by some scum journo & got in before them. Interesting to hear the guy from the gay rugby club on Radio 5 this morning saying that all the teams & county rfu members totally accepted them but the gay press where against them & played up to the stereotype that gay men don't like sport.
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| In which case what makes someone gay?
A lot of lesbians are chubby and look like fellas, most gays i've met are very feminine, didn't want to sound controversial i've just not come across many 'muscular' gay fellas. I put it down to a lack of testosterone, it's hardly something i've put a lot of research into
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| Didnt the RFL do some kind of promo with the charity Stonewall??? IIRC they did.
There is of course a problem with RL players who are gay feeling they could admit it. But no more than society in general.
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| Quote ="Dico"In which case what makes someone gay?
A lot of lesbians are chubby and look like fellas, most gays i've met are very feminine, didn't want to sound controversial i've just not come across many 'muscular' gay fellas. I put it down to a lack of testosterone, it's hardly something i've put a lot of research into'"
Have you been watching Brasseye?
=#0000FFSir Hugh Maharggs: "Homosexuals can't swim, they attract enemy radar, they attract sharks, they nudge people when they're trying to shoot, they always insist on sitting at "The Captain's Table"... they *muck about*. Imagine... the fear... when you go to sleep with a gay man on board and think "Oh God, when I wake up, will everyone be dead?" You can't run a ship like that...."
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| LOL
no. Many people have wrong assumptions, mine was obviously one of them. I aint the first and I wont be the last
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| Quote ="Dico"In which case what makes someone gay?'"
Being sexually attracted to a member of the same sex?
Or are you asking a more offensive question, suggesting there's something wrong or unnatural about being homosexual?
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| I was suggesting there must be a physiological difference yes
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| Quote ="rs"Did an ex Hull centre not come out of have I remembered it wrongly?
I know his name but don't want to put it on here in case I'm wrong.'"
Do you mean Tim Wilby? The "property management and sports promotions" guru who brought the evil David Lloyd to Hull? The man who was subsequently found to be a caretaker on a sheltered housing scheme and who had 'allegedly' used profit money to fund his, er, 'extra-curricular' activities? The man who was sent to Australia under the cover of night by Lloyd for possibly the longest holiday ever?
Or do you mean someone else?
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| Quote ="Dico" i've just not come across many 'muscular' gay fellas'"
Christian from Eastenders
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| Stats say there must be gay players At all levels of the game an even members of this board. Do I care? No not a jot most people on here who played either code will have almost certainly played with or been friends with a secretly gay player. If your best mate from your club said to you he was gay would you care? Probably not. a player and/or friend is who he is not what he is.
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| Something that often confuses people is why members of the LGBT community have 'Pride' or 'Like to tell people' but the fact it by telling people it removes stigma. A Gay child seeing a Pride march can help them understand that its ok just to be themselves and that they don't need to hide it any more and the exact same goes for a Gay sports personality, gay politician, gay celebrity. It does help people.
Unfortunately allot of Gay Hate Crime has happened this year, murders and attacks. Prop8 in California removed peoples rights and in Uganda the government have just made it illegal to be homosexual this year. On the 2nd Aug this year in Israel (One of the most gay friendly countries in the world) a gunman killed 2 teenage gay people and injured others whilst they were in a 'hidden support group for teens'.
Sorry for the rant but I applaud the guy for coming out in public, knowing that somewhere a teenage rugby union fan feels that its not actually a bad thing to be who he is.
On a lighter note I leave you with these images (Sorry if they are too big I have not checked the sizes):
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Christian from Eastenders
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Is he actually gay?
That ugandan thing is shocking but the reality is it was probably the same in many 'civilised' parts of the world in the not too distant past. Shocking really
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| The following countries have laws that ban homosexual sex:
* Afghanistan
* Algeria
* Angola
* Antiqua and Barbuda
* *Bangladesh
* Barbados
* Belize
* Bhutan
* Botswana
* *Brunei
* Burundi
* Cameroon
* *Cook Islands
* Djibouti (unknown status)
* Dominica
* Eritrea
* Ethiopia
* *Gambia
* *Gaza
* Ghana
* *Grenada
* Guinea
* *Guyana
* *India
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* *Iraq
* *Jamaica
* *Kenya
* *Kiribati
* *Kuwait
* Lebanon
* *Lesotho
* Liberia
* Libya
* *Malawi
* *Malaysia
* Maldives
* Mauritania
* *Mauritius
* Morocco
* Mozambique
* *Myanmar
* *Namibia
* *Nauru
* Nicaragua
* *Nigeria
* Oman
* *Pakistan
* *Palau
* *Papua New Guinea
* Qatar
* *Saint Kitts and Nevis
* Saint Lucia
* Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
* Sao Tome and Principe
* Saudi-Arabia
* Senegal
* *Seychelles
* *Sierra Leone
* *Singapore
* Solomon Islands
* Somalia
* Sri Lanka
* Sudan
* Swaziland (female/female-unclear)
* Syria (female/female-unclear)
* *Tanzania
* Togo
* *Tonga
* Trinidad and Tobago
* Tunisia
* Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (plans to repeal the law)
* *Turkmesistan
* *Tuvalu
* Uganda
* United Arab Emirates
* *Uzbekistan
* *Western Samoa
* Yemen
* *Zambia
* *Zimbabwe
Countries Whose Laws do not Explicitly ban Same-Sex Behavior, but have some laws which have been used to punish gay and lesbian behavior:
* Costa Rica
* Democratic Republic of Congo
* Egypt
* Indonesia
The countries with an extra * do not consider female/female sex illegal.
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| NearlY everyone Of which is heavily influenced by religion
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| Rainbow who's the bird in the photo? And boris bless him a bumbling fool but very entertaining
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"Rainbow =#FF0000who's the bird in the photo? And boris bless him a bumbling fool but very entertaining'"
It's not that hard to see who she is is it?
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"Rainbow who's the bird in the photo? And boris bless him a bumbling fool but very entertaining'"
Please tell me your joking?
If not its Dannii Minogue.
Here is also a Photo of Boris leading London Pride 2008 along with allot of the Gay Conservatives:
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| No I wasn't joking I must resubscribe to heat magazine I hang my head in shame!
I'm not exactly a huge follower of popular culture (oxymoron if ever there was
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| Quote ="gateaux"It shouldn't. Nobody should feel they have to hide their sexuality but at the same time nobody should be expected to make a big thing about their sexuality and 'go public' either.'"
I don't think anyone is 'expected' to make a big thing of it Gateaux, but whether we like it or not, homosexuality is still a taboo subject despite it being 2009. I think a sportsman of his calibre 'coming out' will only serve to encourage others in many sports to do so, thereby making it more generally 'socially acceptable' and then we'll lose the small minded minority who still play hell with anyone 'a little bit queer' whether it be chanting/abuse etc.
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