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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Of course, people love to blame the RFL for the lack of a Cumbrian team in SL, even though it's through no fault of the RFL.
Cumbrian clubs shouldn't be "helped" any more than any other established club should be "helped". If Haven, Barrow or Workington can't come up with the on and off field package to even put together a licence application, never mind a succesful one, then that's their issue to overcome, not the RFL's.
IIRC, Whitehaven have still to make any steps to deliver on the ground improvement promise that they made (regardless of the result) prior to the 2005 Grand Final.'"
We have the added handicap of players who travel and the costs & accomodation coming out of the salary cap that M62 clubs dont really have.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Of course, people love to blame the RFL for the lack of a Cumbrian team in SL, even though it's through no fault of the RFL.
Cumbrian clubs shouldn't be "helped" any more than any other established club should be "helped". If Haven, Barrow or Workington can't come up with the on and off field package to even put together a licence application, never mind a succesful one, then that's their issue to overcome, not the RFL's.
IIRC, Whitehaven have still to make any steps to deliver on the ground improvement promise that they made (regardless of the result) prior to the 2005 Grand Final.'"
There are a few clubs actually in SL with the same problem.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"
Barrow - ground... 6,500 max and nowhere near premier; average... 2,000. Have been in and out of the two lower divisions for years. Only this year have been competitive.
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Whoa Wellsy, Barrow's average home crowd is a lot more than 2000.
We have have two 3000+ gates and will probably expect another on BHM our last home game and possible title clincher
That leaves 7 other home games where (im trying hard to recollect here, with no figures at hand) so if im right we have averaged something like 2300 in those, add the 3 , 3000+ gates, then we will average something like 2550ish.
Our gates have rose every year in the last 4
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| Wow, 2300? And what is Celtic lambasted for?
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| Quote ="mick wilson"We have the added handicap of players who travel and the costs & accomodation coming out of the salary cap that M62 clubs dont really have.'"
The same problem that Celtic Crusaders had and that Gateshead and London Skolars (amongst others) have then. Although I'd be surprised if that did come out of the salary cap, given that hotel and travel costs are hardly a "benefit in kind" to the players.
Quote There are a few clubs actually in SL with the same problem.'"
And that makes it OK?
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| The old Cumbrian Super League team debate again, Ooooh it must be six weeks since we last had this one.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Barrow-in-Furness is in Lancashire, not Cumberland. Workington, Whitehaven, Carlilse etc. are in Cumberland.'"
Do you not think it might be up to the people who actually live there to decide where they are from?
I live in Cumbria.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"That didn't stop them trying it in South Wales, did it?
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Basically league's equivalent of cornwall in rugby union. Produces great talent but not enough money or people in the area as a whole to sustain a top flight team.
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| Quote ="halifaxxx"look people in wales, scotland, london, newcastle etc simply dont, and wont, care about rugby league
this is not the case in cumbria, so why the hell havent the rfl tried it there?'"
Superleague 1996
11/08/96 - Bradford Bulls v Workington Town (A) Won 28-14 (Att: 2,430)So, 2,430 fans went to Workington to watch Bradford.....yeah...the Cumbrians just Love their RL
353 rolled up earlier this year to watch the once mighty town get beaten by the worst team in the division.....
The teams in Cumbria were offered the merger idea and rejected it.
1,670 average for Whitehaven
2,170 average for Barrow
0000000 average for Carlisle
456 average for Workington......
Yep.......it's a real RL hotbed up there and London and Wales should be binned to get them in
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| Quote ="halifaxxx"look people in wales, scotland, london, newcastle etc simply dont, and wont, care about rugby league
this is not the case in cumbria, so why the hell havent the rfl tried it there?'"
I agree 100%. But to work you are talking about a SL club that will have to play in either Workington or Whitehaven. As it is unlikely that fans from one club would support a team in the next town (even with a name like Cumbria Cobras) there is just the prospect of a very small town trying to attract crowds of 6-8000. No chance.
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