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| Quote ="king piemon"Long had him in his pocket last night
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Was that when King was running through and past him?
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Was that when King was running through and past him?'" That's nothing to brag about most players do that with Long.
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| Quote ="Don Brennans Leg"Wait till the dry grounds
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This is a thread about Matt King, not Terrence Trent Barrett
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| Quote ="redeverready"That's nothing to brag about most players do that with Long.'"
Merely a statement of fact. Ergo; how can he be in his pocket if he is going through him like a sailor on shore leave after six months at sea.
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| Quote ="redeverready"That's nothing to brag about most players do that with Long.'"
probably not but it highlights the fact that warrior attw@ is a right tool.
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| King really came alive in that 2nd half, great run right near the touchline to first create, then a fantastic finish for his try. And then his defence including at one point 3 tackles in a row in golden point that kept KR away.
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| Quote ="lister"King really came alive in that 2nd half, great run right near the touchline to first create, then a fantastic finish for his try. And then his defence including at one point 3 tackles in a row in golden point that kept KR away.'"
But he also had a good chance of scoring another try if he hadnt spilt the ball but he fluffed it, its the best i've seen him play since he got over here, but its still nowhere the standard he played at down under.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"BUMP'"
How times change eh?
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| Carmont is better
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| It's only taken him 2 years eh? Nevermind..
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| Quote ="CAM."It's only taken him 2 years eh? Nevermind..'"
Seem to remember him being a key player on the way to winning at Wembley last season...
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| In fairness, King has had a good start to the year but overall since his arrival has been disappointing. I'd suggest that six good games doesn't compensate for number of extremely poor ones.
He may go on to win MOS this year and prove to be the best around, but don't get ahead of yourself so early in the season.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"Carmont is better
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For the last two seasons, he has been.
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| For the last two years Carmont has been a good player at his best.
For the last two years ( save final 3 months of 2009 season ) King has been a world-class player well below his best. Now we are finally seeing him close to his best.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"For the last two seasons, he has been.
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Not anymore though
The hatrick scoring State of Origin Matt King is here
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| Still not earning his £300k per season salary.
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"Still not earning his £300k per season salary.'"
What's your source for that figure?
He can't be on that when you think about it?
Salary cap is 1.6 mil.
1.3 million (without king) to cover a squad with the likes of: Morley, Carvell, Atkins, Bridge, Myler, Briers Solomona etc in wouldn't be possible.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"In fairness, King has had a good start to the year but overall since his arrival has been disappointing. I'd suggest that six good games doesn't compensate for number of extremely poor ones.
He may go on to win MOS this year and prove to be the best around, but don't get ahead of yourself so early in the season.'"
Overall King is now in a positive balance in terms of being worth it as a signing:
2008 - slow start, decent mid season, average end
2009 - slow start, very good mid season, decent end
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While Cullen and Lowes were coach, he was generally ordinary apart from a good run in mid 2008, and not worth the money Warrington shelled out. However since Smith has been coach he has been one of the best strike centres in the league, his try scoring record is good and he's done damage more in line with what he did in Australia.
Also King does look to me like a good overseas pro, he's committed and hard working and didn't sulk when he was getting a lot of criticism early on, he manned up, admitted he was crap to the press, and knuckled down and now he's doing the business.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"For the last two seasons, he has been.
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what did he do in the cup semi final?
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| Quote ="Oxford Exile"what did he do in the cup semi final?'"
Is that a wires reply to everything?
Why not actually look at kings game in his first season and look at carmonts and admit that Carmont was miles better like the rest of your fans have done. Second season, King improved but still wasn't a patch on carmont, so far King has been going really well, but he will need to keep it up to be worth his wage.
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| He took a good 18 months to turn into anything but he looks great now. Perhaps it should put down the myth that Super League is somehow easier than the NRL?
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| Of course it should. Different leagues, different ways of playing the game.
It also shows that moving 10000+ miles across the planet to join a totally new club/culture isn't as easy as thick Wiganers - who haven't travelled any further than Leigh/Bolton for their cousins' marriage - would love to make out. Some players can do it instantly, others take time.
King has performed consistently well since about the beginning of the Challenge Cup run last season, and is currently the form player in the league.
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