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| Quote ="William Eve"A lot of ass-umptions in your post above. If it takes 2 weeks, 3 weeks, a month ... so what? The longer it takes, the better for Leeds because if he is guilty of homophobic abuse again, he'll be gone for the rest of the season.
The Leeds club of 10 years ago would have sacked the serial miscreant last November. Standards have clearly slipped dramatically at the club because they didn't even sack him in June when they definitely should have.
I bet Matty Smith was pleased as punch (rather than outraged) that he played on Friday.'"
They didn't sack Bailey and Walker.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"They didn't sack Bailey and Walker.'"
I wasn't aware those two were serial miscreants who have demonstrated an inability to learn from their mistakes.
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| Quote ="William Eve"I wasn't aware those two were serial miscreants who have demonstrated an inability to learn from their mistakes.'"
I have my own views on that, this thread is not the place.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I have my own views on that, this thread is not the place.'"
Hardaker was found guilty of homophobic abuse directed at the referee. He couldn't even man up to his offence when issuing an apology by being honest about who the specific target of his venom was, instead claiming it was aimed at Michael Monaghan. Serial misbehaviours, not learning from his mistakes (RLWC last season for instance), issuing an apology which contains a blatant untruth...
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| Quote ="William Eve"
The Leeds club of 10 years ago would have sacked the serial miscreant last November. Standards have clearly slipped dramatically at the club because they didn't even sack him in June when they definitely should have.
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I don't think you're in any position to comment on that.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Sorry but if you make comments on non truths be it on purpose or by mistake you are just twisting it.
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Don't be so stupid. I would only be twisting it if I deliberately set out to twist the story. I asked a question, erroneously as it happenned, but it was still only a question.
By your logic I am damned if I do and damned if I don't.
Very "middle ages let's drown her in case she is a witch, if she isn't then at least she wasn't a witch"
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| If any charge is going to be levelled at Hardaker, it needs to be today.
Charges always made the day before Tuesday disciplinary.
There is no reson why any more time is needed to make a decision on whether or not to charge him.
The RFL has made a complete mess of this one.
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| Quote ="LeagueDweeb"If any charge is going to be levelled at Hardaker, it needs to be today.
Charges always made the day before Tuesday disciplinary.
There is no reson why any more time is needed to make a decision on whether or not to charge him.
The RFL has made a complete mess of this one.'"
Why must it?
Why is there no reason to prolong it further than today? You want Red Hall to come up with a half completed report on something as potenetially as serious as this..give me a break, that's an utterly ludicrous statement.
No, the RFl haven't made any mess, it's the Leeds club and their fans that have come out with stuff with no basis in facts. Stating X based on some random person saying Y.. chinese whispers and gossip.
That the Leeds club are stating it's a witch hunt is all the more ludicrous alongside posters stating that it is a trial by social media, again a huge dollop of crud talk which has upped the ante of the whole scenario.
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| Love a bit of faux outrage.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Why must it?
Why is there no reason to prolong it further than today? You want Red Hall to come up with a half completed report on something as potenetially as serious as this..give me a break, that's an utterly ludicrous statement.
No, the RFl haven't made any mess, it's the Leeds club and their fans that have come out with stuff with no basis in facts. Stating X based on some random person saying Y.. chinese whispers and gossip.
That the Leeds club are stating it's a witch hunt is all the more ludicrous alongside posters stating that it is a trial by social media, again a huge dollop of crud talk which has upped the ante of the whole scenario.'"
And breathe.......
The previous incident where Hardaker was caught on camera, which I think is an entirely reasonable one to use as a comparator, led to him being charged on the second Monday after his offence.
That is today in this instance. Given that it's a matter of simply looking at a piece of footage to determine what was said, I see no reason for any delay in excess of that in the previous instance.
There does not have to be a report prepared, and you'll excuse me if I don't believe potential name calling as is as serious as you seem to believe.
Hardaker has faced intense scrutiny and received a huge amount of coverage across all media formats, I'd be concerned for his state of mind being placed under such pressure without any justification whatsoever.
The Leeds club has a duty of care towards it's employee, which it has discharged. The RFL has a duty of care to players, which is has abjectly failed to discharge. Not forgetting the extremely suspicious process irregularities that have occurred.
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| Best get it out the way before Keighley drag their sorry ar5e5 through the courts. They're going to be busy! #fookingshambles
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Why must it?
Why is there no reason to prolong it further than today? You want Red Hall to come up with a half completed report on something as potenetially as serious as this..give me a break, that's an utterly ludicrous statement.
No, the RFl haven't made any mess, it's the Leeds club and their fans that have come out with stuff with no basis in facts. Stating X based on some random person saying Y.. chinese whispers and gossip.
That the Leeds club are stating it's a witch hunt is all the more ludicrous alongside posters stating that it is a trial by social media, again a huge dollop of crud talk which has upped the ante of the whole scenario.'"
How do you know the stuff Leeds came out with last week has "no basis in facts"
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"How do you know the stuff Leeds came out with last week has "no basis in facts"'"
Nice try sonny, I think you need to be looking at those stating their case with no presentation of facts aside from what has being spoken about on here and amongst the terati.
So you tell me, what FACTS, real life ones have actually being stated officially by the RFL and/or the officals? Not ones that randomly pop up on social media or a poster saying she told me that he said that she said..and all of a sudden that is spouted as facts..
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Nice try sonny, I think you need to be looking at those stating their case with no presentation of facts aside from what has being spoken about on here and amongst the terati.
So you tell me, what FACTS, real life ones have actually being stated officially by the RFL and/or the officals? Not ones that randomly pop up on social media or a poster saying she told me that he said that she said..and all of a sudden that is spouted as facts..
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No nice try about it. You said the things the Leeds club has come out with has no basis in facts. How do you know this? You don't know the facts just like those people on here you're criticising.
I know people on here don't know the facts whether they're for or against Hardaker, I agree with that and haven't tried to claim otherwise.
So again how do you know what Leeds are saying isn't fact? Or have you just made that 'fact' up yourself?
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| So is the RFL going to carry on trying until next Monday to find something to charge Hardaker with, or are they simply going to stay quiet & hope this just goes away?
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| Quote ="LeagueDweeb"So is the RFL going to carry on trying until next Monday to find something to charge Hardaker with, or are they simply going to stay quiet & hope this just goes away?'"
The RFL are going to investigate him for inappropriate exposure against wigan after he revealed his chest to illustrate scratch marks. I know a few people on twitter found it offensive.
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| Quote ="LeagueDweeb"So is the RFL going to carry on trying until next Monday to find something to charge Hardaker with, or are they simply going to stay quiet & hope this just goes away?'"
[iDear Mr ********
Thank you for your email and continued support for Rugby League.
The whole matter is under investigation by the RFL and a decision will hopefully be made shortly.
Regards
Reception
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Received today but who knows with this shower.
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| anyone would think they are going through lip readers until they find one that agrees with them.................................
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| Looks like Saints aren't the only ones who are dummy spitting tonight
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| Does that deserve a ? I'm not sure it does. Some people are more easily amused than others I suppose. Here, pull my finger!
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| Quote ="ryano"[iDear Mr ********
Thank you for your email and continued support for Rugby League.
The whole matter is under investigation by the RFL and a decision will hopefully be made shortly.
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The WHOLE matter..........maybnt e they are looking at trying to find a way of a guilty verdict whilst explaining the witch hunt as a figment of everyone's imagination
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| Quote ="LeagueDweeb"So is the RFL going to carry on trying until next Monday to find something to charge Hardaker with, or are they simply going to stay quiet & hope this just goes away?'"
TBF they are world class experts at the latter. And with a high degree of "success".
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| So are we assuming they tryed to pull a fast one, leeds called them on it, and now they are kinda just hoping the whole thing drifts away into the backdrop of the playoffs?
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"So are we assuming they tryed to pull a fast one, leeds called them on it, and now they are kinda just hoping the whole thing drifts away into the backdrop of the playoffs?'"
No.
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| Quote ="bren2k"No.'"
It can't take 2 weeks with such damning evidence of guilt.
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