And hopefully against some of the other scources who post libellous claims

Serious question. Should these boards feature adverts from a certain ambulance chaser who has just confirmed his dislike of free speech - surely reason for the boards existence in the first place?

That money is remedial maintenance to make a condemned stand barely usable again. Hardly a significant "improvement". The ground is disgrace - all the more so because it was built at a time when stadium architecture meant that there simply is no excuse for obstructed views, etc.

Freedon of speech exists within a legal framework. We are not "free" to write or say anything we like without an offended party having the legal right to challenge what has been written or said.

If what has been written about HKR turns out to be false then the courts will decide in their favour. It is the right of anyone to seek redress through the courts in this manner. Is it just because it's Hull KR that you're so upset about it? I think it probably is.

Not necessarily, you should try reading up on the defamation laws. It all depends on what the effect on aggrieved party's character would be. If I said tha Ian Huntley had never bought a TV licence in his life, even if untrue, it is highly unlikely that he would be awarded anything against me. Simply because my statement would do nothing to degrade his character further.

I'm still waiting for someone, anyone, to explain just what part of the HDM article is not factual.

But it is the right of anyone who feels aggrieved to ask the court for a decision.

I've no idea what part of the article is not factual. Although I guess now we won't know until it goes to court, if it gets that far. I'm surprised that it has been deemed necessary to take court action but hey ho. I suppose that publicity of this kind could be detrimental to the next license application which might be the reason for Rovers' action in this case.

My view is hdm said Hull KR are £3m in debt but accounts are for 2008 it is now 2010 rovers could now be £4m or even £5m in debt or they could be £1m or £2m in debt they could even be debt free(which i very much doubt).I dont know you dont know the only poeple who know are Hull KR

I'm considering taking the HDM to court because it makes my chips smell funny and the ink comes off on my arris

Although I'm no legal expert, the Dobson headline "I'll prove I'm the best scrum-half in the city" would be commonly interpreted as that, that is what he actually said when it wasn't. Even though they haven't put headline in quotes, I'd expect it to fall under some kind of law - possibly defamation in the context that the HDM have portrayed him to be arrogant/cocky etc. if not defamation then I'm sure it would fall into a similar category - which one I don't know.

Again common interpretation of the £3M debt headline again indicates the figure in a current context and in a current context, it is simply not true as the current figure is around the £1M bracket. I'd imagine if the club could argue that if the HDM deliberately printed the article to infer that the figure was in a current context to portray a negative image of the club to potential investors or who ever, then that would be their avenue of leverage - as for what law it would fall under I don't know.

When all is said and done, the bottom line is that I'm 100% sure that Hudge wouldn't take legal action unless he believed it would hold water.

Try eating the chips before you wipe your arris with it.

i dont know what you are on but if you think extending the length of a grandstand is remedial maintenance you should stop taking that stuff

Craven Park has improved significantly as a ground. we are talking about actual real improvements, not artists impression that never get built because they cant get funding.

a lot of money has been spent on Craven Park, be it club or council. Hull council have shown they will support their local clubs with ground improvemens, something wakey council should copy.

The only real improvement is the extention of the main standing area. The seating at one end of the ground is temporary. Is it any different to the corperate flats at Wakefield?

Try reading [url=http://www.sporthull.co.uk/headlines/Hull-KR-Accounts-debts-163-3m/article-1638846-detail/article.htmlthe article[/url again, specifically:

[iCovering the financial period up to [uNovember 30, 2008[/u, the accounts indicate the Robins had debts of £3.16m at that time.

The figures do not take into account the 2009 season, during which Hudgell has already admitted the Robins made losses of around £450,000.

The accounts, signed by the KR chairman last month, show £2,284,107 owed to creditors by the Robins is due to be repaid within a year.

Another £882,090 is due to creditors over the longer term.

The accounts do not specify to whom the money is owed.

However, Hudgell has previously hinted that board members at Craven Park have been prepared to fund heavy investment in the playing squad, and underwrite the club's debts.[/i

You've completely ignored my points.

Besides all the "my dads bigger than your dad" bickering that's going on, why arn't people concerned by the fact that the financial state of the game cannot be classed as "healthy"?

The current financial state of play and the timing of TV renewals does not bode well for some I would suggest.

You haven't actually made any, so it wasn't difficult. As for you saying the debts are currently around £1m how do you come to that figure? If the filed accounts show a debt of £3.16m and Hudgell says he lost another £450k last season that shows that Hull KR owe £3.6m. It also says that Hull KR have fixed assets of £1.5m , but unless the fixed assets are going to be sold to reduce the debt, your club still owes £3.6m, £2.2m of which is supposed to be repaid in the next 12 months.

I'm still interest in what fixed assets HUll KR could have which are worth £1.5m?

they spent a lot of money extending the pitch

and they arent finished yet

by the times its done it will be a tidy ground.

with BV theyd need to demolish it and start from scratch

As my points are too complex for you to understand, you obviously are incapable of progressing the thread beyond where it was at the time you intervened. I myself didn't come to the £1M figure, it is simply relayed information.

Whilst I appreciate talking about Rovers' finances is a way of venting your bitter and twisted feeling towards the fact we finished 15 points above you last season, you're just gonna have to deal with it because there'll be more of the same next season I'm afraid...

debt , as they pay their wage bills for the season

It still equates to a 3 million debt , and as has been pointed out , as they dont own New craven Park they cannot use it as an asset in the accounts

What is very good is that the club are willing to put this information out into the open , it will hopefully help in their efforts to draw in some support to get the north stand project under way , as they need this to progress and to reduce their reliance on director input

Such openness from other clubs would be a positive

You are completely clueless. I live 200 yards from the ground and for you to say there has been massive improvements is foolish.
They have extended the east stand and thats it! The place is a ehole.
They also promised further extension by the start of the 2010 season, which, they won't do, and now there begging the council for money to get it done at all.
I couldn't give a monkeys about your anti-wakey agenda but using Rovers as a benchmark for any ground improvements is only making you look a fool.

Zoddy, my friend, please give this up. You sound as stupid as dally messenger!

And no matter what anybody's opinion of the golf stand it is still a hell of a lot better than what was there before

Personally I'd have said sort out the other end to stop the bloody wind first

Stop talking rubbish and read the Daily mail article and take your blinkers off. They HDM didn't imply anything, they simply stated the facts on the accounts that were published that Hull Kr had at the end of that accounting period net liabilities of £3.16m, £2.2m of which to be repaid with 12 months. Your chairman had said for last season the club had lost another £450,000. As for your possible defamation example regarding dobson, it simply proves you don't have a clue.

Talking about Rovers' finances does not detract from the fact you finished 12th last year...

The Craven Park pitch was a disgrace before, Wakefields pitch is one of the best in the league - so they dont have to invest in that. So other than extending the main standing area - what other improvements have they done that Wakefield havent?