The contrary is believed to be true actually!

At least 2 separate buyers wanted the club, but TR refused to release his grip. This led to a senior official leaving the club and a major fall out with a sponsor.

Do I need to "alledgedly"?

And this means that you are not having difficulties?



KD has made it clear he will be around for several years and that he would never leave the club with any debt. We fans are very lucky.

If you have the smarts to look at accounts then you can the smarts to look at all that is happening at Trin. I doubt it is rosy to you.

Whilst I appreciate the reference I deal in facts only. I have not posted anything further on the Wakefield financial position for a couple of days - mainly because there are no more facts worth mentioning.

I could have raised the issue that the club branded the gate against Huddersfield a success on their own website, stating that the crowd was bolstered by the community programme.
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I could have mentioned the reverse economics of swapping a higher paid player for a lower paid one whilst still paying the higher salary for a player not playing for you.
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I could have mentioned about the sale of Leeds-Bradford airport and the 5 councils all getting varying amounts of millions from it. Wakefield MBC has spent it's money on 'general expenditures' - this money could have been allocated to your stadium project but clearly has been used to fill a hole in it's own funds yet where will the £30million for the stadium come from?
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Whilst you like to lump me into the same bag as MarsdenGiant I can categorically state all I have done is pull together all the facts that are out there that most people know about and put them into one easy to read list (with a cheap quip from myself which I hold my hand up for).

If there is no problem at Wakefield then feel free to bury your head in the sand and wait for the new stadium to rise from the ground in the middle of a recession.

The only ‘theory’ I have is, you were at one point, a Wakefield supporter, who became disillusioned for whatever reason, and swapped allegiances.

Yet you still haven’t answered the question – are you an ex-Wakefield fan?

No. Are you an ex Wakey supporter. (Many have left since last year.)

And presumably if Davey walked Hudds would be okay financially, because all those so called fans that Davey is paying through the turnstiles for free would still support you.

Oh its not every coach now, sorry I thought that, that was what you were implying when in reality you were just trying to give the impression that you knew everybody and his dog connected to SL And fwiw there were quite a few Wakefield fans knew yesterday morning what you knew re Korki/Scully so you might go dwell on that or as you put it go figure



Not sure what knuckle dragging observations are love thats right over my head. And like most Wakey fans I deal with the real world and not that of make believe we seem to spend most of our time speculating what rubbish bitter and twisted posters from the Hudds board can drag up about us, as laughable and amusing as it is it does get boring reading your drivel after a while.

Oh and finally good luck to your reserves' at the weekend. I hope you get all you wish for. With you having half your first team squad in and we just playing the academy players' your wish will probably come true.

FFS this is getting boring now ! and i'm a Giants fan

I have followed Wakefield for the best part of forty years, in that time they have won jack-all, but I would never change my allegiance to another club, I would have thought it similar to a Jew converting to Islam. But your fixation with all things bad about Wakefield Trinity must have a deep rooted reason. I’m just trying to help you release those demons

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She started it pal. Or are you just bitter because she has stole your thunder.

I presume you're using the term "she" as a wind up?

Your ignorance re the Giants surpasses your ignorance re Trin...just.

Show me where I have claimed to know loads of coaches. Find one post. Just one. You wont, of course, because you resort to making things up.

The knuckle dragging comment would be over your head



If you want to pretend things are hunky dory. Go ahead. If you want to ignore me. go ahead. if you want to amuse me keep posting your feeble denials / excuses.

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You kindness and deep humanity have not gone unnoticed.

Back to your clubs predicament. Do you think SL status is sustainable if a very good first half of the season (there is a wakey +ve in there if you look for it) still results in a gate of only 5k with over 500 kids included?

So thats it then is it. Your now down to the abuse, typical if you cant give a proper answer then deflect it by hurling scorn at people. If you read it properly I just asked the question whether the club could sustain the support if Davey walked and the fans could not get in for free. Somehow you are trying your best to evade the question and make out that I am ignorant. If the question is too difficult for you then just say. And as for Hudds I know exactly what I need to know and that is didly. I do however confess to knowing a little about Wakey, when I say a little I mean a little more than you, which is all conjecture on your part.

As for the coaching bit, if I could be bothered I would put your post up and show you where you tried to show people you were in the know, and as for making things up, there is only one drama queen on here dear.

I dont do pretend either Wakefields problems are well documented as you are always quick to point out, as for ignoring you, you are like a turd on the top of the water no matter how much you flush the toileit it just wont go away. And what denials/excuses are we talking about here then. These must be in your head because they havent been posted on here. And I am glad that I am keeping you amused I know that you are easily pleased.

Of course it’s sustainable, the club will have to cut its cloth to suit. Regarding SL status, whether the clubs average attendance is 5K or 7K it’s still only worth one point on Red Halls points system. The major hurdle is, as it always was, moving from BV.

So there we have it. You make things up about what I say then make excuses when asked to back it up with proof. Typical.

Of course we are better off with KD. Where have I said otherwise?

So you want to call me a turd. Goodness me. How...witty



Back to topic. Do you think the fall in gates strengthens the club economically? Do you think a professional organisation shoud publicise suspensions? Do you think the Watene walkers should have been allowed a lap of honour?

Not so. Gates influence 2 points. They influence ability to strengthen the squad and development structures -further points - and getting finance for a 12K stadium when crowds are falling is also more difficult.

I don’t see the correlation between larger crowds & getting the finance for a new ground. It’s a catch 22 situation, new ground, hopefully larger crowds. I appreciate that people will not want to see a team being beaten every week but even some clubs who spend up to the cap are pretty gash.

Regarding the points system, I was under the impression there’s a point for 40% of capacity and another from exceeding 10K. WTRLFC will never attain the second one whilst their still at B.V, so the one point I was referring to is the 40% capacity one.

There are many supporters who would love for their team to be playing out of a decent ground, both in & out of SL, but, some are not as lucky as others. Posters come on here bleating about certain grounds & how marvellous their own clubs is as though they personally facilitated it, when in fact they just picked the right horse by supporting that club

Private £ wants returns. A club with declining gates - even when on a successful run - is unattractive. Justifying public money for a 12K stadium with declining gates is difficult. There are points for facilities. To get up to scratch requires money - the excuse of waiting for a new stadium is wearing thin. Gate £ and sponsorship linked to gate is important here.

Whereas money does not guarentee success the long term lack of it does underpin poor performance. And SL expect money to be spent on development.

The published accounts only go to November 2007 so I would love to have a copy of the Audited Accounts you are reading as these have not yet been submitted to Companies House.

Who are these players'/coaches in the game who know so much, perhaps you would like to enlighten us nah didnt think so.

Who wouldnt be better off with a KD. My question to you for the third time is would/could Hudds sustain their income through the turnstiles' if KD walked and the fans had to start paying. Please note no fudging answer the question.

I did not call you a turd exactly I likened you to one.

Do I think that the fall in gates strengthens the club economically, er not sure I will have to think about that one



I think that whatever Wakefield want to do regarding making public the suspension of their players' is one for them to decide upon, and my thoughts on the matter dont come up for discussion with you.

And finally we come to where you show your true colours. Is there nothing you wont do, as to stoop that low by using the Adam Watene walk to score points off Wakefield. I find that you are beneath contempt. I and a lot more good people walked on Sunday for a good man, and nobody wanted any recognition for it. If you want to run Wakefield down have the good grace and decency if you know the meaning of the word to leave him out of your petty vendetta against the club.

Id re-word the question

I dont know one fan that doesnt pay unless you know something different?

It was a shambles not allowing / enabling a lap of honour. Your own fans say so. They were indignant. On a 4 page thread onthe subject you seemed to manage one brown nosing post re the club. Funnily enough there was none of the bile of your final para here. How hypocritical to have a go at me over the walk when utterly failing to do so with your own supporters.



Of course the club would be materially worse off without KD. However he is the owner. Would we play in a dump if still at fartown? yes, but we are now in the Galpharm. these are the realities.

Your ground is very poor, you appear to be tenants, the prospect of a new ground is slim, your director of football says when you get that new ground your financial worries will melt away, your gates are down, there were player suspensions and indications are players are available.

Our ground is poor and we appear to be tennants' nothing new there then.
Once again you speak like an authoritarian on the subject of Wakefield, you know for sure that we are not getting a new ground. No did not think so, who hasnt got financial worries and I doubt anybody elses' financial worries will melt away as you put it our gates are down player suspensions
players available. It would appear then we are in a bad way. We are doomed then last one out turn off the light.

On the subject of the walk so as not to imflame what seemed like a delicate situation at the time what I posted I did in the interest of harmony in the club and fwiw I only said maybe they had other issues to address. It does not suprise me one bit that the cesspit mind of yours would try and use it to your advantage by saying that I was brown nosing. After all you need to deflect from the embarrassment you caused all the decent people from Huddersfied. As far as the Wakey fans are concerned the difference with them complaining and you is that you have a different agenda than those fans. They in the main were complaining that an opportunity had been wasted to boost the fund somewhat and the chance to get some much needed pr. Where as on the other hand all you wanted to do was to spread your poison even further, another despicable thing your more than capable of.

If you do not think the prospects of a new ground are slim then bully for you. Those of us on planet earth realise that you are at a very early stage, there is no apparent £ and a recession. The SL timescales are tight. Dream on little fella



Have i caused embarrassment to the people of Huddersfield? Goodness me this thread has a huge impact. Were you appointed a spokesman for them? Did you do some polling? Or have you made up some spurious 'assumption'. Hmmmm lets think



If the giants did not let kids (and adults) do a lap of honour I would criticise them rather than 'look for harmony' , not brown nose like you.

keep amusing me with your bile driven posts.

Back to topic. You appear critical of 'free entry' at the giants. This is only for U12s. I think it is to the credit of the club. I see there were 500+ kids at the game on sunday. I assume if these got in free you would criticise it or woud we get a helping of hypocracy again?