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| Quote ="Ayres Rock"very feasible. For starters I have always said that Morley will be on minimum pay for the next 12 months while on a playing contract but I would expect that come 2015 when he joins the coaching staff he will get a very nice bonus / wage at that point. Chase and a share in a horse to offset would have no impact on the salary cap. Immoral? debatable. I don't say that just as a Salford fan but anybody who doesn't believe the salary cap has been getting bent around since it's inception is naïve.'"
Morley might well be on more when he's a coach, I'm not sure how that's getting around the salary cap in any way.
Why wouldn't shares in a horse be counted on the cap?
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| Quote ="Him"Morley might well be on more when he's a coach, I'm not sure how that's getting around the salary cap in any way.
Why wouldn't shares in a horse be counted on the cap?'"
because it isnt a regular salary and it isnt guarenteed to make money id imagine? i could be wrong?
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| Quote ="Karlos13"On the subject of the salary cap, Dr Koukash stated today that Salfords reatined list from this years squad are using up a measly £400k - £500k of the salary cap. By my reckoning that has left Salford with £1.2m + for new signings to take us up to full cap.
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That should get you a decent squad but when it's reported your paying the likes pf Tommy Lee 100k it wont go very far.
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| Quote ="Wadski"...and the potential for a 'haves' and 'have nots' split down the middle of the team.'"
Does this apply to other clubs who spend the full cap? Or is it only Salford who have a wage difference between players while other clubs pay all players equal amounts?
Quote ="K-Diddy"That should get you a decent squad but when it's reported your paying the likes pf Tommy Lee 100k it wont go very far.'"
Wouldn't believe everything you read in the MEN. Not the most reliable source of information.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"because it isnt a regular salary and it isnt guarenteed to make money id imagine? i could be wrong?'"
Makes no difference. Shares have a value, in the same way a car does.
It's just rugby league fans making up rubbish in some desperate and bizarre attempt to talk down the game at nearly every opportunity.
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| IF Marwan Koukash, not Salford but Marwan Koukash, had given Rangi Chase a share in a racehorse before he signed for the club then it would surely count as a personal transaction and have nothing to do with the salary cap?
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| I reckon he'll just tell em which races to bet on
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| Why the big interest in Salford's salary cap? Are other clubs just allowed decent players without any questions asked, but cos it's Salford we must be breaking the cap.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Why the big interest in Salford's salary cap? Are other clubs just allowed decent players without any questions asked, but cos it's Salford we must be breaking the cap.'"
No other clubs have owners who have publicly vowed to break the salary cap. That's a pretty big clue.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Why the big interest in Salford's salary cap? Are other clubs just allowed decent players without any questions asked, but cos it's Salford we must be breaking the cap.'"
The fact he went to the media commenting on it, you know the one. And the fact that no other teams are signing 12 new players of which most are supposed to be an improvement on who they are replacing. Why so paranoid if its all above board you have nothing to worry about..
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| Dr Koukash stated today that Salford have respected the salary cap this year and will continue to do so next. One ill informed and frustrated comment early on during his tenure and all of sudden we're breaking the salary cap? Give it a rest.
You also read that our retained squad list for next season totals £400k in wages, right? Thus giving us circa £1.2m to spend on wages. So there's your 12 players covered.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Dr Koukash stated today that Salford have respected the salary cap this year and will continue to do so next. One ill informed and frustrated comment early on during his tenure and all of sudden we're breaking the salary cap? Give it a rest.
You also read that our retained squad list for next season totals £400k in wages, right? Thus giving us circa £1.2m to spend on wages. So there's your 12 players covered.'"
I repeat 'why so paranoid if everythings above board you have nothing to worry about'
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| Who's saying I'm paranoid? I know we have nothing to worry about, but seeing the continual illformed comments from the clueless on here is becoming tiresome.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Who's saying I'm paranoid? I know we have nothing to worry about, but seeing the continual illformed comments from the clueless on here is becoming tiresome.'"
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Who's saying I'm paranoid? I know we have nothing to worry about, but seeing the continual illformed comments from the clueless on here is becoming tiresome.'"
Indeed.
Seems a lot of the old school don't like the new kids on the block.
I for one wish you all the best,exciting times ahead.
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| How has a GP from St Helens got the money to even contemplate breaking the salary cap?
I was informed by several members of the "rugby league family" that Koukash is a fraud.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Dr Koukash stated today that Salford have respected the salary cap this year and will continue to do so next. One ill informed and frustrated comment early on during his tenure and all of sudden we're breaking the salary cap? Give it a rest.
You also read that our retained squad list for next season totals £400k in wages, right? Thus giving us circa £1.2m to spend on wages. So there's your 12 players covered.'"
All those 12 won't be on 100k+ either there's even more signings to be made Gleeson said another 2 massive signings to be finalised but he was tight lipped on who it was?
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| Anyone you thinks the better funded sides are not spending more on players than the measly salary cap allows is naive. The will be hundreds of ways to get around it which any half decent accountant can arrange.
If you do get caught not breaking the rules the the RFL invent something where you get done for breaking the spirit of the rules. So be it.
I read somewhere that win bonuses aren't counted for example. Many have muted that Leeds' foreign contingent often stopped off in Singapore for some 'banking' on the way home. There were always rumours of jobs for the WAG's at JJB or any other owners business or sponsors businesses.
To be honest i don't care, let him spend what he wants, if he's willing to chuck money into the sport then good luck to him.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior" if he's willing to chuck money into the sport then good luck to him.'"
anyone know how much of his own money he's spent so far?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"anyone know how much of his own money he's spent so far?'"
Not a clue. I'm certainly not Salford's accountant but i'd be fairly confident to say they didn't have much in the bank when he took over.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"Not a clue. I'm certainly not Salford's accountant but i'd be fairly confident to say they didn't have much in the bank when he took over.'"
Fair enough.....it just strikes me he's not the sort to quietly pump cash into anything.....he certainly likes to get in front of camera and blow hard about his plans for the future though.
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| £300k to Revenue and Customs, £70k in wages owed to 2013 playing squad, however much to pay off Phil Vievers, Brian Nobles wage, £112k to Cas for Rangi Chase, £50-90k to Wakefield for Tim Smith and an unknown sum to Wigan for Gareth Hock.
That's just off the top of my head.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"£300k to Revenue and Customs, £70k in wages owed to 2013 playing squad, however much to pay off Phil Vievers, Brian Nobles wage, £112k to Cas for Rangi Chase, £50-90k to Wakefield for Tim Smith and an unknown sum to Wigan for Gareth Hock.
That's just off the top of my head.'"
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| Operating costs and wages for staff/players for the season because we didnt have a bean in the accounts when he took over and our gate receipts certainly wont have covered that.
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| what happened to the money from SKY for TV rights? Or revenue from sponsorship for 2013?
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