Of course every other council in the land would be using their reserves to subsidise PLCs, hardly their remit? Councillors may be thick but they're not stupid: without public pressure they know that voting through the building of a new stadium in the light of all the cutbacks elsewhere would be political suicide. And your last point pretty much sums up WMDC, they do usually put the 'city' first.....

A great many councils have funded community stadiums. Rather than being a donation to private companies, which nobody is demanding, the best examples of community stadiums are hubs for projects that improve the community in a range of ways- whether that be education, health & wellbeing or sport & leisure.

As for what the wmdc put first, it’s hardly the city. The eastern centric approach has seen a disproportionate amount of investment into the eastern wards, whilst the city centre has been left to waste away.

The best way the wmdc cam right the wrongs they’ve contributed to with the Newmarket debacle would be to take Michael Carter up on his proposal.
- The council take out a loan to fund the purchase of the BV site.
- MC/the club pay the interest on the loan, meaning a zero financial contribution to the taxpayer.
- The principle amount for the loan would be covered by WT’s rent, with the council having a new multi-million pound facilities on their books for no financial input.

Just to add, WMDC certainly doesn't think about their sporting facilities around the whole district, that's why we rank last in the whole Country in that area and I'm not talking about WMDC building a RL stadium here, it's the complete lack of Council owned sports facilities like MUGA pitches and swimming pools etc that people can use for a number of sports. Off the top of my head, they really only own, the Athletics track at Thornes Park and Sun Lane baths, many swimming pools out of the City have been shut down. That's probably also why Wakefield has one of the worst child obesity problems in the Country as well. WMDC need to give the kids and let's be honest adults too, a good reason to get out of their bedrooms/ living rooms and a chance to play sport with their mates or by themselves, that doesn't involve traveling miles to get to.

You forgot the Sharlston pit site as well/

Its 7700 actually so you might want to recalculate

Plus 1000 people turned up to an international at Wakefield’s stadium in 2016. No that’s not a typo it was 1000. No wonder the council won’t build them a stadium, what’s the point? No one cares about rugby in that city, the money could be put to better use

Contradictory much King James? Honestly mods why is this troll allowed to continue posting wim posts.

WMDC knocked our sports centre down, told us we should all use the brand new one 5 miles away in a different town and hats not been built yet not got planning yet and unlikely to be built for at least 5 years if at all.

The whole Cas / Wakey new stadia fiasco reminds me of that Roller coaster ride in Blackpool (Grand National)

First it was Cas with Glasshoughton Mk I, then Wakey come up on the rails with the Newmarket debacle, as that begins to unravel back come Cas with Glasshoughton Mk II.

Now it seems the storm clouds are brewing over WF10 & all of a sudden Wakefield are back in the race!

Two famous old clubs on the rickety wooden ride, racing to the bottom.

To the bottom of what?
Both in top 5 of Super League
Both have good youth development
Both are financially steady

If you only want a stadium you might as well put Leigh Widnes Featherstone in the top flight. Of course the rugby won't be as good but that's not what we are here for is it.......... Oh wait...... Doh.

How much is Cas and Wakey’s ability to compete recently has to do with SL’s stagnation in the last decade especially with the salary cap?

Go on then tell us.

To the bottom of the grubby barrel, begging bowls in hand, promised the earth, yet receiving endless false dawns. Both guided by an incompetent council, whilst unscrupulous developers run rings round their grandiose plans.



I personally don't give two hoots about what the facilities are like, but I'm a dinosaur brought up on winter rugby & the likes, however if you cannot see the benefits of having a modern facility, just keep rocking up at B.V. for whatever time it has left.

I'm sure Poptart can speak for himself but I've never seen him say there are no benefits to having a modern stadium and facilities - in fact, the exact opposite. As a Trinity fan yourself you know what most of us think and have said about how much difference a new facility would make for us as a team/business and supporters over the years and years. it's just not the be all and end all is it to RL and the game as a whole.

About right that, knock the local one down and tell you to go use a mythical one in a different city.

Of course I see the benefit.
But that benefit is to Wakefield Trinity's income.
It bugs me when other clubs have a go when it makes no difference to them and imply we are so terrible when actually in rugby terns we are consistently better than most on the field.

Well if the salary cap had risen over the last 15 years more in line with what it should’ve done it would be closer to £3m rather than £2m. Hardly a stretch to see how those who struggle to reach the cap as it is now would’ve suffered had it done so.

We are seeing small increases coming up year upon year now of the salary cap along with the marquee rule, it will get harder for those who can’t hang with those changes financially to keep up.

or bless, finished in top 8 two years in a row and think you have dynasty and are a top team. see where you are in two years time, will you then be spouting about what matters on the field when your back in bottom 4, then you will be spouting about how your new stadium will save the game.

So because Wakey and Cas choose to live within their means it's their fault that the salary cap hasn't been aloud to spiral out of control, that's despite the best efforts of certain clubs to try and cheat it, your becoming increasingly boring in your constant Wakey bashing, I think I'd sooner listen to you telling us about the 8 GF you've won, far more interesting

Come on, you haven’t “chosen to live within your means”. You simply can’t afford more.

That you think the Salary Cap raising somewhere in relation to everyday inflation rather than staying still for over a decade is “spiralling out of control” says everything you need to know about Wakefield’s financial ability.

Absolutely, It's called living living within your means, what's it called in Leeds




You don't really have much credence in your argument when you have to twist my words to make a point, I never mentioned everyday inflation I questioned your reasoning that Wakey and Cas were responsible for the stagnation in the rise of the salary cap, and also pointed out that certain clubs were responsible for trying to navigate round it, Wakey's financial ability/inability to keep pace with the cap is their business and their's alone, and only comes into debate when they act irresponsibly by living above their means or transgress the rules by trying to cheat the cap, hope that's a simple enough explanation for you, though I fear it may not.

Stop trying to be clever, because you’re not and just look silly trying to be with attempted smart lines like that last line.

I never said Cas and Wakey were responsible for the salary cap stagnation, what I said is that they’ve benefited from it, and you have the cheek to say I’m twisting words to make a point? Don’t be a hypocrite.

Also give over with the “Wakefield’s ability to keep pace financially is their business alone” because Wakefield fans pop up questioning other clubs both SL and Championship when it suits....so again cut out the hypocrisy. Your fans don’t seem to mind piping up questioning the finances of clubs who don’t run reserves do you now.

In Leeds it's called "growth". Unfortunately, it's a word that's not too common in RL.

I'm not trying to be clever, just lowering myself to your argumentative standards, as for looking silly I'll have to live with it I suppose



Your not twisting your words your making them up as you go along despite contrary to what you've already written.

So is Wakefield's finances any of your business, or do you think that because some Wakefield fans discuss other clubs finances in general that automatically gives you the right to criticise Wakefields lack of funding, and you call me a hypocrite

Make up your mind, first I was twisting my words and now I’m making them up as I go along...it’s almost like your making up your argument as you go along.



That’s not being a hypocrite...,you may want to look up the meaning of the word because you clearly don’t understand. I think on a rugby league FORUM we can discuss ANYTHING. I’ve not said we can’t discuss any certain subject so again, no hypocrisy. You just don’t like people pointing out Wakefield’s financial shortcomings because you don’t have a good enough rebuttal.