they didnt win the minor premiership the last 3 years, manly won it this year.

melbourne have lost a stack of players over the past 2 years.

even with the best coach in the nrl its going to be very hard for them to bounce back.

have a look at the players theyve lost over the past 3 years. they are certainly back to the field now.

Can you prove that was due to the salary cap?

nah you are right.

the nrl clubs agreed before hand to give each other turns at winning it

Quote ="dally messenger"they didnt win the minor premiership the last 3 years, manly won it this year. '" Really? www.nrlnews.com/nrl-2008-ladder- ... nts-table/

Quote ="dally messenger"they didnt win the minor premiership the last 3 years, manly won it this year. '" Really? www.nrlnews.com/nrl-2008-ladder- ... nts-table/

ill give you a hand, 24 out of 34 players who played in the NRL grand final, were playing for the team they started their career with,

So those are the only two possible explanations?

why are you comparing two Salary Capped leagues and pretending that proves something,

thats something to be happy about isnt it,

Melbourne were too good, lets bring the back to the pack

i suppose we will be asking tiger woods to use clubs made of Jelly, Usain Bolt is no longer allowed to wear shoes, and everyone else gets to use a boat when racing Michael Phelps

yep thats exactly what the cap does.

wait till it does it in SL, the competition will boom.

you get 3 years to win a competition if your team is any good before the effects of inflation in players salaries mean you have to start shedding players and then start looking for juniors again to start the process of building the team up again

Yet still keep winning the Minor Prems? Aye, the Salary Cap is biting hard in Oz...

no, the NRL made sure the refs gave penalties to the weaker sides over the stronger sides.

Found those straws you're clutching for?

they didnt win the minor premiership this year.

the roosters won 2 minor premierships in the early part of this decade, made 3 grand finals then sunk.

the storm appear to be on that track as well.

bellamy is a great coach and they have managed to keep all their good players except israel but they have constant pressure under their cap.

they wont be able to keep any more good players or sign good players from elsewhere.

its going to be a big battle to hold the fort where they are now.

That link's wrong?

www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/sp ... 36494.html Gallop said the NRL would not survive without the salary cap. "It's a foundation stone of the competition and if we were to have a competition without the salary cap, a competition based on pure purchasing power, then a few of our clubs, a small number, would be in a position to buy the best players," Gallop said. "We would have a lopsided competition and ultimately clubs would be under financial pressure to survive." And he received unanimous support from club chief executives.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/sp ... 36494.html Gallop said the NRL would not survive without the salary cap. "It's a foundation stone of the competition and if we were to have a competition without the salary cap, a competition based on pure purchasing power, then a few of our clubs, a small number, would be in a position to buy the best players," Gallop said. "We would have a lopsided competition and ultimately clubs would be under financial pressure to survive." And he received unanimous support from club chief executives.

if we ever get to a state like that, the game will die very quickly

its like one of those school sports days where they still give the kid who finishes last a trophy and everyone is a winner.

You see thats not really sport is it, sport is pitting yourself against the best and seeing where you come, and competing even if you lose, whereas it seems to you the sport is secondary, as long as once every few years someone gives you a trophy and pats you on the head, id feel sorry for you if you were real

Need a % of turnover rule to ensure survival that's all.

he is probably still embarrassed about giving away the TV rights for a knock down price,



and shock horror, man who signs paychecks likes lower wages, i would never ever have guessed that, i never would have guessed that the only people to benefit from the salary cap would come out in favour of it

Quote ="dally messenger"they didnt win the minor premiership this year. '" www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 14,00.html Oh dear oh dear oh dear...

Quote ="dally messenger"they didnt win the minor premiership this year. '" www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 14,00.html Oh dear oh dear oh dear...

nah i was wrong, the storm did win the minor prem. this year on for and against.

still doesnt change anything.

www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2005/oc ... gue.sport2 We believe the cap has delivered a distribution of playing talent which wasn't there prior to its implementation," Gallop said. "The benefits have been that fans of every club can turn up to the footy with a well-founded expectation that their team is a chance of winning. A competition where purchasing power is the determining factor is bound to be predictable. No one likes to know the end of the movie, and no one wants to go to a sport with the feeling that the result is a foregone conclusion." The salary cap is taking longer to deliver results to Super League, with St Helens, Bradford and Leeds - the only clubs to have contested the World Club Challenge over the past six seasons, against six different opponents - again battling for the right to face the Tigers next year. But Hull's Challenge Cup win represents progress, with the cap starting to restrict heavyweights to such an extent that Wigan failed to reach the play-offs.

www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2005/oc ... gue.sport2 We believe the cap has delivered a distribution of playing talent which wasn't there prior to its implementation," Gallop said. "The benefits have been that fans of every club can turn up to the footy with a well-founded expectation that their team is a chance of winning. A competition where purchasing power is the determining factor is bound to be predictable. No one likes to know the end of the movie, and no one wants to go to a sport with the feeling that the result is a foregone conclusion." The salary cap is taking longer to deliver results to Super League, with St Helens, Bradford and Leeds - the only clubs to have contested the World Club Challenge over the past six seasons, against six different opponents - again battling for the right to face the Tigers next year. But Hull's Challenge Cup win represents progress, with the cap starting to restrict heavyweights to such an extent that Wigan failed to reach the play-offs.

some sports have introduced a salary cap.

you might not agree with a salary cap but the RFL have one in place.

its inevitable its effects will soon be felt on the strong clubs, like it or not.

saints dominated for a long time, it looks like they are coming back to the field.

bradford were doing the same, theyve come back to the field.

leeds SL success is still recent. they too will soon start to fall.

hopefully a new club will rise up to take the glory.

Hull FC, Wigan, warrington and les cats cleary are the clubs most likely.

thats from 4 years ago, and since then nothing has changed, but yes very good evidence of your point

it has in the NRL.

and 4 years ago it was bradford and saints the strong clubs.

bradford have sunk now, saints are looking at following.

leeds have their moment now though.

4 years ago not many clubs were spending the full cap.

enjoy the next 2 years.

when? surely after 10 years we should be seeing some effect? but we arent because it doesnt do that



when was this? the SL title has rotated between those three clubs for the past 9 seasons (guess what next year will be the 10th season of SC) in that time Leeds have won 3 title, Bradford have won 3, and St helens have won 3, and in that time only Leeds have retained it, none of them have dominated



so the rich clubs then, and this is evidence of the SC helping small clubs compete how?