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| Quote ="dally messenger"www.throng.com.au/state-origin/monster-ratings-state-origin-decider
this shows where the money will come from in future for a PNG NRL team
outrated the AFL GF lol'"
yeah dally messenger......whatever you say
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| Quote ="gutterfax"yeah dally messenger......whatever you say
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You live in union land though GF.
Of course the nrl deal will match afl's.
Of course ceo's of nrl clubs who are losing money hand over fist will want to give any spare cash to start a png side, because they really care about international rl.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"You live in union land though GF.'"
Not for long though according to the NRL brains trust that is dally messenger.
The new TV deal will destroy New Zealand Rugby Union
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Not for long though according to the NRL brains trust that is dally messenger.
The new TV deal will destroy New Zealand Rugby Union
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Jeeeez is Dally still posting crap?
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"Jeeeez is Dally still posting crap?
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Yep...but not on the NRL boards for some strange reason.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"This very argument was used by the OP in this very thread. Same OP who starts with the insults when anyone dares to question the validity of his claims.
'" Him being an idiot and arguing his point poorly doesnt mean his argument is wrong.
Quote Yes, it could. I never said it couldn't, but I still say that PNG and its Government should achieve the targets set it by the international groups that provide it with aid before anyone thinks about putting an NRL team in.'" Why? There seems to be no discernable link between these two things. Many many countries receive aid and targets, India for one. But it didnt mean they were incapable of hosting the IPL or Commonwealth games, nor that these sports werent good for India.
Quote In your opinion maybe.......and I don't disagree in principle, but you are moving away from facts and now dealing in fiction.'" So in what way is it fiction?
Quote Let's look at the GDP shall we. That's a serious wedge......I wonder where it's all going? The average income of the 6.5 million + citizens of PNG is under US$1,000 year........I wonder why there are no roads, decent hospitals, educational establishments for all....surely it is the responsibility of the Governement to supply these, but somehow, this GDP od 15 Billion is slipping through the net. Could it be that international investors ensure they make a fortune with the help of a few politicians.'"
Probably, though im not sure, in principle how that is different from any other country. The UK and the billions squirreled away by Vodafone immediately springs to mind. And im sure those international investors will be among the first to join in with the sponsorship of a PNG NRL side. It makes them look good.
Quote Nope...but we are talking about a nation that is violent as well as being third world when it comes to infastructure, healthcare, education, communications etc.....we are not talking about a country where those things are not an issue.'" But it isnt as violent as Brazil and is only as violent as Russia, these countries do have issues with infrastructure, healthcare education, communications etc, go to a favela in Sao Paolo and tell me it isnt a third world country, look at the amazon basin and tell me it isnt third world.
Quote BTW....on the Russia front. I have a mate who freelances in Outside Broadcasting. He has been all over the world, covering major events.....and he says the most harrowing and frustrating job was the Champions League final between United and Chelsea. He did the Commonwealth games, which he described as brilliant and luxurious when compared to getting his rig to Moscow..........the security in Russia was the tightest he has ever witnessed and that includes 3 Olympic games and 2 winter olympics, an asian games and the IPL Cricket.
So as you asked, I wouldn't want an ESL team in Russia either
'" And this was much much bigger than any NRL game. And it was hosted with barely a problem.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA":347ne4n3<snip>'" debate with you pal.
Bottom line is we will agree to disagree. You think PNG is ready for an NRL team and that team will sort out some of that countries problems, I on the other hand think you're wrong.
BTW....The Bill for the Insurance on 5 Outside Broadcast Rigs transported to Russia for The Champions League Final there cost in excess of 3 million pounds. Each rig is worth over 48 million and they had a russian army escort from the Finnish border to moscow and back......as I said, I wouldn't want ESL putting a team there (unless they leave stevo and wiggy there)
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| Could/would players be expected to live there?
Or would they train and live in northern Australia and fly in for games?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Could/would players be expected to live there?'"
Don't be daft
If you read this thread from the start you will see that there are already 1.2 million registered players in PNG and the PNG team would be drawn fom these. They would live there and probably get about $20,000 a year for being a pro RL player......at least it's more than Billy Slater earns in a week (isn't it?)
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| the problem with the NRL is we have too many places that need a team ASAP, thats whats holding back PNG.
In australia perth, central coast and probably 3 more queensland teams are an absolute must.
NZ really needs at least 1 more team, id go two if the finances were good.
and then theres PNG and even Adelaide..
the SL war lessened the apetitie for expansion, espeically to the more exotic places
However with the NRL salary cap set to rise to $6 - 7 million backed by TV grants the situation down the track will change dramactically.
we are looking at our next TV deal being $1 - $1.5 billion comapred to $500 million now
then when we add 2 out of perth, central coast and brisbane well get another massive increase next time
so by the next TV contract the landscape will be ripe for PNG IF they get their bid sorted out
the priority now is getting the salary cap up so we keep our elite players and even raid the union ranks again plus expand to the "easy" places
come 2020 NZ II and PNG would be quite ready for admittance to the nrl which would take us to a whole new level obliterating our domestic competitots
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| Quote ="dally messenger"which would take us to a whole new level obliterating our domestic competitots'"
or maybe it's
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| Back on thread.
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| They should ditch the talk of an NRL bid for now and instead concentrate on what is more likely within the next 20years. the start of the national academy league is a great start and linking it to school attendance will be a great national benefit. Then they should be developing a stadium so they can host more Internation games and eventually NRL games. They should be lobbying the Australian Govt to make it easier for Jnr PNG players to get working visas in Oz and be aiming for a sustainable Q'land cup team. NRL should have some salary cap expemptions for PNG players signing to Oz clubs. Throw in more decent games for the kumuls and sorting out the mess that they have with who is actually running the game in PNG and they will be well on the way to taking the NRL opportunity if it ever comes up. Paying the Brisbane Broncos $250k to get their bid logo on the shorts isn't exactly a good investment imo!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"They should ditch the talk of an NRL bid for now and instead concentrate on what is more likely within the next 20years. the start of the national academy league is a great start and linking it to school attendance will be a great national benefit. Then they should be developing a stadium so they can host more Internation games and eventually NRL games. They should be lobbying the Australian Govt to make it easier for Jnr PNG players to get working visas in Oz and be aiming for a sustainable Q'land cup team. NRL should have some salary cap expemptions for PNG players signing to Oz clubs. Throw in more decent games for the kumuls and sorting out the mess that they have with who is actually running the game in PNG and they will be well on the way to taking the NRL opportunity if it ever comes up. Paying the Brisbane Broncos $250k to get their bid logo on the shorts isn't exactly a good investment imo!'"
you asked me 3 months ago to predict out TV deal and when i said 1 billion you scoffed it.
i think you should know by now just to listen more to someone who has been following the australian game for 30 years
a PNG NRL team is a matter of time
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| Quote ="dally messenger"you asked me 3 months ago to predict out TV deal and when i said 1 billion you scoffed it.'"
what was it? Did I miss the announcement? All I have seen so far is the RL press bigging themselves up......after the AFL got a shed load of cash.
Quote ="dally messenger"i think you should know by now just to listen more to someone who has been following the australian game for 30 years'"
as against someone who works in the game? Yeah...right
Quote ="dally messenger"a PNG NRL team is a matter of time'"
Nobody has ever said PNG wont ever get a team......but if you are saying PNG will be in the NRL by 2020 as you have already n this thread, you are off your rocker.
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| I can't see why not gf, the tv deal has gone from 1-1.2 billion to 1-1.5biliion in days!
Png will have a side by the end of the season.
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| really interesting reading whar aussie nrl fans have to say on this subject and taking out the spam
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www.postcourier.com.pg/20110701/sport05.htm
"The PNG NRL BID and the PNGRFL launched the nationwide junior development program yesterday, aimed at developing the youth of the nation through rugby league and education."
"Talented individuals will then be chosen for development camps in PNG and with the Brisbane Broncos. We have also approached the Queensland Rugby League about a PNG side competing in the U16 and U18 State League competition in 2012.”
Excellent news for the development of the game.
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"The PNG NRL BID and the PNGRFL launched the nationwide junior development program yesterday, aimed at developing the youth of the nation through rugby league and education."
"Talented individuals will then be chosen for development camps in PNG and with the Brisbane Broncos. We have also approached the Queensland Rugby League about a PNG side competing in the U16 and U18 State League competition in 2012.”
Excellent news for the development of the game.
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| This one's interestong too.
Julian O'Neill lives in PNG and plays for one of the Digitel Cup sides. Even though we're told no one from Australia would ever dare move to PNG.
[urlhttp://www.postcourier.com.pg/20110708/sport03.htm[/url
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| after a stint at widnes....png is nothing lol
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| Oh well if Captain Sensible lives there then it must be fine.
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| Quote ="ECT"This one's interestong too.
Julian O'Neill lives in PNG and plays for one of the Digitel Cup sides. Even though we're told no one from Australia would ever dare move to PNG.
[urlhttp://www.postcourier.com.pg/20110708/sport03.htm[/url'"
Who said no one from Australia would ever dare move to PNG?
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| The bloke who trawls news sites and now even blogs to try and find evidence of crime in PNG and thinks this somehow proves they can't or won't have an NRL side.
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| Quote ="ECT"The bloke who trawls news sites and now even blogs to try and find evidence of crime in PNG and thinks this somehow proves they can't or won't have an NRL side.'"
Sorry. Who said no one from Australia would ever dare move to PNG?
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