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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Bring in Brown purely for his understanding with Brough, Sinfield at 9 Robinson on the bench'"
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| England 22-man squad: Ryan Atkins (lack of other options, lack of imagination in selection or lack of form? id say a combination of all three), Chris Bridge (doesnt really do it for me, but dependable), Tom Briscoe (without a doubt), Danny Brough (without a doubt), Garreth Carvell (well deserved, in form), Eorl Crabtree (without a doubt), Leroy Cudjoe (has yet to do anything useful in an england shirt, but worth a shout), James Graham (always gives everything for england, a definate selection), Ryan Hall (despite the anti hall bandwagon he is the best winger around over the past couple of years), Jamie Jones-Buchanan (WTF!!??? nuff said), Adrian Morley (always gives his all), Richard Myler (WTF!!?? lomax anyone?), Sean O'Loughlin (one of those who is repeatedly selected but always fails to impress or is outright gash against quality teams like Oz and NZ), Jamie Peacock (WTF!!?? play some more games first, and then we will see), Luke Robinson (without a doubt), James Roby (without a doubt), Michael Shenton (Briscoe, hall,J tomkins, S tomkins, bridge, shenton leaves no room for ryan atkins in the three quarters or the bench IMO, just dont see a place for atkins to be honest), Kevin Sinfield (picked on form? not a chance), Joel Tomkins (going well at centre and can always play in the pack if need be. worth his spot), Sam Tomkins (without a doubt), Ben Westwood (how many goal kickers do you really need?), Jon Wilkin (not setting the world alight but solid all season)
I would also agree that Brown should be in there.
im also well aware that come the four nations sinfield wont be playing 6, Widdop no doubt will be. sinfield is in because he can cover several positions and will most likely be at 13 come the 4 nations.
just my thoughts on the 22 man squad.
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| Quote ="Code13"Seems everyone has forgotten Luke Robinson was one of Englands few players to perform well in the 4N, his form is good again this season and yet he is overlooked by almost all team selections.
People complain that we are picking the same old and then leave out one face that showed he can step up.
Robbo and Roby in at 9 and interchange.'"
I think you are missing out Lunt, too. The fact he is in the Knights squad, bemuses me even further.
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| Roby will be out for the Exiles game.
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| I think it should practically an England 'A' side myself.
The full side won't get any real benefit, nor will the game as a whole.
For development purposes I'd much rather see England playing the French or Welsh full test sides.
Looking back to the last 4N it was individual erros that cost England, that's not necessarily skills coaching but concentration and mental focus which should be drilled into players from an early age.
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| As A rovers fan I have no interest in the game at all now. Welham & Yeaman should be in there on pure form alone. If they are not picked then they should give up any pretence that form is a criteria. There are arguments for picking club combinations to work together but picking players to play out of position ahead of specilaists ie Sinfield at No 6 or 9 or Joel Tompkins at centre, he would be OK as back row player who could drop into the if there is an injury in the course of play but he would not get into the side ahead of other better back row forwards. Also why is Ben Galea & Micheal Dobson not even in the frame for the exiles ? At least Rovers will have a full week to prepare for leeds with no disruption so at least I can take some comfort there & can do somthing else Friday as I wont be watching the match.
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| Quote ="Hartster"I think it should practically an England 'A' side myself.'"
in a ideal world the 'A' side (knights) should be playing either wales or france as a curtain rasier to fridays game
Quote ="Hartster"The full side won't get any real benefit, nor will the game as a whole.'"
quite the opposite actually the full side will benefit loads from having a tough battle rather than a half d hit out against france
Quote ="Hartster"For development purposes I'd much rather see England playing the French or Welsh full test sides.'"
development for who? the full england side have gained nothing in hammering the french mid season the past 3-4 years....we are penciled in to play them at the end of the season,it gives us a hit out before the 4 nations and the french are likely to be at full strength,injuries permitting...a win/win for both sides...french are also gonna play the knights,scotland & samoa iirc...the french will learn far more about their game in those series of games than they would sticking out a half strength side mid season against england .
Quote ="Hartster"Looking back to the last 4N it was individual erros that cost England, that's not necessarily skills coaching but concentration and mental focus which should be drilled into players from an early age.'"
i think what alot of people are also forgetting is the injuries we got while on tour...
i think we are heading in the right direction in regards to the players.....whats letting us down is McNamara...in fact i'd sack him and give the job to nathan brown
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| Exiles 18-man squad announced:
Buderus, T Leuluai, Anderson, Carmont, Chase, Fa’alogo, Faiumu, Fitzgibbon, Hodgson, King, K Leuluai, Manu, Meli, Morrison, O’Meley, Puletua, Richards, Soliola
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| This would be the team I'd pick, from that:
Hodgson
King
Meli
Carmont
Richards
Chase
T Leuluai
O'Meley
Buderus
K Leuluai
Soliola
Manu
Fitzgibbon
Fa'alogo
Manu
Morrison
Faiumu
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| Wow England are in for it aint they :O
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| england can't win in the eyes of some no matter what the score...
we win.....and it's against a team of aging has beens
we loss....and its hahaha you lost to a team of aging has beens
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| England have called up Michael McIlorum for Friday's match against the Exiles. The Wigan hooker replaces the injured James Roby.
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"england can't win in the eyes of some no matter what the score...
we win.....and it's against a team of aging has beens
we loss....and its hahaha you lost to a team of aging has beens'"
You're talking about English rugby league fans. The most negative combination imaginable.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"England have called up Michael McIlorum for Friday's match against the Exiles. The Wigan hooker replaces the injured James Roby.'"
surely that means robinson & sinfield @ 7&6 then
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"england can't win in the eyes of some no matter what the score...
we win.....and it's against a team of aging has beens
we loss....and its hahaha you lost to a team of aging has beens'"
Yeah i see what you mean there,for me theres no point even playing international as we only get let down each and every world cup/test,s etc.
Ohh well its worth the watch of a rugby match i supose.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"You're talking about English rugby league fans. The most negative combination imaginable.'"
You mean the type who saying we are crying out for a game against a non-England eligible side. Who subsequently bemoan the fact when it occurs, decrying the squad selection, too?
Nah, you're way off.
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"england can't win in the eyes of some no matter what the score...
we win.....and it's against a team of aging has beens
we loss....and its hahaha you lost to a team of aging has beens'"
This squad has an average age under 30 and a total of over 200 international caps between them
If England win this game it will be a good result
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| my thoughts exactly
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"This would be the team I'd pick, from that:
Hodgson
King
Meli
Carmont
Richards
Chase
T Leuluai
O'Meley
Buderus
K Leuluai
Soliola
Manu
Fitzgibbon
Fa'alogo
Manu
Morrison
Faiumu'"
No Puletua? They only have 3 props as it is?
Fa'alongo & Puletua to start, Leuluai bench, Soliola or Morrison 18th man.
I can only assume Steve Menzies & Michael Monaghan have knocks or gave word that they didn't want to play this. That or Brian McLennan is a Kiwi...
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| Quote ="craigizzard"No Puletua? They only have 3 props as it is?
Fa'alongo & Puletua to start, Leuluai bench, Soliola or Morrison 18th man.
I can only assume Steve Menzies & Michael Monaghan have knocks or gave word that they didn't want to play this. That or Brian McLennan is a Kiwi...'"
Whoops, I missed him. He can play instead of Morrison then.
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| Quote ="Dunbar"This squad has an average age under 30 and a total of over 200 international caps between them
If England win this game it will be a good result'"
Reason, fact and logic have no place on here. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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| England will get smashed.
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| 1. Cudjoe 2. Hall 3. Bridge 4. Shenton 5. Briscoe 6. Sinfield 7. S Tomkins 8. Morley 9. Robinson 10. Graham 11. Peacock 12. Westwood 13. O'Loughlin
14. McIllorum 15. J Tomkins 16. Crabtree 17. Carvell
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| Quote ="Pinkerton"1. Cudjoe 2. Hall 3. Bridge 4. Shenton 5. Briscoe 6. Sinfield 7. S Tomkins 8. Morley 9. Robinson 10. Graham 11. Peacock 12. Westwood 13. O'Loughlin
14. McIllorum 15. J Tomkins 16. Crabtree 17. Carvell'"
Not a bad team i guess!!
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| Quote ="Pinkerton"1. Cudjoe 2. Hall 3. Bridge 4. Shenton 5. Briscoe 6. Sinfield 7. S Tomkins 8. Morley 9. Robinson 10. Graham 11. Peacock 12. Westwood 13. O'Loughlin
14. McIllorum 15. J Tomkins 16. Crabtree 17. Carvell'"
Not one Huddersfield fan would put Cudjoe at full back and we watch him every week
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