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| Quote ="Theboyem"Whats the 'falsities' there?
In effect he is saying theres no need to build a stadium there, they can play at ours. Not helpful, not necessary and not likely to be happening anytime soon. I'll say it again, he wasn't obliged to say anything but he couldn't help himself. He should have declined to comment.'"
Why should he decline to comment? Truth too damaging?
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Why should he decline to comment? Truth too damaging?'"
Probably not, as I believe we can counter it by proving playing at GH isn't vialble for WT. But if he gets off on trying to damage other clubs progress rather concentrating on his own club then he's a sad individual.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Probably not, as I believe we can counter it by proving playing at GH isn't vialble for WT. But if he gets off on trying to damage other clubs progress rather concentrating on his own club then he's a sad individual.'"
Look, it's a business.
We've seen it recently with regard to the supermarket application on WR. One company will object to another doing something if this threatens their long term future.
And the if I were you I wouldn't worry about RW's letter - there are MUCH bigger obstacles to NM than this.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"[uLook, it's a business. [/u
We've seen it recently with regard to the supermarket application on WR. [u One company will object to another doing something if this threatens their long term future. [/u
And the if I were you I wouldn't worry about RW's letter - there are MUCH bigger obstacles to NM than this.'"
So you agree then RW and Cas are trying to assist the objectors and de-rail NM.
Nice one.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"So you agree then RW and Cas are trying to assist the objectors and de-rail NM.
Nice one.'"
Yes, I agree that this is the intention.
At first I thought RW was responding to a request from the decision-making body, but it seems he (and by default Cas) are actually providing information to support those objecting to Newmarket.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Look, it's a business.
We've seen it recently with regard to the supermarket application on WR. One company will object to another doing something if this threatens their long term future.
And the if I were you I wouldn't worry about RW's letter - there are MUCH bigger obstacles to NM than this.'"
Not that I'm adding my opinion to the "is he/isn't he trying to derail Newmarket" b*tchfest, but this isn't just "business" if he is. The idea that he can derail another club in an attempt to benefit his license bid is daft. The RFL pick who goes in the league remember. I'm pretty sure they won't be too keen to pick clubs that sabotage others.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Yes, I agree that this is the intention.
At first I thought RW was responding to a request from the decision-making body, but it seems he (and by default Cas) are actually providing information to support those objecting to Newmarket.'"
And do you agree with their decision to do this?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13" I'm pretty sure they won't be too keen to pick clubs that sabotage others.'"
And nobody is doing that, Wright was asked if Wakefield refused to take part in a feasibility study, which they did and was also asked if they would be able to play at Glasshoughton, which he also confirmed.
He did nothing wrong, and it will in no way have any effect on the outcome, there are much bigger issues with the whole development than the fact Glasshoughton is an option for Wakefield.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Look, it's a business.
We've seen it recently with regard to the supermarket application on WR. One company will object to another doing something if this threatens their long term future.
And the if I were you I wouldn't worry about RW's letter - there are MUCH bigger obstacles to NM than this.'"
But if RW is so confident about GH why the need to interfere, it wouldn't have any effect on Cas?
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| Quote ="Gronk!"And nobody is doing that, Wright was asked if Wakefield refused to take part in a feasibility study, which they did and was also asked if they would be able to play at Glasshoughton, which he also confirmed.
He did nothing wrong, and it will in no way have any effect on the outcome, there are much bigger issues with the whole development than the fact Glasshoughton is an option for Wakefield.'"
Why did they ask ,and why did he answer
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| Quote ="Theboyem"But if RW is so confident about GH why the need to interfere, it wouldn't have any effect on Cas?'"
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| Quote ="Theboyem"But if RW is so confident about GH why the need to interfere, it wouldn't have any effect on Cas?'"
GH is pie in the sky. This letter almost gives the game away. He doesn't want Wakefield to get a new stadium because it will put them in a stronger position than Castleford in a few years time.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"And nobody is doing that, Wright was asked if Wakefield refused to take part in a feasibility study, which they did and was also asked if they would be able to play at Glasshoughton, which he also confirmed.
He did nothing wrong, and it will in no way have any effect on the outcome, there are much bigger issues with the whole development than the fact Glasshoughton is an option for Wakefield.'"
Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Yes, I agree that this is the intention.
At first I thought RW was responding to a request from the decision-making body, but it seems he (and by default Cas) are actually providing information to support those objecting to Newmarket.'"
I wonder how i decide who is nearer the truth and who can think for himself, one of you is towing the party line.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"And do you agree with their decision to do this?'"
From a moral high-horse point of view - no.
From a sensible business point of view - yes.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"GH is pie in the sky. This letter almost gives the game away. He doesn't want Wakefield to get a new stadium because it will put them in a stronger position than Castleford in a few years time.'"
Won't make any difference. If both clubs have failed to get new stadiums, BOTH will be out, they'll be no choosing. Theres no last chances left.
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| An egregious act by a pathetic and desperate man, that has brought shame on himself and by association, his club.
Decent Cas fans will be hanging their heads; not Gronk though, he's the Cas version of the Iraqi Minister of Information.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Won't make any difference. If both clubs have failed to get new stadiums, BOTH will be out, they'll be no choosing. Theres no last chances left.'"
Agreed. Cas would be better supporting NM and groundsharing if it is successful until (if) GH is built.
WTW would be better, if NM fails, to groundshare with Cas until a (another) suitable alternative is found.
The phone conversation should go:
RW: "Look, we'll support you fully with NM, on the basis that if you are successful we can groundshare for a couple of years until GH is built"
AG: "Thanks. If NM does collapse, we would like to groundshare at GH when (if) it is built, until we can find another alternative."
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"RW: "Look, we'll support you fully with NM, on the basis that if you are successful we can groundshare for a couple of years until GH is built"'"
I suspect that given RW's latest master-stroke, the NM ship has sailed where Cas are concerned.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I suspect that given RW's latest master-stroke, the NM ship has sailed where Cas are concerned.'"
Agreed, it's what [ishould[/i have happened though.
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| Why they can't just groundshare a tidy 15,000 seater stadium in Normanton I'll never know. 18,000 and you'd both make money off Challenge Cup semis and England A games.
Can't we all just get along?
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| Quote ="Wheels"Can't we all just get along?'"
Wakefield had the chance and both teams would be in the stadium by now, but they rejected the feasibility study the council proposed.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Why they can't just groundshare a tidy 15,000 seater stadium in Normanton I'll never know. 18,000 and you'd both make money off Challenge Cup semis and England A games.
Can't we all just get along?'"
Who's building said stadium in Normanton?
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| Quote ="Wheels"Why they can't just groundshare a tidy 15,000 seater stadium in Normanton I'll never know. 18,000 and you'd both make money off Challenge Cup semis and England A games.
Can't we all just get along?'"
Cas would have had the option to share at NM - the tidy stadium you describe, situated just off the M62 and equidistant between Wakey and Cas.
I think Tricky Dicky has scuppered that one though, given that he's just made CRTLFC an objector to the planning permission.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Wakefield had the chance and both teams would be in the stadium by now, but they rejected the feasibility study the council proposed.'"
WTF? what a load of made up rubbish, who the hell would be paying for this stadium. Whereas there is a stadium that will get built to no cost of both clubs if it gets bast this PI but you lot have been just as resistant to the idea as us . If we jumped on board GH it still won't be built any quicker would it?
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| Quote ="bren2k"Cas would have had the option to share at NM - the tidy stadium you describe, situated just off the M62 and equidistant between Wakey and Cas.
I think Tricky Dicky has scuppered that one though, given that he's just made CRTLFC an objector to the planning permission.'"
Cas were never going to play out of Newmarket
The Keepmoat on the other hand however...
Quote ="Shifty Cat"WTF? what a load of made up rubbish, who the hell would be paying for this stadium.'"
The £4m the council offered would have covered the shortfall from Ben Bailey homes, meaning Castleford Tigers RLFC and the WMDC would have paid, meaning Wakefield would have only had to pay rent.
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