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| Quote ="Pinkerton"I guess it shows the RFL don't have the balls to kick anyone out. But then you have to wonder why they decided to go down the franchising route, then.'"
Sl will remain at 14 clubs,they said this on tv last year.
One club will go up and one club will go down,why are people struggling to grasp this fact.
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| Quote ="j.c"Sl will remain at 14 clubs,they said this on tv last year.
One club will go up and one club will go down,why are people struggling to grasp this fact.'"
Technically, two could come up and two go down but yes, the RFL have stated it is staying at 14 clubs and yet people still question it.
I think the RFL need to invest in some light aircraft to travel the distance of the M62, pulling along with them messages that the fans need reminding of like "14 teams". And a loud speaker in a vehicle going through the towns of the north shouting the rules like the muslim call to prayer. It's only by constant and intrusive reminders that we can know what is going on!
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Technically, two could come up and two go down but yes, the RFL have stated it is staying at 14 clubs and yet people still question it.
I think the RFL need to invest in some light aircraft to travel the distance of the M62, pulling along with them messages that the fans need reminding of like "14 teams". And a loud speaker in a vehicle going through the towns of the north shouting the rules like the muslim call to prayer. It's only by constant and intrusive reminders that we can know what is going on!'"
That was quite good for you Chris , I managed a little ' chuckle ' at that ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="freddies wig"They "enrich" the sport with their 50 away fans, & vast empty terraces when live on sky sports,,,,,'"
Not a Salford fan then eh ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"It is categorical, it categorically states that at this time the the league will stay at 14 clubs and the RFL are planning on the basis that there will be 14 clubs. They dont address any other possibility.
They have told us there will be 14 clubs, are working on the basis there will be 14 clubs, if something changes they will let us know. It is the only sensible thing for them to do, why you feel the need to find fault with it is beyond me.'"
There is no documentation produced that says SL WILL remain at 14 clubs. If there were then that would be categorical.
Use of the term 'at this stage' suggests a state of flux. Nothing is fixed.
Here's the full question and answer for you from the RFL site.
Will a Super League club be “displaced”?
At this stage the Super League will remain at 14 clubs in 2012. If a Championship Club meets the minimum criteria and the Super League competition remains at 14 clubs, a Super League club will be displaced.
Is that clear enough for you?
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Technically, two could come up and two go down but yes, the RFL have stated it is staying at 14 clubs and yet people still question it.
I think the RFL need to invest in some light aircraft to travel the distance of the M62, pulling along with them messages that the fans need reminding of like "14 teams". And a loud speaker in a vehicle going through the towns of the north shouting the rules like the muslim call to prayer. It's only by constant and intrusive reminders that we can know what is going on!'"
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| Quote ="Hartster"[size=150At this stage [/sizethe Super League will remain at 14 clubs in 2012. If a Championship Club meets the minimum criteria and the Super League competition remains at 14 clubs, a Super League club will be displaced.
Is that clear enough for you?'"
You're so right.
"At this stage......................." i am 5ft 2", have a pot belly, i'm balding and as fit as a sloth and probably couldn't even attract Kath Hetherington to my bed
However .......................................
With a little surgery, one or two transplants and a few visits to the gym all that could all change. Whilst Dickie Lewis announces an expanded league of 16 i'll be kicking Karolina Kurkova out of my bed. ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="Hartster"There is no documentation produced that says SL WILL remain at 14 clubs. If there were then that would be categorical.
Use of the term 'at this stage' suggests a state of flux. Nothing is fixed.
Here's the full question and answer for you from the RFL site.
Will a Super League club be “displaced”?
At this stage the Super League will remain at 14 clubs in 2012. If a Championship Club meets the minimum criteria and the Super League competition remains at 14 clubs, a Super League club will be displaced.
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No 'at this stage' doesnt suggest a state of flux. It only suggests a state of flux to an idiot trying to push a nonsense agenda they no deep down there is no justification for.
'at this stage' suggests that unless something changes this is the plan, if something changes which warrants a re-evaluation of the plan we will do the only sensible thing and re-evaluate the situation. Im not sure why you would want them to do anything else. Im not sure why you want the to say the league is staying at 14 regardless of what happens and regardless of any changes which would mean a change in the size of the league would be clearly beneficial. It is a ridiculous standpoint.
Quote Is that clear enough for you?'" Yes, im perfectly happy with the statement. It is apparently, however, not clear enough for you.
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| Never say never eh Smokey? When are you going to buy that Fax season ticket? ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="freddies wig"To put a certain welsh team into super league. A team who, if playing to the same rules as all the other clubs and playing to the laws of the land, would never have made it under their own steam!
But don't question it. They "enrich" the sport with their [u50 away fans[/u, vast empty terraces when live on sky sports, constant financial problems and nomadic existence. Franchising = good'"
Thats still about 25 more than Harlequins
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| What's intrigueing me at the moment is the way that Sky are banging on about Halifax being qualified for SL. Are they dropping hints?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"No 'at this stage' doesnt suggest a state of flux. It only suggests a state of flux to an idiot trying to push a nonsense agenda they no deep down there is no justification for.
'at this stage' suggests that unless something changes this is the plan, if something changes which warrants a re-evaluation of the plan we will do the only sensible thing and re-evaluate the situation. Im not sure why you would want them to do anything else. Im not sure why you want the to say the league is staying at 14 regardless of what happens and regardless of any changes which would mean a change in the size of the league would be clearly beneficial. It is a ridiculous standpoint.
Yes, im perfectly happy with the statement. It is apparently, however, not clear enough for you.'"
So it's not a categorical statement then? Thanks for clearing that up. Perhaps you could give me an idea as to the variables involved that have prevented the RFL from issuing a categorical statement that SL WILL remain at 14 clubs?
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"What's intrigueing me at the moment is the way that Sky are banging on about Halifax being qualified for SL. Are they dropping hints?'"
No , they are trying to make it sound more ' interesting ' than
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"What's intrigueing me at the moment is the way that Sky are banging on about Halifax being qualified for SL. Are they dropping hints?'"
We're not expecting to get in - unless we move to play in a MFI car park in edinburgh.
Great to see how the RFL are making preparing for next season so easy though, with Fax knowing which league they are and all eh? Just to make their "Licencing" games seem more intriguing!!! You fell for it buddy!
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| Quote ="freddies wig"
Great to see how the RFL are making preparing for next season so easy though, with Fax knowing which league they are and all eh? '"
Did the RFL force Fax to apply to play in a different league?
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| Quote ="tb"Did the RFL force Fax to apply to play in a different league?'"
The removal of automatic P&R forces Championship clubs who wish to play in a higher league to apply when previously they would not have had to do so.
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| Quote ="tb"Did the RFL force Fax to apply to play in a different league?'"
Yes.
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| Quote ="tb"Did the RFL force Fax to apply to play in a different league?'"
Jesus Christ, you really are a little star arent you?
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| Quote ="tb"Did the RFL force Fax to apply to play in a different league?'"
No they ' Encouraged ' them , because having only one club in the Championship pass criteria after 3 years is a pretty poor endictement of how things are in the Championships , and it helps to pretend that we are having an ' application ' process rather than an ' elimination ' process
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| Quote ="Hartster"The removal of automatic P&R forces Championship clubs who wish to play in a higher league to apply when previously they would not have had to do so.'"
And if we still had (semi) automatic P&R, Fax still wouldn't know which competition they're playing in next year. Nor would a number of other clubs (at both championship and SL level). And of course, Halifax are not alone in not knowing which league they're playing in next year.
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| Quote ="Hartster"The removal of automatic P&R forces Championship clubs who wish to play in a higher league to apply when previously they would not have had to do so.'"
Not quite correct, stadium criteria has been round for a while, i forget which but one of Dewsbury or Hunslet werent admitted at our expense one year cos the stadium wasnt up to speed
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| Quote ="tb"And if we still had (semi) automatic P&R, Fax still wouldn't know which competition they're playing in next year. Nor would a number of other clubs (at both championship and SL level). And of course, Halifax are not alone in not knowing which league they're playing in next year.'"
We would be in super league this year, want a link?
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| Quote ="Gahan"Not quite correct, stadium criteria has been round for a while, i forget which but one of Dewsbury or Hunslet werent admitted at our expense one year cos the stadium wasnt up to speed'"
That was around 98/99 IIRC. Has to be said however that even at that time there was no application process and the decision not to promote was made once it became clear who the champions were.
Bob McDermott was Dewsbury chairman at the time and couldn't afford a legal challenge to the ruling, think he was also chair of the APC which was the then umbrella body of the NFP clubs.
Fancy having a sponsor like Ford involved!!
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| Quote ="freddies wig"We would be in super league this year, want a link?'"
But the question wasn't "this year" was it? The question was what league would you be in "next year"?
You wouldn't know the answer.
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| Quote ="freddies wig"We're not expecting to get in '"
You are going to be suprised in July then
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