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| Quote ="Starbug":3tu9lm7y
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Toulouse should have been specifically told that they were going into SL in 2012 , and that they would play a full round of games in the Championship in 2011 to prepare , these games would not count on the 2011 chapionship season table and would be funded by the SL clubs , also their inclusion would not affect the inclusion of a Championship club moving up to SL in 2012
Not difficult , it just needed some bollox from the RFL'" :3tu9lm7y
now why would they play a full round of games to prepare? And funded by the SL clubs to help them prepare? surely not starry? Say it ain't so?'"
According to the chairman,he expects between 5000 - 8000 for home matches,hence the plans now going through for the redevelopment of Les Minimes - TO suffer (just like some uk teams) from having a very succesful RU team plus a decent football team - last seasons' game planning by the RFL (I assume) was a joke with many of the TO games clashing with big RU games - the Good Friday game was ridiculous as it's not a Bank Holiday as in the uk,hence the relatively small attendance.The corporate potential is big,the chairman is a well respected pillar of society (ex police cheif) and a real character who could charm the birds out of the trees.I can't see the investment as a big hurdle.Saying that,he is not the biggest payer so might struggle to get anything other than journeymen with an occasional 'big name' into any future SL squad.
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| This was the original post , it outlines an idea , one that would have been funded to SL levels allowing Toulouse to operate almost at the same level as the Catalans with a full time squad but playing for one season in the Championship , I made no provision for stadia or sponsorship IN SL as that was not the question
The only issue was funding , and I have highlighted where that would come from
Quote Toulouse should have been specifically told that they were going into SL in 2012 , and that they would play a full round of games in the Championship in 2011 to prepare , these games would not count on the 2011 chapionship season table and would =#FF0000be funded by the SL clubs , also their inclusion would not affect the inclusion of a Championship club moving up to SL in 2012
Not difficult , it just needed some bollox from the RFL'"
Once again you are insulting me , calling me ' narrow minded and a traditionalist ' , if that was the case why would I be suggesting Toulouse be included in SL in 2012 ?
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Once again you are insulting me , calling me ' narrow minded and a traditionalist ' , if that was the case why would I be suggesting Toulouse be included in SL in 2012 ?'"
sorry if you are insulted,please accept my apologies
don't have any problem with that mate but you contradict yourself by stating almost daily it seems that TO shouldn't be in the Championship,mainly cos' it's costing £250,000 to the detriment of the other C teams.Good news is that when TO are finally admitted into SL think of all that lovely dosh that will be saved and put back into the rest of the Championship ? except of course when another french LER club (probably FCL) are put in to replace TO !!!!
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| Why do we have constant suggestion about the necessity of a 2nd French side in SL in order to promote the French game and provide a local rivalry for the Catalans Dragons?
Auckland/New Zealand Warriors have been playing in the NRL for many years now and I've not heard a clamour for a 2nd NZ club to be placed in the NRL to provide a derby for the Warriors and promote NZ RL.
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| Quote ="Cecil B"Auckland/New Zealand Warriors have been playing in the NRL for many years now and I've not heard a clamour for a 2nd NZ club to be placed in the NRL to provide a derby for the Warriors and promote NZ RL.'"
Really? I have, several times.
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| Quote ="Cecil B"Why do we have constant suggestion about the necessity of a 2nd French side in SL in order to promote the French game and provide a local rivalry for the Catalans Dragons?
Auckland/New Zealand Warriors have been playing in the NRL for many years now and I've not heard a clamour for a 2nd NZ club to be placed in the NRL to provide a derby for the Warriors and promote NZ RL.'"
Possibly because it is a good idea , and given that the Catalans inclusion hasn't as yet noticably improved the French national side , then hopefully putting Toulouse in would , also we dont want them or any other French club in the Championships
The number of Kiwi eligable players in the NRL means there isn't the same need for a second NZ team in the NRL , although it would be a positive for NZ sport
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| Quote ="Starbug"Quote ="Cecil B"Why do we have constant suggestion about the necessity of a 2nd French side in SL in order to promote the French game and provide a local rivalry for the Catalans Dragons?
Auckland/New Zealand Warriors have been playing in the NRL for many years now and I've not heard a clamour for a 2nd NZ club to be placed in the NRL to provide a derby for the Warriors and promote NZ RL.'"
Possibly because it is a good idea , and given that the Catalans inclusion hasn't as yet noticably improved the French national side , then hopefully putting Toulouse in would , also we dont want them or any other French club in the Championships
The number of Kiwi eligable players in the NRL means there isn't the same need for a second NZ team in the NRL , although it would be a positive for NZ sport'"
i await sanjunien's arrival to tell you what a parochial flatcapper you are whilst at the same time applauding you for your vision of expansion.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Quote ="Cecil B"Why do we have constant suggestion about the necessity of a 2nd French side in SL in order to promote the French game and provide a local rivalry for the Catalans Dragons?
I don't think it's anything to do with 'local' rivalry - it's anything but 'local' with about 140 miles between them which isn't far off Hull v Crusaders at Wrexham which is hardly a 'local derby' is it ? There is always a pre-season game between the two but that's all.It's the RFL that seems to be wanting the second french SL team - apparently we come back to the old chestnut called 'expansion' :
Auckland/New Zealand Warriors have been playing in the NRL for many years now and I've not heard a clamour for a 2nd NZ club to be placed in the NRL to provide a derby for the Warriors and promote NZ RL.'"
Possibly because it is a good idea , and given that the Catalans inclusion hasn't as yet noticably improved the French national side , then hopefully putting Toulouse in would , also we dont want them or any other French club in the Championships
The number of Kiwi eligable players in the NRL means there isn't the same need for a second NZ team in the NRL , although it would be a positive for NZ sport'"
don't fall into the old trap of mixing the SL/club & international performances - the inclusion of arguably the best english players according to McBanana (some actually playing in the NRL !) representing England doesn't mean they will be successful : witness,the pathetic performances down under by the creme de la creme that is England ! they weren't even that convincing against PNG !
I can't see how TO in the SL will change much for Bobbie Goulding.
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| To answer the original question:
Rugby League is a credible sport in Yorkshire, Lancashire, Cumbria, a small part of France and Queensland / NSW.
Outside of those areas few people give a flying .
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| Quote ="The Video Ref"To answer the original question:
Rugby League is a credible sport in Yorkshire, Lancashire, Cumbria, a small part of France and Queensland / NSW.
Outside of those areas few people give a flying French Connection UK.'"
just about sums it up,doesn't it ?
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Yes that was my suggestion , that they play a season in the Championship to prepare for SL
So that would be one season , with results not counting in the Championship [ so as not to adversley effect the other clubs , allowing them to build a full time squad , and acclimatise themselves to the travelling needed
Yes they would have been able to make fans and potential sponsors aware of their impending SL entry '" So you can see the benefits of allowing a club to time to prepare for their entry to SL and your arguments against it you admit were, as you would say, Bollox!!
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Quote ="Starbug"
Yes that was my suggestion , that they play a season in the Championship to prepare for SL
So that would be one season , with results not counting in the Championship [ so as not to adversley effect the other clubs , allowing them to build a full time squad , and acclimatise themselves to the travelling needed
Yes they would have been able to make fans and potential sponsors aware of their impending SL entry '" So you can see the benefits of allowing a club to time to prepare for their entry to SL and your arguments against it you admit were, as you would say, Bollox!!'"
And so , 4 pages later we are back at the start
Quote =#FF000090 % of the preparation to enter SL is to become full time with regards playing and coaching staff , can you explain how this would not impact unfairly upon the other clubs in the Championship and adversly affect the competitiveness we currently have ? '"
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