Same as Saints ,Salford and Cas at the moment , none of them have them , or are likely to have them by january 2012

This is why Savills have been commissioned by the RFL to look at the credibility of all their plans now. It is safe to say Saints are fine, they are on site and their new ground is getting built, so Widnes is a 1 season option for them and unless they hit any problems, it will be fine. Wakefield, Cas and Salford are the three that are really being looked at closely!

They all have their big hurdles to cross, Wakefield have planning issues but do have the money, Cas have the planning but not yet enough money, Salford think they have the money, but as most of it belongs to the local authority that remains to be seen! The one that doesn't convince Savills and therefore the RFL will lose out!

At the same point 3 years ago the steelwork for 2 of the stands at the LSV was already in the ground , the RFL refused to acknowledge the LSV as available for the 2009 season despite it being 80 % complete in june 2008

Those hurdles you mention , even Saints are as big as the Himalayas

Noned of the 4 teams mentioned will play at their new stadiums at the start of the next licence period , none of them should even be considered , they should all be marked on their past/current ground

Not that it makes any difference as they are all old and decrepid , so in effect it evens them all out

I know what stadiums cost to hire sweetie. Get someone to explain to you how a phone works and then make a few calls



If you want to pretend that wakey's smart operators will get some bargain deal then dream on. If you want to pretend that renting a stadium + several offices + training and junior playing facilities will be cheaper than staying at BV...go ahead. If you want to pretend that hiring a ground out of town does not lead to losses in advertising, hospitality and attendances...go ahead. The propensity of you ,and those like you, to deny economic reality is sadly all too predictable. It is however very amusing.

I wonder if the cuts of funding to Local Councils announced today will scupper Salfords plans

You actually know how much stadiums cost to hire do you, fantastic

and you also know how to use a phone, forgive me but I was under the impression that you used jungle drums in upper cumberworth or marsden or wherever it is up there.
The only person on here with any pretentions is your good self trying to fanny us that you know all there is to know about hiring a stadium, first of all don't confuse me with somebody what gives a toss, and secondly it is only some of the Wakey fans assuming that it is an option to go to Oakwell and nothing more
than that, and lets assume that you are right then why would we want to train on their pitch all week and use their offices when we have them at BV you silly boy, you've had your 5mins now jog on before you embarass yourself and no insults either, your getting a bit boring now

Quite possibly and that is my point, although Peel are putting money in I understand that the council were initially footing the majority of the £20m and that the £10m that Peel were putting in was conditional and tied to some sort of rebate deal? I don't know the in's and out and I am speculating now but now things have changed it may change lots of things for Salford and the money.

What a confused person you are: you say you do not give a toss yet have repeatedly replied to my posts

Try and make your mind little man.

Where did I say you want to train on their pitch all week? Do try not to make up other people's posts it is a silly thing to do.

Judging by CVAs / IVAs / Winding up orders / unpaid players I assume your economic illiteracy is a wakefield thing.

Now chissitt do you reply and show that you actually do 'give a toss' or do you jog on

Hopefully it will be resolved on this coming Friday if everything goes our way, which the people that matter seem confident about but who knows what will happen. As for using another ground that is merely a contingency plan as far as I am aware for if the stadium gets a green light and the stadium is late on completion for the 2012 season assuming we get a franchise. Barnsley along with Leeds and Doncaster are grounds that are being discussed by fans as to which would be the most suitable and Oakwell seems the one most prefered by the fans, in this financial climate I would imagine any business man such as Mr Cryne would welcome any extra income no matter how small but who knows really.

What I said and what I meant was do not confuse me with somebody what gives a toss on your alleged knowledge about Wakey, you really need to brush up on your selective misquoting pet



Please see above quote from you thats assuming I have not made it up

it quite clearly states that you think its a silly thing to do by renting their facilities.

Btw it just goes to show what length you will go to by bringing up the clubs financial irregularities to hide the embarassment you are causing yourself on here, oh and fwiw my own personal economy is doing great thanks, its because I go to work something for you to think about as you grow up, in future years you will look back on this period of time and wished you had taken more notice of your teachers at school when all of your mates have got decent jobs.

And now I will jog on because I take no pleasure in you making yourself look a fool.

You do give a toss after all..hypocrite

Compelled to reply



You read what I wrote but do not have the brains to understand it. Where did I say you would want to train at 'Oakwell' all week? Please show me. If you move out of BV you will not be able to train there and be unable to play junior games there..so will need other facilities...do try and keep up



My references to wakey dreadful finances seems to cause you a little irritation. However the finances of a club are critical in the licence process. Wakey with recent winding up orders / Chairman's IVA etc appear to be the poorest in SL. All your huffing and puffing will not change that fact. This makes the economics of hiring a stadium even more precarious for wakey.

Your educational advice is so......deep. However it is not RL is it?

On the plus side there is every chance that from all the reserve grade players you are relying on in 2011 one may make a decent SL player.

Chissit mate, give up, Ceejames is clearly a troll and I have decided it is not worth the effort.

What makes it more interesting is I am party to the details of why HMRC submitted a winding up order on Wakefield and it has nothing to do with the previous issues, further more every club in RL should be worried and Hudds (along with many others) could be high on the list!

Can I help it if I am like a dung beetle drawn to a fresh pile of it





Still the same old swamp monster from upper marsden, you just cannot help yourself can you, it would not matter if you reinvented yourself as Jessie James or even his uncle Syd as soon as Wakey gets a mention here she comes spewing bile from her big gob, I'd love to say you've been missed

no honestly I would, but I would not want to give you the wrong idea

Your right, as usual mate. Trolls like her don't let facts from informed posters like you get in the way of them spouting drivel. The image rights situation with HMRC is going to be very interesting once trinity agree a sum and set a precedent.

IA she is an irritant, if I was kind I would say she is an itch you cannot reach, but as I have told her before although I cannot remember off hand who she was posting as at the time, she is like one of those floaters no matter how many times you flush it, it will not go away, this is all we need

So what's the latest re Quins?

We have very few fans, no reliable income stream, are shipping heaps of cash on a regular basis, rely on 1 mans money to prop us up and will finish in the bottom 3 again next year.
Good job we are the b'stard love child of Lewis and Murdoch........we will be in SL in 2012

Well I'd still boot you out on principle....

I'd merge the 2 hull clubs myself. Use the Hull from Hull KR ans the FC from Hull FC.....The white colour on the strip from KR and the Black from FC...
SIMPLEZ!

Yes and push away thousands of East Hull people...

Thank God you're not on the RFL board.

You might have to explain to him the phrase "thousands of people"

I'd merge Quins with the Crusaders and make you play in Bath or possibly Cheltenham.

And I accuse you of stealing jokes.

It is not trolling to point out some facts. As you suggested a stadium hire cost of £12k- £24K was not too bad i suspect you are 'off the pace' on these issues.

Thanks for pointing out that wakey face a second winding up order for a completely different problem...I am sure that will be cold comfort to their fans