Or a big black hole more like



Probably 90 % of all clubs debts will be to the directors , but the value of that ' equity ' will in 90 % of the cases be ZERO

And more importantly unsustainable long term

Gone down from £15 million to £10 million in the life of the thread. You have no credibility.

You assumed I supported a club with a poor ground! You can't even keep up with your own posts



Your assumption - like so much of your comments - is completely wrong.

If the situation is very different now, why not publish the 2009 accounts? Year end was a month ago and Hudgell has already declared the loss of £450,000 so the accounts must be ready. That would sort everything out.

the point is that the directors arent going to liquidate the club asking for their money back

owing money to creditors is something to be worried about

directors putting money in to build a competitive team isnt a thing to be worried about

i made the wrong assumption then

if youd read earlier on in the thread id praised huddersfield.

as much credibility as wakeys next franchise proposal then

But, I thought it was a stadium contest not a franchise application, your posts certainly imply that this is how you view it.

You, more than likely know little or nothing about Wakefield Trinity other than the fact that the ground is past it's sell by date. So what's your problem with Wakefield, did you once have a bad pint on the Westgate Run?

look ill simplify things for you :

1. quality of the stadium is one of the franchise criteria. for heartland clubs id say its very important
2. wakey only got in last time on the promise of a new ground which will not be met in the time the next lot of decisions are being met
3. to show it means business here letters were sent to all clubs that promised new stadiums. as the weakest club out of those that were sent letters, wakey will be booted out.

my problem with wakey is they are wasting a valuable SL spot. they cant sustain regular crowd growth, their ground is a dump and embarrasing on TV, they dont strengthen SL by challenging the top clubs regularly. also in their current ground they will never be able to challenge the top clubs either.

in their current state wakey are a waste of a SL spot and there are better contenders outside SL who deserve their shot at it.

indeed halifax and leigh if they get their acts together would merit a chance at SL once widnes get in over a club like wakey, or down the line even Cas.

So, as previously mentioned, other than the state of the ground you know little about Wakefield Trinity.

Short term , no , long term , probably yes , it most certainly is something to be worried about , any club , big or small that needs that amount of external input is at risk

Well that accounts for just about every club in the world of pro RL then!

and most Premier League Soccer teams too.

No you assumed that because somebody was disagreeing with some whimsical notion you made that they were biased in their opinion , you do it all the time , it shows your lack of knowledge and your stupidity

Yep , just think what strides the sport could make if we were to address that issue ?

OK, JBs comment then

all RL clubs in australia barring 2 lose money.

not many sporting clubs around the world make money do they.

your comments smack of a fantasy world with no real world relevance.

frankly id rather just be watching lord of the rings mate.

i find that arguing with stupid people all the time, you have to lower the agruments down to their level.

complicated arguments just go over their heads.

although i probably wouldn't even try to polish Dally to be honest

They are now taking legal action against the local media

I'm gobsmacked that GML hasn't petitioned for this thread to be closed. He's shut both of them on their site

He's seeking advice from the admins. Like, they're going to declare a profit for HKR ...........

no offence but i only prefer women polishing me.

but hey whatever floats your boat, good luck to you

Good grounds will attract new fans but it is success on the field that will maintain it. It is not bloody rocket science to know that if you can be under cover if it rains, can have a after a beer, have enough reasonably priced SEATS that some people wil be more inclined to go to a game.

In terms of away games i take my little ones to Hull / wigan but would never take them to cas or wakey or HKR as much as i enjoy going there.