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| Quote ="JonM"Superb, as always. You start spotting lots of folk in rugby gear and fancy dress miles away from Wembley and I didn't see a hint of anything my granny would disapprove of. Saw fans in the jerseys of every SL club (except Salford, oddly) and nearly all championship clubs. Also quite a number of French fans and at least a dozen in Welsh union club jerseys. I think the party mood was reflected in the friendliness of the stewards & police.'"
Just as it should be.
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| The Giants reminded me of the Bulls in 1997, just couldnt get out of 2nd gear.
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| Quote ="Cubby"Nothing from the refs? Are you on a wind up?'"
As far as I'm concerned the video ref decision to deny Lunt was as wrong as you'll see. That would have changed the course of the game as Hudds were on top and on a huge roll on at the time and could have run in a couple on the back of it.
There's also a strong case for the Hodgson try. Yes the runner hit a defender but he was simply running his line.
It's my opinion that Warrington got the more 50/50 decisions than Huddersfield. You might not agree. That's life.
Fwiw, Wire were the better side on the day and deserved the win. Hudds crucified themselves with errors and possible nerves and Wire played it perfectly for those 20 minutes.
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| Quote ="Cronus"There's also a strong case for the Hodgson try. Yes the runner hit a defender but he was simply running his line.'"
Since when was 'simply running his line' an excuse for obstruction? He was running his line, it was a poor line, it obstructed a defender.
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| Quote ="SBR"Since when was 'simply running his line' an excuse for obstruction? He was running his line, it was a poor line, it obstructed a defender.'"
I agree with you on the lunt one but this one was very very harsh.
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| Quote ="SBR"Since when was 'simply running his line' an excuse for obstruction? He was running his line, it was a poor line, it obstructed a defender.'"
All I said was there's a case for it. I've seen them given, I've seen them denied. This one was denied. Would the defender have prevented the try if unobstructed? Possibly - Briers had to adjust his defence when he was suddenly 1-on-1. Probably the correct decision overall but I've seen very similar tries given.
The Lunt decision was a disgrace.
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| What about when Carvell went over and Ganson said the tackle had been completed? At no time did Ganson call that tackle complete. He didn't on the radio ear piece at the ground (how cool are they?) and still hasn't on three watches, several rewinds and slow-mo!
The King no try, I agree with the decision but we all know we have seen them given at other times.
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| Its interesting to see how some of you view the game and how completly wrong you are with your assesments.
On the coaching side, Nathan Brown is so far ahead of Tony Smith in coaching terms that Smith is not fit to be an assistant trainer on Browns coaching staff.
Brown has Huddersfield looking, get this, like a fully fit Rugby League team. Shock horror!
He has tried to keep the game plan simple and put the team in the hands of Hodges and Fulton as much as he possibly can.
The Giants look for field position, repeat sets, they tackle more effectivly than other teams......
Brown is doing so well with what he has got, he is the class of all the SL coaches by a very long way.
As for the overall quality of the game....my god. It was f*cking horrific.
The blunders, the amateur stupidity, the lack of any feeling for the game. The poor defensive reads on just about every single play, the lack of line speed in the defenmse, the terrible kicking game, the non existant positional play by the Wolves fullbacks....I could go on and on!
To think that this is where SL is at in 2009, the British game is dying so quickly and I can not believe the lot of you are not up in arms and calling for the RFL to do something to save the sport.
IF people are right and imports will become less in SL, with fewer incentives, fewer rosters spots for them and tighter visa restrictions, SL is facing a period where it will be a competition full of completely inept players who are only able to compete because of their titally inept opposition.
There are basic things within the game that English players just have no understanding of at all. Things that an under 9's player in Australia or New Zealand would be ashamed of getting wrong.
The British game is dying and I tell you what, you have about 5 years before the damage is completely irreversable and you just can all sit back and watch SL fade into a feeder league for the RFU and their pathetic footballers.
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"Its interesting to see how some of you view the game and how completly wrong you are with your assesments.'"
That's about as far as I got. Do you drink?
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| Great turn out by the Wire fans but the Huddersfield turn out was again poor and contributed to a low attendance.
They also failed to get behind their team. 51 minutes before the 1st chant of "Fartown" and 3 mins later "Huddersfield". The fans were as poor as their team.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"That's about as far as I got. Do you drink?'"
Oh....do you think I post here for you.
Oh.....I have some really bad news for you I'm afraid.....
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| Quote ="John S"Great turn out by the Wire fans but the Huddersfield turn out was again poor and contributed to a low attendance.
They also failed to get behind their team. 51 minutes before the 1st chant of "Fartown" and 3 mins later "Huddersfield". The fans were as poor as their team.'"
Are you on the rag or something?
Who gives a sh*t about their turn out or how much "chanting" they did. Its a game of footy!
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"Oh....do you think I post here for you.
Oh.....I have some really bad news for you I'm afraid.....'"
Your tests came back positive?
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| Someone teach him how to use the quote feature!
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"Oh....do you think I post here for you.
Oh.....I have some really bad news for you I'm afraid.....[/quote
Your tests came back positive?'" '" always attacking the poster but not the subject
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"There are basic things within the game that English players just have no understanding of at all. Things that an under 9's player in Australia or New Zealand would be ashamed of getting wrong.'"
Like what?
I assume from your posts you are in fact a coaching prodigy? Please, share your knowledge with us so we may drag SL to your wondrous level.
What basic things do English players have no understanding of?
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| Quote ="Cronus"All I said was there's a case for it. I've seen them given, I've seen them denied. This one was denied. Would the defender have prevented the try if unobstructed? Possibly - Briers had to adjust his defence when he was suddenly 1-on-1. Probably the correct decision overall but I've seen very similar tries given.
The Lunt decision was a disgrace.'" all media down here say the same thing. the ref was half a metre away . unobstructed veiw. and he went to the video ref . he is a f--king joke .how pathetic. our jaw hit the ground with that 1
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"Are you on the rag or something?
Who gives a sh*t about their turn out or how much "chanting" they did. Its a game of footy!'"
Thank you for your considered and intelligent response.
Attendances at Cup Finals/Grand Finals and 'big' weekly games have always been of interest both in the UK and Australia.
The sight of many empty seats did not look good and it is disappointing that after a good season to date the Huddersfield public did not turn out in their droves.
Unlike in Australia, fans in the UK tend to get behind there teams more vocally---as expressed by many, if not all, players from Down Under, and therefore it was surprising that the Huddersfield end of the ground--which I was in--was very quiet, even at the start of the game.
Yes, "its a game of footy" but other factors make the occasion.
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| we had 41,000 at the bulldogs vs warriors game at stadium australia homebush olympic park sydney . the crowd was going crazy for hazem el magic's last home game retirement this year
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| Quote ="Cronus"Like what?
I assume from your posts you are in fact a coaching prodigy? Please, share your knowledge with us so we may drag SL to your wondrous level.
What basic things do English players have no understanding of?'"
Being able to make a good read in defense.
Fullback positional play.
being able to pass to your left, and right, if you are a halfback.
How about not running into the back of the only team mate within your half of the field and giving away and obstruction penalty!
What about a prop thinking he can throw lobbed passes to his without getting intercepted.
Just simple, basic, under 9's like mistakes. And these are your best players!
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"Being able to make a good read in defense.
Fullback positional play.
being able to pass to your left, and right, if you are a halfback.
How about not running into the back of the only team mate within your half of the field and giving away and obstruction penalty!
What about a prop thinking he can throw lobbed passes to his Centre without getting intercepted.
Just simple, basic, under 9's like mistakes. And these are your best players!
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Riley and Mason are our best players?
And here's me thinking you knew something about the British game.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Riley and Mason are our best players?
And here's me thinking you knew something about the British game.'"
Ok lets look at your best player.
Paul Wellens is slow, cant tackle and has never known what positional play is.....and yet he'll be picked for England.
Your halfback, Burrow, cant kick, has no passing game and cant tackle. Oh and he needs a broke, retreating defensive line to run, and then needs a defense to not scramble to make for than 5 meters.
All your forwards are soft. All of them.
Your wingers are terrible under the high ball and have no idea where to be in defense.
Your are clueless in defensive positioning. They leave their inside defender and winger like a shag on a rock in defense. They have poor hands, they have zero skill.
You name an English player and I'll tell you the massive, game ending problems they have.
Do you realize that when the mentioned the Challenge Cup Final on the Footy Show and the like that they were all laughing about players in the side and how "He's STILL playing?".
You're competition is a shambolic joke. You're players are a waste of space and your coaches, well, they dont coach.
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"Ok lets look at your best player.
Paul Wellens is slow, cant tackle and has never known what positional play is.....and yet he'll be picked for England. slow yes and now past it
Your halfback, Burrow, cant kick, has no passing game and cant tackle. Oh and he needs a broke, retreating defensive line to run, and then needs a defense to not scramble to make for than 5 meters. not great at international level thats for sure
All your forwards are soft. All of them. bit off the mark we have some ok forwards
Your wingers are terrible under the high ball and have no idea where to be in defense. yep
Your centres are clueless in defensive positioning. They leave their inside defender and winger like a shag on a rock in defense. They have poor hands, they have zero skill. most definitely so, our centres as a whole are gash
You name an English player and I'll tell you the massive, game ending problems they have.
Do you realize that when the mentioned the Challenge Cup Final on the Footy Show and the like that they were all laughing about players in the side and how "He's STILL playing?".
You're competition is a shambolic joke. You're players are a waste of space and your coaches, well, they dont coach.
i admit i am an ozzie bell end though'"
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"
You're competition is a shambolic joke. You're players are a waste of space and your coaches, well, they dont coach.'"
To quote Shakespeare ( who was English, not Australian, by the way ) every single one of your posts is 'full of sound and fury, signifying nothing'.
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| Freak has just called Morley soft.
I think he's definitely lost it now, he should come back when he can talk sense.
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