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| Quote ="bowes"It's equally as much in Lancashire as anywhere like Wigan is. It's in Lancashire in proper counties, but Cumbria in administrative counties. Hard to see anyone attached to administrative counties as they change all the time, just this year Cheshire got abolished officially and most major towns are stand alone not in any county'"
For me the people of the county are the best indicators and they say they are cumbrians.
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| Quote ="Buffalo"More to the point, who fcking cares.'"
Obviously you if you bothered to post.
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| Quote ="pyeman"For me the people of the county are the best indicators and they say they are cumbrians.'"
Isn't a Cumbrian someone from Cumberland, and Barrow has never been Cumberland!?
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| Quote ="pyeman"Think you misunderstood me, the point i was making is yes barrow is in cumbria, and the reason i know this is because the people of barrow have told me so on the occasions i have visited.'"
Yep, my mistake. I quoted the wrong post. sorry.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Isn't a Cumbrian someone from Cumberland, and Barrow has never been Cumberland!?'"
No. A Cumbrian is someone from Cumbria. Simple really.
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| Here's a thought, put up a sticky titled
[size=200BARROW IS IN CUMBRIA[/size
We get this argument every week ffs
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| Wikipedia says:
Barrow-in-Furness (Cumbric: Barragh-yn-Faiddis), often known simply as Barrow, is an industrial town and seaport which forms about half the territory of the wider Borough of Barrow-in-Furness in the county of Cumbria, England.
Historically a part of Lancashire
Barrow is the largest town in the Borough of Barrow-in-Furness and the largest settlement in the peninsula of Furness. The borough is the direct inheritor of the municipal and county borough charters given to the town in the late 1800s. Historically it is part of the Hundred of Lonsdale 'north of the sands' in the historic county boundaries of Lancashire. Since the local government reforms enacted in England in 1974 the town has been within the administrative shire and ceremonial county of Cumbria. It still forms a part of the official UK government administered Duchy of Lancaster. The Barrow-in-Furness Borough Council forms the 'lower' tier of local government under Cumbria County Council.
Barrow is unique within Cumbria and the local dialect tends to be more Lancashire oriented.
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| wikipedia says......
what ever the hell i decide it too say....i can put barrow in catalonia if you want...lol
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| Quote ="pyeman"For me the people of the county are the best indicators and they say they are cumbrians.'"
Not really since most British people are too stupid to know what country they live in never mind county.
As for the thread why should fans from Whitehaven and Workington support a totally separate club from about 50 miles away, regardless of arbitrary local government boundaries?
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"wikipedia says......
what ever the hell i decide it too say....i can put barrow in catalonia if you want...lol'"
LOL... Try! I'd be curious to see how long it would stay.
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| In answer to the OP, why the hell would we be going to support Barrow ?
Will fans of Batley, Dewsbury, Fev, Hunslet, York, Keighley, Sheffield, Doncaster etc be travelling to Blackpool to support Halifax if they make the final ?
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| Barrow is in the ceremonial and administrative county of Cumbria.
Historically it is still in Lancashire, and remains apart of the County Palatine.
Whatever people stress their loyalties with is fine with me. Though what the heck this is has to do with RL is beyond me.
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"wikipedia says......
what ever the hell i decide it too say....i can put barrow in catalonia if you want...lol'"
Try and it and see how long its lasts, it will prob be about an hour, then you can do it again, and again, and eventually, your IP address gets banned from editing it! Trust me I know!
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| Quote ="bowes"It's equally as much in Lancashire as anywhere like Wigan is. It's in Lancashire in proper counties, but Cumbria in administrative counties. Hard to see anyone attached to administrative counties as they change all the time, just this year Cheshire got abolished officially and most major towns are stand alone not in any county'"
That depends if you have ever played Rugby League for that admistrative county, as a Barrow lad you get selected for Cumbria, not Lancashire.
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| Quote ="lpage"
Barrow is unique within Cumbria and the local dialect tends to be more Lancashire oriented.'"
That depends on where in Barrow/South Cumbria you are.
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| Quote ="marvwoodburn"That depends if you have ever played Rugby League for that admistrative county, as a Barrow lad you get selected for Cumbria, not Lancashire.'"
Well that is just sick. Whatever happened to the traditional Rugby League county side of Cumberland and why, if they made a team out of a ised hybrid then why not split Lancashire up into Merseyside, Cheshire and Greater Manchester and split Yorkshire up into West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, North Yorkshire and Humberside?
Barrow lads were traditionally picked for thier true County, Lancashire.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Well that is just sick. Whatever happened to the traditional Rugby League county side of Cumberland and why, if they made a team out of a ised hybrid then why not split Lancashire up into Merseyside, Cheshire and Greater Manchester and split Yorkshire up into West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, North Yorkshire and Humberside?'"
I cant answer that one for you sorry but Its a valid point.
Quote ="wigan_rlfc"
Barrow lads were traditionally picked for thier true County, Lancashire.'"
Having been born in Barrow post '74 I would have chosen Cumbria over Lancashire, (had I been presented with such an embarresment of riches as a choice!) as a Barrow lad, Barrow to me is in Cumbria and I am Cumbrian.
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| Quote ="marvwoodburn"Barrow to me is in Cumbria and I am Cumbrian.'"
Until the government say otherwise, of course.
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| I wish Barrow well in the final as a Cumbrian team...but wouldnt travel to support them!
Cant remember seeing many Barrow fans in Blackpool or the grand finals when we were there!
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| Quote ="Dougy"Try and it and see how long its lasts, it will prob be about an hour, then you can do it again, and again, and eventually, your IP address gets banned from editing it! Trust me I know!'"
why would i do it again and again?????
i have a life.....
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| Quote ="Dougy"Try and it and see how long its lasts, it will prob be about an hour, then you can do it again, and again, and eventually, your IP address gets banned from editing it! Trust me I know!'"
Yeah I put that UCCF (an evangelical Christian group my old housemates were part of) was a cult and got banned once. Having said that the weirdest one was when someone changed our students' union's page to a picture of Squidward from spongebob squarepants, never quite got why
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| Quote ="marvwoodburn"I cant answer that one for you sorry but Its a valid point.
Having been born in Barrow post '74 I would have chosen Cumbria over Lancashire, (had I been presented with such an embarresment of riches as a choice!) as a Barrow lad, Barrow to me is in Cumbria and I am Cumbrian.'"
haing been born in barrow pre 74, i class myself as barrovian/lancastrian..i dont really identify with cumbria at all...think majority of barrovians pre 74 still class themselves as lancs people,
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| Quote ="furnessian"haing been born in barrow pre 74, i class myself as barrovian/lancastrian..i dont really identify with cumbria at all...think majority of barrovians pre 74 still class themselves as lancs people,'"
Yeah I think your right there mate my Grandfather was the same.
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| Quote ="Havener"I wish Barrow well in the final as a Cumbrian team...but wouldnt travel to support them!
[uCant remember seeing many Barrow fans in Blackpool or the grand finals when we were there[/u!'"
Fair shout!
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Barrow Chairman Des Johnston is talking about taking 6-7000 fans to the final in the local paper here:
www.nwemail.co.uk/raiders/news/b ... rPath=home
As the capacity of Bloomfield road is 9000 odd and Widnes are likely to get more tickets than Barrow, I fear he may be disappointed.
Either way, I don't think there'll be much call for supporters from haven or workington or other parts of "Cumbria" to turn up for the main event, although some of them might like to watch their reserve teams playing nines?
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Barrow Chairman Des Johnston is talking about taking 6-7000 fans to the final in the local paper here:
www.nwemail.co.uk/raiders/news/b ... rPath=home
As the capacity of Bloomfield road is 9000 odd and Widnes are likely to get more tickets than Barrow, I fear he may be disappointed.
Either way, I don't think there'll be much call for supporters from haven or workington or other parts of "Cumbria" to turn up for the main event, although some of them might like to watch their reserve teams playing nines?
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