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| Quote ="Willzay"Super League Champions in 2021'"
Yes if you believe in miracles LOL
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| With the money issues they have why dont they go with a cheaper up and coming coach like other clubs in the championship
Sheens will want experienced expensive players rather than working with developing players - hes unproven in UK
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| Wouldn't be much cop at Leigh, looks like we're going to be signing all the scraps from other clubs. No promotion for us, but at least I can continue to enjoy my Sunday afternoon's without the daft Thursday and Friday night games.
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| Why would a coach of Timothy Sheen's stature agree to become coach of a team that has only part time players and little prospect of rejoining Super League in the foreseeable future?
I suspect that the reason is that he needs a job, a well paying job, and that no other financially comparable offers were in sight.
What a pity that the Catalans Dragons didn't make a move for him.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Why would a coach of Timothy Sheen's stature agree to become coach of a team that has only part time players and little prospect of rejoining Super League in the foreseeable future?
I suspect that the reason is that he needs a job, a well paying job, and that no other financially comparable offers were in sight.
[uWhat a pity that the Catalans Dragons didn't make a move for him.[/u'"
Maybe Bernard Squash thought he could not add anything to there, their, they're team.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Why would a coach of Timothy Sheen's stature agree to become coach of a team that has only part time players and little prospect of rejoining Super League in the foreseeable future?
I suspect that the reason is that he needs a job, a well paying job, and that no other financially comparable offers were in sight.
What a pity that the Catalans Dragons didn't make a move for him.'"
There's more to rugby and life than super league. Good luck to him at Widnes.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Why would a coach of Timothy Sheen's stature agree to become coach of a team that has only part time players and little prospect of rejoining Super League in the foreseeable future?
I suspect that the reason is that he needs a job, a well paying job, and that no other financially comparable offers were in sight.
What a pity that the Catalans Dragons didn't make a move for him.'"
Why do you want Catalan to go down to the championship because that is what would have happened he is yesterdays man
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| Quote ="Someday"Why do you want Catalan to go down to the championship because that is what would have happened he is yesterdays man'"
How dare you speak of Timothy Sheens in that disrespectful way!
Next you will be writing that Wayne Bennett is "yesterday's man," because he could not win a premiership in his first year at South Sydney. Everybody knows that the loss of Gregory Inglis, and the serious injury to Samuel Burgess's shoulder, doomed South Sydney's chances of success in 2019, regardless of who the coach was.
The same applies to Timothy Sheen's unhappy performances as a coach of English clubs. He wasn't given a strong enough roster of players, either at Salford or Hull Kingston Rovers, and that is why he was not successful with those clubs.
Timothy Sheens is a coach of great distinction. When given a strong roster of players, as he had at Canberra Raiders and Wests Tigers, he has been very successful
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| So you’re saying Sheens needs a blank cheque to be successful.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"How dare you speak of Timothy Sheens in that disrespectful way!
Next you will be writing that Wayne Bennett is "yesterday's man," because he could not win a premiership in his first year at South Sydney. Everybody knows that the loss of Gregory Inglis, and the serious injury to Samuel Burgess's shoulder, doomed South Sydney's chances of success in 2019, regardless of who the coach was.
The same applies to Timothy Sheen's unhappy performances as a coach of English clubs. He wasn't given a strong enough roster of players, either at Salford or Hull Kingston Rovers, and that is why he was not successful with those clubs.
Timothy Sheens is a coach of great distinction. When given a strong roster of players, as he had at Canberra Raiders and Wests Tigers, he has been very successful'"
Sheens has a superb record in Australia but, in the UK, he's been less than average.
Almost got Salford relegated but, then backed the wrong horse and went down with KR instead.
Salford have done rather better with their young English Coach, Ian Watson.
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| Quote ="Willzay"So you’re saying Sheens needs a blank cheque to be successful.'"
Not a blank cheque. Just a decent cheque.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"How dare you speak of Timothy Sheens in that disrespectful way!
Next you will be writing that Wayne Bennett is "yesterday's man," because he could not win a premiership in his first year at South Sydney. Everybody knows that the loss of Gregory Inglis, and the serious injury to Samuel Burgess's shoulder, doomed South Sydney's chances of success in 2019, regardless of who the coach was.
The same applies to Timothy Sheen's unhappy performances as a coach of English clubs. He wasn't given a strong enough roster of players, either at Salford or Hull Kingston Rovers, and that is why he was not successful with those clubs.
Timothy Sheens is a coach of great distinction. When given a strong roster of players, as he had at Canberra Raiders and [size=150Wests Tigers[/size, he has been very successful'"
Western Tigers surely?
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"How dare you speak of Timothy Sheens in that disrespectful way!
Next you will be writing that Wayne Bennett is "yesterday's man," because he could not win a premiership in his first year at South Sydney. Everybody knows that the loss of Gregory Inglis, and the serious injury to Samuel Burgess's shoulder, doomed South Sydney's chances of success in 2019, regardless of who the coach was.
The same applies to Timothy Sheen's unhappy performances as a coach of English clubs. He wasn't given a strong enough roster of players, either at Salford or Hull Kingston Rovers, and that is why he was not successful with those clubs.
Timothy Sheens is a coach of great distinction. When given a strong roster of players, as he had at Canberra Raiders and Wests Tigers, he has been very successful'"
I think it's a good appointment for both parties. Tim Sheens can help guide a famous old club to the play-offs, and with Widnes they have some cracking young players, that will only benefit from his knowledge & experience.
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| Quote ="MonkeyLover"Western Tigers surely?'"
Surely not. They are known throughout Australia and the rugby league community as Wests Tigers. That is their official name.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"How dare you speak of Timothy Sheens in that disrespectful way!
Next you will be writing that Wayne Bennett is "yesterday's man," because he could not win a premiership in his first year at South Sydney. Everybody knows that the loss of Gregory Inglis, and the serious injury to Samuel Burgess's shoulder, doomed South Sydney's chances of success in 2019, regardless of who the coach was.
The same applies to Timothy Sheen's unhappy performances as a coach of English clubs. He wasn't given a strong enough roster of players, either at Salford or Hull Kingston Rovers, and that is why he was not successful with those clubs.
Timothy Sheens is a coach of great distinction. When given a strong roster of players, as he had at Canberra Raiders and Wests Tigers, he has been very successful'"
You didn't need to justify why Souths didn't win a premiership, apart from yourself nobody has mentioned them.
Back to Sheens... "He wasn't given a strong enough roster of players, either at Salford". Was Ian Watson given a strong enough roster to make the Super League Grand Final? Nope, but he did what he could with the players he had.
Sheens is an old man now, I get he might love the game but 100% should be taking a back seat now and perhaps head home to Sydney and look to offer his knowledge and experience at a lower league side. Having said that I wish him well at Widnes...
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Surely not. They are known throughout Australia and the rugby league community as Wests Tigers. That is their official name.'"
Sorry Jean but it's not, their official name is Wests Tigers Rugby League Football Pty LTD.
Cheers
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| Sheens is essentially the Jose Mourinho of RL.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Sheens is essentially the Jose Mourinho of RL.'"
Not quite.
All of his (Sheens) success has come in Australia.
Mourinho was successful in 4 countries, until his luck ran out.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Not quite.
All of his (Sheens) success has come in Australia.
Mourinho was successful in 4 countries, until his luck ran out.'"
I was looking at it more like Sheens has become, like Mourinho, bit of a dinosaur.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Surely not. They are known throughout Australia and the rugby league community as Wests Tigers. That is their official name.'"
No idea why I am rising for the bait but I would suggest Timothy Sheens is better known Worldwide as 'Tim'.
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| Sheens seems outdated to me, very much like Brian Smith - A very knowledgeable coach with plenty of experience that has lost the ability to adapt against well coached teams. It happens in every walk of life, no sign of disrespect - Just the truth.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"The same applies to Timothy Sheen's unhappy performances as a coach of English clubs. He wasn't given a strong enough roster of players, either at Salford or Hull Kingston Rovers, and that is why he was not successful with those clubs. Timothy Sheens is a coach of great distinction. When given a strong roster of players, as he had at Canberra Raiders and Wests Tigers, he has been very successful'"
A bad workman always blames his tools ...
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Sheens seems outdated to me, very much like Brian Smith - A very knowledgeable coach with plenty of experience that has lost the ability to adapt against well coached teams. It happens in every walk of life, no sign of disrespect - Just the truth.'"
The comparison is incorrect.
Timothy Sheens has won four Grand Finals, with two different teams. Three Grand Finals with the Canberra Raiders (1989, 1990, 1994) and one Grand Final with the Wests Tigers (2005).
Brian Smith has won no Grand Finals, though he has been runner up in three I believe, with three different teams --- St George-Illawarra Dragons, Parramatta Eels, and Sydney Roosters.
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| Quote ="MonkeyLover"No idea why I am rising for the bait but I would suggest Timothy Sheens is better known Worldwide as 'Tim'.'"
"Tim" is his familiar name. But he is in fact a Timothy.
Wests Tigers has no other familiar name.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"[u"Tim" is his familiar name. But he is in fact a Timothy.[/u
Wests Tigers has no other familiar name.'"
Ok, If you say so "Jehan"
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