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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"<cough>
GUFFAW etc.'"
You complete and absolute idiot. Briers was in front of Ablett. as Briers swung, Ablett turned away, as most people would, to deflect the blow. Why can't you just get over it. Warrington beat leeds, Leeds get a second chance this week against Saints, end of story.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"<cough>
GUFFAW etc.'"
Natural instinct is to turn away duck if someone throws a shot at you . as the photo shows
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"You complete and absolute idiot. Briers was in front of Ablett. as Briers swung, Ablett turned away, as most people would, to deflect the blow. Why can't you just get over it. Warrington beat leeds, Leeds get a second chance this week against Saints, end of story.'"
Briers was in front of Ablett and managed to swing a punch so that he ended up behind him facing the same way?
Once again, Briers swings from the side of Ablett, with Abletts head (but not his body turned towards him) Briers was coming from behind Ablett, and ends up behind him again as Ablett goes away from Briers and Briers moves back towards where he came from in the same direction as his swing.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Briers was in front of Ablett and managed to swing a punch so that he ended up behind him facing the same way?
Once again, Briers swings from the side of Ablett, with Abletts head (but not his body turned towards him) Briers was coming from behind Ablett, and ends up behind him again as Ablett goes away from Briers and Briers moves back towards where he came from in the same direction as his swing.'"
Strangely enough the Disciplinary appear to have accepted the facts of the matter and have ignored the bile that's coming out of you.
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| Quote ="wire-till-i-die"Natural instinct is to turn away duck if someone throws a shot at you . as the photo shows'"
But you cant realistically turn 180 degrees in the time it takes someone to swing so that someone who started to swing in front of you, finishes up their swing behind you facing the same way.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Strangely enough the Disciplinary appear to have accepted the facts of the matter and have ignored the bile that's coming out of you.'"
Strangely enough the disciplinary have made no mention of it and im not sure why you think a realistic description of what happened is classed as bile.
Im also not sure why you are being so protective of Briers when the only real criticism I have made of him (rather than the disciplinary) is the fact he punches like a small child.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Strangely enough the disciplinary have made no mention of it and im not sure why you think a realistic description of what happened is classed as bile.
Im also not sure why you are being so protective of Briers when the only real criticism I have made of him (rather than the disciplinary) is the fact he punches like a small child.'"
I'm not. I actually put on the Wire Site that the punch was so poor that he must have been coached by Audley Harrison. I'm sure you'll agree with that point.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"I'm not. I actually put on the Wire Site that the punch was so poor that he must have been coached by Audley Harrison. I'm sure you'll agree with that point.'"
It was an awful punch
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| Quote ="LeedsDave"Don't let facts get in the way of a good sob story....
Wardle got banned for SUSTAINED punches to Ablett, not in retaliation.
Bailey got a 1 match ban 'the other week' for punching in retaliation to Blanch's slap.
Briers should therefore get a ban for a punch no in retaliation to the back of someones head.'"
wardle was retaliating to ablett though after getting a knee to the face in the tackle.
dont forget he got a red card and a 3 match ban, compare with the others and looks harsh
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"were you shouting for tommy lee to get sent off last season when he took briers head off with a nasty swinging arm 3 seconds before half time at your place?
just out of interest, if you're so concerned with consistancy'"
no i said thats disgusting, get rid of him... and we did, sent him to london broncos
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| This controversy could all have been avoided had the on-field ref not wet himself.
All it needed was a sin-binning for Briers.
No over-reaction to a bit of biff but doesn't ignore it.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"It was an awful punch'"
Which excuses the RFL inaction. Not.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Which excuses the RFL inaction. Not.'"
There isn't RFL inaction. They've charged him with a grade A, which carries 1 game. Briers can submit an early guilty plea because he qualifies through a good disciplinary record. You can't compare him to Ryan Bailey, who has a poor record and therefore cannot currently submit an EGP if he gets sent off or cited again. Nor can you compare it to the Wardle incident as he put in a whole series of blows and got charged with another offence.
Quite straightforward really, but there are those on here with their own agenda who simply can't see it.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"If you don't understand the difference between "intensity" and taking a cheap shot at someone's head while their back is half-turned, I fear rugby league isn't the sport for you.'"
Given the RFL disciplinary verdict tends to back my view that the incident was a fairly minor one, perhaps it's you who should review your choice of sport?
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| Quote ="Him"This controversy could all have been avoided had the on-field ref not wet himself.
All it needed was a sin-binning for Briers.
No over-reaction to a bit of biff but doesn't ignore it.'"
That would have been the sensible decision however the RFL set themselves a precedent and decided it is a sending off offence. I haven't a problem, in fact would prefer simply a yellow card except it extreme cases but the RFL need to change their interpretation first. Under the current interpretation Child bottled it and should of sent him off. If he had this thread would probably be 5 pages instead of 20+
Nicked from P16 so i'm assuming this is correct.
Quote Strikes – punching
A-B Reaction to opponent – lashing out
A-B Punching – self defence
A-B Punching – one on one – minor
C-D Punching – sustained, repeated or violent
E Punching – sustained, repeated, violent & aggressive
C-D Running in & punching
E-F Running in & punching – opponent off guard '"
If the above is the criteria the RFL have set themselves then the closest to the incident is E-F Running in & punching – opponent off guard, it certainly isn't worth 5 matches plus imo. That just highlights one of the problems with the disciplinary.
Also the early guilty plea bugs me. He no doubt will take it so effectively has got away without punishment when others have received red cards and matches for committing similar offences. IMO they should scrap the EGP and replace it with a system where a player receives the appropriate ban plus an extra match for each previous indiscretion on his record.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"he didn't run in'"
Quite. I would say the first one A-B -lashing out covers it
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"So Ablett should have faked injury and taken the free substitution then?'"
I sai numerous times Ablett has saved him by not reacting agressively and makng a silly situation worse. With Childs bottling it and not dealing with it at the time (10 minutes bit of biff, calm everything down, crack on). Will it turn into football players falling over at the slightest touch. It is beginning to slip in at the ptb with the attacking players trying to milk penalties by holding arms in, falling over when they think someone has had a second go.
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| All this crying about briers is pathetic. The likes of bailey and ablett have got away with far worse than what briers did. Bring back the biff, its part of the game.
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| Quote ="r4yne"All this crying about briers is pathetic. The likes of bailey and ablett have got away with far worse than what briers did. Bring back the biff, its part of the game.'"
If you could point me to any incident where Ablett has got up from a legitimate tackle and punch the tackler that would be great. Intact Ablett has had similar incidents before when he has been punched, and in those situation he's never retaliated back (apart from laughing at the punches that is)
Punching people because you don't like being tackled is certainly not part of the game.
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| Quote ="christopher"Punching people because you don't like being tackled is certainly not part of the game.'"
On the basis that Briers got away with it because of the ref's bottle and the EGP option, it might be part of the game for a few weeks to come.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"he didn't run in'"
That's why i said the closest.
A-B Reaction to opponent – lashing out - Ablett was walking back into the Leeds line and didn't do anything that should cause an immediate reaction.
A-B Punching – self defence - It certainly wasn't self defence.
A-B Punching – one on one – minor - 'one on one' implies the two players were squaring up.
C-D Punching – sustained, repeated or violent - It wasn't any of those
E Punching – sustained, repeated, violent & aggressive - It wasn't any of those
So that leaves E-F Running in & punching – opponent off guard - He certainly caught his opponent 'off guard'
As i said it just highlights one of the problems with the disciplinary.
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