I know, thus offering an incentive for clubs to become richer.

Is Brisbane making the playoffs year on year evidence that the NRL salary cap isn't working?

im more interested in that little theory about how the NRLs salary cap is different to what the RFL is proposed.

where did you pull that BS from?

why dont we not bother playing the league this year, and just put Wakefield and Hull KR in the GF

or we could start last years playoff clubs on -10points every game,

or we could just flip a coin to decide the winner, then everyone has an equal chance

like i said before, enjoy your moment in the sunshine, it wont last.

youll just have to accept that RL is mroe than your club and if youll just have to support them when they arent winning trophies.

from your posts its looking like you are just a gloryhunter

the salary cap is trying to do what those things above are doing.

the very goal of the salary cap is to stop the strong clubs monopolizing it.

its just more subtle than starting you guys on minus 10.

Certainly works for Melbourne...

yes, i have argued frequently that the NRL Salary Cap simply promotes the status quo and that the competitiveness of the NRL is down to the quality of the structure underneath the NRL rather than the SC, which is a poor and blunt instrument for trying to even the competition, the only thing it successfully does is keep costs down

brisbane are the richest RL club in australia.

their revenues are DOUBLE some sydney clubs.

DOUBLE

that they dont win the NRL every year is because of the salary cap.

indeed though being the most succesful club since the 90s, theyve only won 2 grand finals this decade.

thanks for bringing up that club as an example because it is exactly the point im trying to show.

the salary cap can stop the richest clubs from monopolizing the competition

Evident trolling, I was attempting to have a serious discussion, you've made it imposssible, goodbye...

You mean apart from the fact that the NRL salary cap is set at a level so low that even the smaller clubs are able to pay it in full?

go on then, whats this supposed magical struture beneath the nrl that achieves that?

this should be really amusing

clearly it hasnt, because it doesnt work, its a rubbish tool for what you are attempting to do,

Leeds have the vast majority of their squad, and certainly the spine of it, signed up to long term deals, they arent going to lose them and they arent going to get weaker,

and if we are to bring the league closer it is very very important we do this by making the weak stronger, and not the strong weaker

thats not true.

so wrong.

the salary cap was set at a level which was actually too high initially for a lot of clubs to reach, but eventually every team has gotten there.

pretty much exactly as whats happening in SL.

there goes your BS theory

the weaker clubs are raising their revenues. but also as the amount the richer clubs can spend is limited then they are catching up in being able to compete with players.

without a cap even if the smaller clubs raised their revenues, more than likely the bigger clubs would also be raising theirs so the gap will always remain.

with the top clubs fixed in what they can spend, its only a matter of time before the smaller clubs reach them in terms of spending power on players.

id say 3 - 5 years every club will be doing it.

you mean like a strong competitive amateur and feeder structure, something the NRL has which SL doesnt

Manly, Melbourne, Brisbane, all have strong feeder systems, and all had teams based on players brought through their feeder systems

And yet Melbourne still dominate.

manly have strong juniors do they






look ill help you :

Penrith have probably the largest juniors in sydney, around 8000.
Parramatta have heaps as well.

saints have lots as do souths.

Newcastle as an area has heaps as do queensland and nz.

now if you are saying that the eveness of the competition is because all clubs have good juniors, well many dont.

the roosters won the GF in 2002 with hardly any juniors. they buy from other clubs.

manly have signed many good players from other clubs to help them win the GF.

eg jamie lyon who was a parramatta player and mat orford who made his name at melbourne plus steve bell.

1 grand final win in 3 years is dominating is it?

the past 3 years, 3 different teams have won the NRL grand final.

and they still wont be winning things, the SC doesnt make clubs successful, it doesnt build champion sides, it never has done and never will

it only destroys them, it only stops the game moving on

next year 10 clubs will spend the full cap, 10 clubs will spend the same amount as Leeds and Saint Helens, last year 8 clubs spent that much, 8 clubs spent exactly the same, yet the club in 8th position scored about half the points Leeds and St Helens did.

and only 3 have contested it

NRL.

case closed.

enjoy the next couple of years mate.

Who won the Minor Prem in the last three years.

Prediction: Dally says that doesn't matter.

since 2000, number of different teams to win the NRL : 7 different teams.

whats the comparison with Super League over the same time period?