WOW, really, are you so out of touch with reality that you can't see how stupid that makes you look?
You really think the RFL are going to bow to pressure from a bunch of halfwits to concoct a scenario/evidence to ensure Hardaker is guilty because they don't want these halfwits to come out with their 'knives'? And from that concoted evidence you don't think Hardaker would if he knows he didn't say what he's alledged to have said wouldn't take legal action against the RFL for stitching him up? Because you're going to sit back and take a made up story about you that never happened and let it affect your career and indeed your personal life etc



Legal action that would make any 'knives' from said halfwits look like the smallest of small potatoes because it would completely and utterly blow the sport apart as being corrupt on a massive level and cost them millions of pounds in court fees and compo for the damage done. Not only to an individual but also that persons club and indirectly all the other clubs because you could certainly guarantee no sponsor would want to touch a sport IF they were corrupt enough to deliberately make up evidence and ALL the clubs would suffer financially as a consequence of a criminal act by the governing body..
But no, you must be the right the RFL HAVE TO FIND HIM GUILTY no matter what



EDIT to ADD, what it will do hopefully whatever the outcome is make a rod for their own backs..I want the RFL to not only punish players properly in accordance with the rules (which need looking at tbh) when they step out of line, but also protect them from situations which I'm sure they (the RFL) have being guilty of in the past..that is going down the line of least resistance for them and pronouncing players guilty (usually over minor 1 game ban incidents) offering EGP and making it next to impossible/unviable to appeal because they will not move from their initial stance without a threat of legal action. Their process, investigation and judgement of disciplinary incidents has being nothing short of digracefully inconsistant and the judiciary isn't at present fit for purpose.
That doesn't in itself mean they shouldn't investigate fully the Hardaker incident, however they must insist that other incidents of a similar level and indeed those that pose a threat to effecting the sport as a whole rightly be given the same investigation should it warrant it. Let's face it homophobic abuse is up there, to not investigate would be seen by many within and outside the sport as being utterly wrong.
Apparently it's only the Leeds rugby league football club and a few halfwit Leeds supporters whom think the RFL are on a witch hunt against Hardaker..what a complete and utter nonsense!

I was tempted to agree with your sentiments, particularly those in an earlier post when you said something along the lines of "the world going mental" and "...I want to punch myself in the face....". On reading your some of your later commentary I'm sure that you are not alone.

It's worse than that. It also includes Jose Mourinho.

For once, you've got it right. The RFL will be f*cked if they concoct a guilty verdict when there isn't any evidence. However I wouldn't put it past them to be that dumb.

We are talking about the RFL here so not the wisest blokes around. That even one of their own ref's is seemingly at odds with their version now doesn't bode well for their side.

I bet you're one of them who actually believes James Child actually heard what Hardaker said first time and thought it was aimed at him.......because obviously the correct on-field ref decision to that would be to do f**k all at the time.

Difference is Hardaker knew he said it last time and admitted it. If he's certain he didn't say it this time then the RFL's delayed 'ref heard it all along' line hits a snag as Hardaker thinks "hang on, that's not possible as I genuinely didn't say it this time."

I think you're being a tad naive. In the wake of massive cover ups in the Rotherham child grooming scandal, historic evidence of officers being forced to change their statements at the Hillsborough disaster, and politicians at the highest level being found guilty of lying and dishonesty every other week you must be the most gullible person walking this earth if you think the RFL aren't capable of something similar. Have a strong coffee and wake yourself up.

The problem with that is that neither Hardaker or Leeds have actually said that he didn't say it.

In part of Hardaker's tweet the other day he said "And the fact that people are saying i've said a homophobic comment or that I'm homophobic is a load of rubbish!"

Kinda saying he didn't right there, as for Leeds they're smart enough not to say for certain he didn't, as whilst they may believe Hardaker they leave themselves open for even more criticism than they're getting already from their statement if they say categorically he didn't. They can believe him but they've still got to cover their a**es a little bit as a club and business.

People had a pop at his twitter outburst the other day but I see it similar to when they say a players reaction tells you whether or not they've scored the try. Last time their was no angry twitter outburst, no saying it was rubbish, no questioning of the RFL by his club......he simply offered a statement basically he f**ked up, admitted he said it and shouldn't have and apologised.

This time he and the club don't agree and are angrily rebuking the claims. Could well be that he knows he's on a last warning i agree.......but when you launch an attack that angrily in response (when you just calmly accepted it last time) well then perhaps, just PERHAPS, it's because he knows he didn't say it.

Jesus H Christ.

Such is the growing outrage at this so-called 'witch hunt,' that someone is prepared to equate it to the systemic and historical abuse of children, and a disaster resulting in catastrophic loss of life. Rather proves my point - that's the kind of guff I was referring to.

Yeah I agree he's gone OTT with those comparisons but the general jist is, do you really think it's beyond the realms for the RFL to ask their Silverwood for assistance in helping their case, do you think Silverwood would turn around to his EMPLOYER and say no because his morals wouldn't allow him to sleep at night.

Yes; Silverwood is an employee, not an indentured servant.

You're too wrapped up in the Leeds statement - all of your arguments are based on the presumption that there *is* a conspiracy against Zak Haradaker. I don't think there is.

People are claiming a witch hunt because the RFL have taken it upon themselves to not only pursue, but make the case public before a single charge has been brought and without any credible evidence, seemingly on the back of an internet storm from the low life fans of rugby league.

Just WoW! !

I love a good conspiricy theory but this is so far fetched that I'd beleive there really was a double decker bus on the moon before I beleive this.

Apart from video and a report by the match official?

Both of these are evidence enough to warrant investigation into the matter at hand.

A report by an official that was not made initially. The video is not credible evidence, when will you people learn. Everyone has an opinion about what they THINK he said, i think he said pr*ck. Does that mean theres credible evidence he said pr*ck? Because it's the same logic.

You people.

No one has ever said this. Leeds complained that the match commissioner wasn't told as the ref stepped off the field. Nobody has suggested that the match report produced by the ref didn't mention it in the first place. It is something taken from the Leeds board and you all just ran with it because you wanted it to be true.



Yeah, that's why CCTV never took off. No, really.



Because that's how a) facts and b) logic works ...

Yeah because lip-reading is the success in CCTV

Correct, there is video evidence that Hardaker MAY have made a homophobic comment, it is also in the referees report so they are INVESTIGATING, they've not charged Hardaker with anythin yet. If RFL have sufficient evidence, he will be found guilty. If they don't (and there's no way Leeds will allow Hardaker to be charged without sufficient evidence) Hardaker's found not guilty. I genuinely don't see the issue. The RFL have an obligation to investigate. Same way they go through every single game with a tooth comb looking for foul play.

and there would have been no problem with them doing so in private and if the evidence warrants charging and punishing Hardaker.

Whether implicitly or explicitly, whether deliberately or just through incompetance The RFL publicly accused Hardaker and made what should have been a private but transparent process, a public one.

You make a public accusation you can only expect a public defence. Personally i wouldnt have been as strong as Leeds were in their statement but if you corner a rhino you cant be surprised if it takes a run at you.

Where do I equate it to historical abuse of children....show me. Where do I equate it to a catastrophic loss of life......show me. I was giving examples of organisations much bigger and much more important than the RFL that were prepared to lie and fabricate evidence. Bull mania seemed to think the RFL is such a MASSIVE organisation that they wouldn't do anything unethical. I merely showed him examples of organisations much bigger and much more important that actually did. You can apologise for your dramatic and irrelevant accusation whenever you want.

you be sure to tell me when you do this now won't you.....




alas, being nowhere near a decent keyboard is not a sign of anything other than...er...not being near a decent keyboard. I am now sat at my desk though........are you sitting comfortably?

First up....you have declared yourself as the #1 gay rights activist on RLFANS.COM. This job title is patently something you desire and would be "proud" to have, a desire that is underlined by your immediate response to my initial post as being "homophobic". It wasn't.....it was simply an observation that your claim to being the #1 defender of gay rights on RLFANS.COM was in essence the same as saying "some of my friends are gay"
Your accusations of my being homophobic as well as stereotypical resulted in my observation that not only not only were some of your friends gay, but that you probably owned a pink shirt too. This drew a scathing attack on my attempt at humour and a request for a third effort to, in your eyes, complete my stupidity. I'd add at this stage that I was "slighted" that you ignored my kiss at the end of my previous post.....what's a girl to do?
So, I pointed out that you were being very precious.......a trait that the middle class straight dolphin kissing, tree hugging bark licking do-gooders who read the guardian wear as a badge of upmost qualification and rank.

As it stands.....a lot of my friends are Gay.....I actually ran Compton's on Old Compton street in London for 12 months.... I do own a number of Pink Shirts, have no problems hugging these friends openly in public, blowing them kisses, calling them sweetie (or precious) and generally treating them like I treat other human beings...with respect.

What I most assuredly don't do is claim to be the flag bearer for the fights against discrimination and neither do I feel the need to patronise them or other social groups who find themselves "treated differently". I am a realist. I call a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_call_a_spade_a_spadeSpade a spade......[/urlalthough in this day and age, I have to check who's in the room before I do so......it doesn't make me racist, it just makes me a non-pc conformist and believe me, all of my gay friends have been called names far more hurtful than a Puff......and to a man/woman and man-woman, they have all come back with a witty retort rather than the righteous indignation that you believe it is your right to exhibit.

I am not sure what else to say on this matter other than when I played sport at the highest level, the language on the park would make a Geordie ship-worker blush, the digs, punches and other sly actions hurt at the time but soothed after a few pints and what happened on the park, stayed on the park. Unfortunately, you and your bleeding heart liberals (who stopped us disciplining our kids in the 80's.....and look how that's turned out) would have every incident examined and re-examined to the extent where you have sucked the enjoyment out of the game.

Tennis is I believe the professional sport with the highest ratio of officials to players......I am sure you and your ilk would love RL to overtake this......ing nanny state!

And the bite was taken hook, line and sinker.

Thanks for playing, if I say jump will you say "how high?" Haha

lol at Leeds fans desperation to not have one of their players looking stupid for being banned for the same thing twice in 1 season !!!

Trolling from Huddersfield fans is just cringeworthy. Bless.

Could say the same about the "everybody hates Leeds" mentality Rhino fans have adopted. The Rhinos statement also seems to be have written by a poster on here.