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| Nobody is saying that at all. But you keep exaggerating to try and make it out that other fans have a vendetta against KR.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Cas got relegated twice and lost most of their youngsters but still don't have 10 overseas players in the team.'"
and how have they gone since being promoted? We talk about the NRL's intensity and wish SL was more intense then when new sides come in we moan as they try to build the best squad they can to be competitive. You can't have it both ways!
ps I am taking great pleasure in watching our mainly overseas pack steamroll FC! ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"and how have they gone since being promoted? '"
Won the same amount of trophies as you. Actually, I lie. We've won the Adam Watene Memorial Trophy.
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| win-lose ratio?
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"win-lose ratio?'"
Doesn't matter how many you win if you don't win anything as a result.
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| But FYI, Hull KR have won 55% over last two seasons, Cas 45% in all competitions.
You've only won six more games over past two seasons.
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| fair enough,
whilst you spend the week sitting at home smug about how your team of less foreigners may fair next year, me I'll be looking forward to watching HKR take on the next round of the playoffs! ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"fair enough,
whilst you spend the week sitting at home smug about how your team of less foreigners may fair next year, me I'll be looking forward to watching HKR take on the next round of the playoffs!
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Not sitting at home smug. I long for the day all clubs produce a number of youth. Not only will it make England better but it will strengthen our clubs too.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"and that is relevant to what i put because?'"
Because you are hypothesising a situation where clubs could sign more and more overseas players and suggesting that this is in some way Hull KR's fault. The RFL determine how many overseas players a SL club can sign. Hull KR (like all SL clubs) need to operate within the rules laid down by the RFL, if those rules don't create a make up of players at SL clubs that you prefer it is the operational rules (which Hull KR adhere to) and not Hull KR's fault that you don't like it.
Quote ="SmokeyTA"If hull kr cant run themselves in a sustainable way with the RFL needing to prescriptively legislate for them then they dont deserve a place in SL'"
So, for all the elements that make up a good, solid SL club, for all the tangible improvements that Hull KR have made prior to promotion and after promotion, for the things that Hull KR have brought to the SL and enriched the competition by on this one matter you think Hull KR don't deserve a place in SL?
I suspect you will agree, since it is the [uonly[/u stick you have with which to beat Hull KR with. Make hay my friend because in 1 or 2 years, you won't even have that. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"The worst thing is, it probably won't.
Mason's a decent player and so are Galea and Newton. Dobson's your best player and no one has heard of Green so I won't comment on him however Clinton is average, Lovergrove is average, [size=150Fisher is way below average,[/size Websters been average for you, Vella is shot,'"
Great try from that average player last night ![SUBMISSION c020.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//c020.gif)
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| Quote ="Gavin Miller - Legend"Great try from that average player last night
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I'm guessing he is feeling rather silly right about now as this squad of avg and below avg players handed FC their ar5es last night! Wonder what it says about their overseas signings of the last couple of years? ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| It's interesting to hear Cas fans slagging off Rovers youth development when our U15's, U18's and U20's have won more games and performed better this season. Ironic or are Cas fans worried about the impending franchise bids?
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| Quote ="Easty"It's interesting to hear Cas fans slagging off Rovers youth development when our U15's, U18's and U20's have won more games and performed better this season. Ironic or are Cas fans worried about the impending franchise bids?'"
As people have said before, it's not how they perform in the level below, it's how many actually make the transition to first-team rugby at the top level.
Oh and FYI, our U15's won 4 out of their 5 games. Yours won 3 out of their 6. That makes ours better, no?
Our U16's won 5 out of their 6. Yours, 4 out of their 6. Again ours better?
As for our academy, if we beat Warrington, I think we finish top of our group. You've done well to get into the top in that.
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| Any number of our youngsters could have made that transition to the first team and perhaps we too would have missed out on the play-offs. As it is, the ones who made the transition did so quite successfully.
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| Hull now have Berrigan and Manu classed as federation trained, I trust all the Hull fans now think this is a brilliant rule and they agree with it
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Hull now have Berrigan and Manu classed as federation trained, I trust all the Hull fans now think this is a brilliant rule and they agree with it'"
i don't agree and have stated in the past its a rule i don't like, if your aussie/nz quota they should stay a quota regardless if they have played here 1 season or 10!
besides i'm sure a certain fc poster has already given you the details of our possible overseas for next season, 6, the same as this
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| ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif) Quins RL are the only club that's boasted an all British 17 starting line up all season.
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| Quote ="spooneryork"icon_smile.gif Quins RL are the only club that's boasted an all British 17 starting line up all season.'"
IMO that's only because they've no cash to spend on overseas players because they must make so little revenue from attendances, merchandise etc. If Quins created their own cash like other clubs I'm sure they would bring in some overseas stars to compliment their young British players, i.e. I don't think they're pushing the English kids through choice.
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| Quote ="Roofs"IMO that's only because they've no cash to spend on overseas players because they must make so little revenue from attendances, merchandise etc. If Quins created their own cash like other clubs I'm sure they would bring in some overseas stars to compliment their young British players, i.e. I don't think they're pushing the English kids through choice.'"
This makes me laugh. If Quins had a team full of Australians then you'd be criticising them for not having any English players. Now when they do actually have that, you're slagging them off anyway. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="BD"This makes me laugh. If Quins had a team full of Australians then you'd be criticising them for not having any English players. Now when they do actually have that, you're slagging them off anyway.
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Not slagging them off at all, just saying I don't believe it's 100% down to choice, but partly down to finances.
It's like our local football team Hull City, they've suddenly started to give chances to academy products which is commendable, but it's only cos they've got big money problems due to relegation.
Anyway, I'd still swop Quins for Fax or Fetherstone next year on principle. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"
And again, if your club was good at scouting, coaching, developing players it wouldnt weaken the first team. '"
Seems Rovers can manage to scout, coach and develop players after all...[urlhttp://viewtopic.php?f=2&t=471115[/url ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| You do know of course that a certain poster will be unable to give us any credit for Liam Watts' development.
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| If we play better with the likes of Dobson, Newton and galea then who cares? We're not breaking any rules, I hardly think we're going to single handedly prevent the international game from progressing as a result of us having more overseas than others and if players such as mason, newton and dobson can grace this league then its all good for me.
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| Quote ="Bobbin' Along"You do know of course that a certain poster will be unable to give us any credit for Liam Watts' development.'" There wont be just one though.
You see they seem to not understand that by Watts own admission on national TV when he was at Cas he wasn't focused properly.
He now has focus something ONLY HKR can be credited for.
These are the same folks that then seem to have no problems with the likes of Tom Briscoe being classed as home grown at FC.
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