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| Quote ="vastman"Miller is a decent HB, Lino is the headless chicken, think you’re in a minority on that. In the few decent games we’ve had from Lino in the early days they were all when partnered by Miller. For me Lino just doesn’t have the smarts as. HB.'"
Agreed. I do actually think he would make a more decent 9 would Lino. Though past comments are he’s refused to play in that position.
I agree about the smarts. He doesn’t appear to organise plays or command the edges in the early tackle count to set up plays and it’s very off the cuff stuff which on the odd ocassion works but often he’s run out, takes it too close to the line and gets shut down or forced a pass that doesn’t amount to much.
Not sure where the kicking game comes from. He can get decent height on bombs but they’re not what I’d call well placed.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"With Field and French struggling I can't see Wigan letting him go any time soon. If anyone comes in this season I reckon it'll be Trueman.'"
Me neither to be honest. There was rumour we had signed the Trueman show. Allegedly signed him and loaned him to FC for 4 weeks to join us for the run in this season. Would be a good move if true.
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| I think Lino's issues are as much about the team as him.
When Griffin plays, his double pump works. They took some time to get it going but it works now.
Others aren't there yet.
He's proved he can do it, like against Bradford when we were down on numbers.
We'll just have to see.
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| Quote ="FSW"For his entire Wakefield career, Lino has been saddled with being partnered with Miller's headless chicken act so my main concern with Lino is that he didn't push Miller aside and take control as a dominant half. This season should have shown us what Lino is capable of but he seems to have some chronic conditions that need to be cleared up or shipped out. The clock is ticking on his opportunities to impress that he can do the job required of him.'"
Miller never let Wakefield down ,was not quite the same player after he broke a bone against Wigan ,but still gave 100% and one of the better half we have had. Do not like how Lino gets all the stick for what as happened over the last few year Getting did of Hampshire and keeping Gaskell was a shocking move, letting Miller go to Cas was one more ,and all the time we have had Hood at 9 who as brought nothing to the attack of the spine .So my take on it lets get a attacking 9 and 6 and let's see how Lino goes .Leigh started of there season with there spine out they struggled ,they are back now and winning again because of the speed of there spine Wigan are struggling because the speed in there spine is out .Lino can not do it on is own and with the slow spine he has had this year to help him, think it unfair to blame him,and we have struggled more since he as been out injured .No I will get stick but unfair to blame one player for the last few year
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| Quote ="PopTart"I think Lino's issues are as much about the team as him.
When Griffin plays, his double pump works. They took some time to get it going but it works now.
Others aren't there yet.
He's proved he can do it, like against Bradford when we were down on numbers.
We'll just have to see.'"
So he can do it in a few games, in the championship, as long as he has players around him that could break a line with me passing them a ball like Griffin. He should be the stand out half back in the comp if we are thinking he is a first choice half for next year and he is a way off that. He's not good enough, simple.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I think Lino's issues are as much about the team as him.
When Griffin plays, his double pump works. They took some time to get it going but it works now.
Others aren't there yet.
He's proved he can do it, like against Bradford when we were down on numbers.
We'll just have to see.'"
His double pump doesn’t always work even with Griffin. It does sometimes but others it’s been too late and Griffin hasn’t taken it in or been caught with the ball. It does occasionally work.
At the bulls game he wasn’t on the side he regularly plays on. He was on the left and seemed to enjoy some success there as opposed to the right where moves regularly break down.
He proved he can do it but when i say few I’m being quite generous as it’s a handful of games over a couple of years. He’s more often proved that he struggles to initiate or control plays.
He’s with us though so hopefully we see more of his better performances. He’d be our best option now if he was fit.
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| Has someone put a bounty on Poptarts head?
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Agreed. I do actually think he would make a more decent 9 would Lino. Though past comments are he’s refused to play in that position.
I agree about the smarts. He doesn’t appear to organise plays or command the edges in the early tackle count to set up plays and it’s very off the cuff stuff which on the odd ocassion works but often he’s run out, takes it too close to the line and gets shut down or forced a pass that doesn’t amount to much.
Not sure where the kicking game comes from. He can get decent height on bombs but they’re not what I’d call well placed.'"
I've never understood the criticism Miller was on the receiving end of. One of the best half backs we've had in recent times.
Whilst I agreed about Lino potentially being a being a decent 9, that was when we were working to a much smaller budget. With Ellis in charge I'd much rather us sign a recognised hooker than trying to re-train someone already in his 30s.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"His double pump doesn’t always work even with Griffin. It does sometimes but others it’s been too late and Griffin hasn’t taken it in or been caught with the ball. It does occasionally work.
At the bulls game he wasn’t on the side he regularly plays on. He was on the left and seemed to enjoy some success there as opposed to the right where moves regularly break down.
He proved he can do it but when i say few I’m being quite generous as it’s a handful of games over a couple of years. He’s more often proved that he struggles to initiate or control plays.
He’s with us though so hopefully we see more of his better performances. He’d be our best option now if he was fit.'"
All I read there is that Lino is capable but others aren't able to keep up.
If it sometimes works then it works.
It's pretty clear to see the effect of not having him in the team.
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| Quote ="TimmySmith"Has someone put a bounty on Poptarts head?
Homme Vaste sure is hunting him down a fair bit on here!'"
Luckily I'm not too fussed so we are all good.
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| Quote ="TimmySmith"Has someone put a bounty on Poptarts head?
Homme Vaste sure is hunting him down a fair bit on here!'"
Yes, me.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Yes, me.'"
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| I'm liking Russell so far in 7 shirt for a change.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm liking Russell so far in 7 shirt for a change.'"
Corey Hall had a pretty good game for Cas also in right centre. Could form a good partnership with a try scorer like Walmsley outside him.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm liking Russell so far in 7 shirt for a change.'"
Thought he was poor never took line on,is kicking was poor, only try that was scored of one of is kicks was a Wigan try Not good enough to make us a top seven team
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| Quote ="alegend"Thought he was poor never took line on,is kicking was poor, only try that was scored of one of is kicks was a Wigan try Not good enough to make us a top seven team'"
Apart from the try Giants scored off his kick.
And we don't need a take the line on guy. He ran to the line and put passes out long and short.
Lolohia and Connor did a lot of the kicking.deep
And he tackled everything they threw at him.
I think he'll be great with Trueman.
But I guess we'll have to wait and see.
You are entitled to your opinion but me and Daryl think otherwise.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Apart from the try Giants scored off his kick.
And we don't need a take the line on guy. He ran to the line and put passes out long and short.
Lolohia and Connor did a lot of the kicking.deep
And he tackled everything they threw at him.
I think he'll be great with Trueman.
But I guess we'll have to wait and see.
You are entitled to your opinion but me and Daryl think otherwise.'"
“Me and Daryl”!
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| Quote ="PopTart"Apart from the try Giants scored off his kick.
And we don't need a take the line on guy. He ran to the line and put passes out long and short.
Lolohia and Connor did a lot of the kicking.deep
And he tackled everything they threw at him.
I think he'll be great with Trueman.
But I guess we'll have to wait and see.
You are entitled to your opinion but me and Daryl think otherwise.'"
POPTART ,you talk a lot of sense but to me when a team is struggling in S L it is down to injury or lack of creativity in the spine . As said Russell does not seem to create any thing .Truman was great but he as had a bad injury so I will keep quite till I see him play Main problem is 9 the lack of creativity there is shocking
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| Quote ="alegend"POPTART ,you talk a lot of sense but to me when a team is struggling in S L it is down to injury or lack of creativity in the spine . As said Russell does not seem to create any thing .Truman was great but he as had a bad injury so I will keep quite till I see him play Main problem is 9 the lack of creativity there is shocking'"
In terms of 9, I think Doyle is ready to make the step up to SL providing we get there and I think Harvey Smith will make a very good 9 but is probably a couple of years away from being ready to play week in week out. I like Hood but I am not sure he could cut it a SL level anymore so I do think a good 9 is an area we will target. I have heard Parcell mention which I would be happy with.
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| Franco on his way to Bradford allegedly.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Franco on his way to Bradford allegedly.'"
No Great loss, we have at least 4 better wingers than him. Just shows how bad we were last season because he looked like one of our better players.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"In terms of 9, I think Doyle is ready to make the step up to SL providing we get there and I think Harvey Smith will make a very good 9 but is probably a couple of years away from being ready to play week in week out. I like Hood but I am not sure he could cut it a SL level anymore so I do think a good 9 is an area we will target. I have heard Parcell mention which I would be happy with.'"
Do not think Doyle is ready for first choice 9 in S L yet,and do agree about Smith looks as though he is a right find Hope we do not sign Parcell he is 31years old takes up a quoter spot and why are H K R letting him gogo ?
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