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| Quote ="vastman"Incredible when you consider that the team that won last years Academy didn't have a single representative in the team. I wouldn't get sanctimonious if I were you as clearly there should have been more clubs represented, the question is why and what's the point in being champions?
You really are a one eyed supporter.'"
Sorry, what?
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Sorry, what?'"
I can't understand his rant either. I thought you made a valid point, to be honest, although if you take away Crusaders and Catalans that's 50% of Super League represented.
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| Quote ="vastman"Incredible when you consider that the team that won last years Academy didn't have a single representative in the team. I wouldn't get sanctimonious if I were you as clearly there should have been more clubs represented, the question is why and what's the point in being champions?
You really are a one eyed supporter.'"
Vasty. For you to call anyone one eyed is unbelievable! I present you with the FACTS. You may not like them but once again I will show you up.
2 of the representatives Adam Milner GB captain and Jordan Thompson (scored the try that got them back in the game off good work from Milner) CAME THROUGH THE TRINITY SCHOLARSHIP. Do not look for excuses your club let them go.
Trinity won the Academy league a couple of years back, fantastic. The fact of the matter is though that while Trinity were playing the 18's at that level most other clubs were using them in the 21's. Wakefield had a shocking set of 21's the year they won the comp and promoted nobody.
Another Wakefield Scholarship lad has just signed signed for Wigan and is regarded as the best half back of his age group,
Its time clubs realised winning trophies at this level count for NOTHING. Developing players s what its all about. Many of the lads today have had a shot a first team, the Trinity lads from the winning season have not.
The youth set up at Trinity is so poor you have to recruit the likes of Penny, Vievers, Johnson and the lad from Hull whose name escapes me. Where are the Academy champions?
Do not look for excuses, nobody is to blame but Trinity themselves, and please consider you own stance prior to calling anyone one eyed.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"I'd be happy if I was a cas fan, that young hooker played really well, same type of player as Lee Jackson. Danny Bridge looked tidy running out wide too, is he Chris Bridge's brother? He was there with a few other players.'"
Yes he is Chris's brother.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"I'd be happy if I was a cas fan, that young hooker played really well, same type of player as Lee Jackson. Danny Bridge looked tidy running out wide too, is he Chris Bridge's brother? He was there with a few other players.'"
Milner looked very good when he played last year and hopefully will be getting plenty of game time this year, been told that another young hooker we have called clarke has even more potential which bodes well for the future.
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Yup Adam Milner looked fantastic with the limited gametime he got last year. Expecting a big season from him this term.
As for the team: 17 players coming from just 6 Super League clubs is pathetic...'"
Perhaps you could have said well done to the team for what is probably the best moment of their RL lives to date before branding the team selection pathetic?
Just a thought
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| Quote ="vastman"Incredible when you consider that the team that won last years Academy didn't have a single representative in the team. I wouldn't get sanctimonious if I were you as clearly there should have been more clubs represented, the question is why and what's the point in being champions?
You really are a one eyed supporter.'"
All of Warrington's representatives played the whole season at u20 level (where Warrington finished top of the table over the regular season). Perhaps if Warrington have left them at u18 level all season they might have won the competition but have players not as well developed.
I know that Warrington has a club want their young players to be challenged week-in week-out so as to make them better players. This tends to give the club an u18 team made up primarily of u16's and u17's (but the best u17's play at u20 level) whilst the u20's consists of a large number of u18's. In fact O'Brien and Laithwaite who tunred out for England u18's have played almost exclusively at u20 level for two years now.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"All of Warrington's representatives played the whole season at u20 level (where Warrington finished top of the table over the regular season). Perhaps if Warrington have left them at u18 level all season they might have won the competition but have players not as well developed.
I know that Warrington has a club want their young players to be challenged week-in week-out so as to make them better players. This tends to give the club an u18 team made up primarily of u16's and u17's (but the best u17's play at u20 level) whilst the u20's consists of a large number of u18's. In fact O'Brien and Laithwaite who tunred out for England u18's have played almost exclusively at u20 level for two years now.'"
You get better much much faster playing against better opposition. Thompson and Milner are now both first team regulars ar Cas. They will be fantastic players by the end of next season. The youth policies at Wigan and Wire have to be applauded. I am amazed at the lack of Saints players though. That is unusual. The worrying thing for me now is that Wigan and Wire have top notch 1st teams with huge wage bills and I can't see many of the young ones breaking into the first team.
I hope the wigan coaching staff carry on their policy of dropping players no matter who they are. It will be difficult though. As we have seen, the aussies throw the teddy out and go home all the time. Unfortunatley the kids in this England team will probably end up being duel registered and develop a lot slower than they could.
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| Quote ="who needs flankers?"You get better much much faster playing against better opposition. Thompson and Milner are now both first team regulars ar Cas. They will be fantastic players by the end of next season. The youth policies at Wigan and Wire have to be applauded. I am amazed at the lack of Saints players though. That is unusual. The worrying thing for me now is that Wigan and Wire have top notch 1st teams with huge wage bills and I can't see many of the young ones breaking into the first team.
I hope the wigan coaching staff carry on their policy of dropping players no matter who they are. It will be difficult though. As we have seen, the aussies throw the teddy out and go home all the time. Unfortunatley the kids in this England team will probably end up being duel registered and develop a lot slower than they could.'"
thats not true mate.
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| Great result for the England lads.
Should be an interesting second test at Castleford on Friday night(if the thaw has set in by Friday)
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| Quote ="jonh"
The youth set up at Trinity is so poor you have to recruit the likes of Penny, Vievers, Johnson and the lad from Hull whose name escapes me. Where are the Academy champions?
Do not look for excuses, nobody is to blame but Trinity themselves, and please consider you own stance prior to calling anyone one eyed.'"
Sorry John but I have to dissagree with that part of your post!
The youth set up at Trinity is very good and consistently identifys, recruits and develops a lot of tallent. The problem at Wakefield seems to be a lack of commitment or policy when promoting those players to 1st team football.
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| Quote ="south of the river"Great result for the England lads.
Should be an interesting second test at Castleford on Friday night(if the thaw has set in by Friday)'"
On which note - well done to Leigh for getting the game on. I don't think too many other games around the country have gone ahead this weekend.
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| Quote ="The Clan"Sorry John but I have to dissagree with that part of your post!
The youth set up at Trinity is very good and consistently identifys, recruits and develops a lot of tallent. The problem at Wakefield seems to be a lack of commitment or policy when promoting those players to 1st team football.'"
Hence the system is poor.
I also believe holding those 18's back to win the trophy was a massive error which could cost a few of them a shot at first team rugby which is criminal.
The idea of a youth set up is to develop players and get them through to first team level and Trinity have failed to do so, or have let many of the best younger lads leave to sometimes higher profile clubs, but often to clubs of the same standing which is criminal.
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| Quote ="Gazemous"As for the team: 17 players coming from just 6 Super League clubs is pathetic...'"
The England Academy Squad in full is as follows:
Danny Bridge, Greg Burke, Jack Hughes, Ryan King, Sam Powell, Matthew Russell, Matthew Sarsfield (Wigan Warriors)
Ben Evans, Rhys Evans, James Laithwaite, Gareth O’Brien, Ryan Shaw (Warrington Wolves)
Adam O’Brien, Cain Southernwood (Bradford Bulls)
Carl Foster (St Helens)
Olsi Krasniqi (Harlequins RL)
Reece Lyne (Hull FC)
Adam Milner (Castleford Tigers)
Jared Stewart (Leeds Rhinos)
Jordan Thompson (Castleford Tigers)
9 clubs represented in the "squad"....10 if Hull Kingston Australians had any running our for the roos
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| Quote ="gutterfax"The England Academy Squad in full is as follows:
Danny Bridge, Greg Burke, Jack Hughes, Ryan King, Sam Powell, Matthew Russell, Matthew Sarsfield (Wigan Warriors)
Ben Evans, Rhys Evans, James Laithwaite, Gareth O’Brien, Ryan Shaw (Warrington Wolves)
Adam O’Brien, Cain Southernwood (Bradford Bulls)
Carl Foster (St Helens)
Olsi Krasniqi (Harlequins RL)
Reece Lyne (Hull FC)
Adam Milner (Castleford Tigers)
Jared Stewart (Leeds Rhinos)
Jordan Thompson (Castleford Tigers)
9 clubs represented in the "squad"....10 if Hull Kingston Australians had any running our for the roos
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| Quote ="jonh"8.'"
MY BAD.....although I did just cut and paste it from another thread....
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| Quote ="gutterfax"MY BAD.....although I did just cut and paste it from another thread....'"
Still very poor looking apart from Warrington and the pies
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still can't find any reference to the result over here in Oz just yet.
However I can find the previous results of the aussies winning. One on the NRL site itself, the other on the NSWRL site.
All they know here is that they've won in England.
It was Adrian Morley a few years ago on the Footy Show that congratulated the Academy boys when they beat the Aussie schoolboys. Something the hosts didn't mention, but they did they week before when they won. You gotta laugh.
www.nrl.com/news/news/newsarticl ... fault.aspx
www.nswrl.com.au/default.aspx?s= ... o-from-two
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still can't find any reference to the result over here in Oz just yet.
However I can find the previous results of the aussies winning. One on the NRL site itself, the other on the NSWRL site.
All they know here is that they've won in England.
It was Adrian Morley a few years ago on the Footy Show that congratulated the Academy boys when they beat the Aussie schoolboys. Something the hosts didn't mention, but they did they week before when they won. You gotta laugh.
www.nrl.com/news/news/newsarticl ... fault.aspx
www.nswrl.com.au/default.aspx?s= ... o-from-two
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Excellent. Bout time. Only two days after the event and written by the RFL.
www.nswrl.com.au/default.aspx?s= ... schoolboys
and the nswrl post the same article half hour later.
Atleast it's up. Well done to the RFL for supplying them the report. Don't understand why the aussie journalist John Coates didn't supply a report for a more important game than the one he wrote when the aussies won??? Or did he? Anyone?
www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page ... onID=26416
another article written by an australian for the sake of fairness
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Excellent. Bout time. Only two days after the event and written by the RFL.
www.nswrl.com.au/default.aspx?s= ... schoolboys
and the nswrl post the same article half hour later.
Atleast it's up. Well done to the RFL for supplying them the report. Don't understand why the aussie journalist John Coates didn't supply a report for a more important game than the one he wrote when the aussies won??? Or did he? Anyone?
www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page ... onID=26416
another article written by an australian for the sake of fairness
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| They should be scheduling the next game at the LSV as well. The pitch was like a bowling green and it would give a few more days to publicise the event.
The LSV is like a who's who of RL at the moment with so many teams using its facilities.
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| Quote ="maurice"They should be scheduling the next game at the LSV as well. The pitch was like a bowling green and it would give a few more days to publicise the event.
The LSV is like a who's who of RL at the moment with so many teams using its facilities.'"
You dont think that might p*ss off those who have already bought tickets and wouldnt be able to travel to leigh?
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| Quote ="pyeman"You dont think that might p*ss off those who have already bought tickets and wouldnt be able to travel to leigh?'"
It's either that or call the game off, and with respect I think the Aussies have travelled that much further and then end up not playing?
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| No disrespect to Cas but it is a poor stadium, with a short pitch that is uneven, doesnt have undersoil heating and must be a risk as to whether the game will be played, looking at the forecasts you will have it very cold till Thursday when it will get up to 5/6 degrees. Where will the teams train ?
Leigh took it at short notice last week, the other option could be Huddersfield, and the £3 ticket sales in advance wont break the bank for refunds
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"It's either that or call the game off, and with respect I think the Aussies have travelled that much further and then end up not playing?'"
How do you know the game will have to be called off?
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