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| People within the game, including officials, openly discuss the ongoing issues with Wigan's tactics so why are Wigan fans reluctant to accept an airing of them on here? FWIW I suspect matters won't come to a head until there is a career-ending scenario.
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| Quote ="MjM"People within the game, including officials, openly discuss the ongoing issues with Wigan's tactics so why are Wigan fans reluctant to accept an airing of them on here? FWIW I suspect matters won't come to a head until there is a career-ending scenario.'"
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| This thread "Dirty Wigan" was started by a Leeds fan minutes after the end of the game in which Leeds lost.
Why wasn't started two weeks ago when the two teams met and Wigan lost?
Perhaps due to that fact, Wigan lost!
Both team then played with the same tactics, different result as Leeds tactics meant the Wigan players were overpowered in the physical game that it was.
The same physical game was played last Saturday just that Wigan upped their game to match Leeds, then Leeds lost!
The replies by neutral fans are the best, really good!
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| Quote ="MjM"People within the game, including officials, openly discuss the ongoing issues with Wigan's tactics so why are Wigan fans reluctant to accept an airing of them on here? FWIW I suspect matters won't come to a head until there is a career-ending scenario.'"
Because it's based on the implication that Wigan are the only team to play it tough. I watch most televised games and a lot of NRL too. In every game there are elbows, knees, general 'roughing up'. Dirty tactics. Call them what you will but it happens in EVERY game. It happened when I played at school. It's part of the game whether supporters like it or not.
If opposition fans choose only to see it when a Wigan player does it to suit their own agenda then there is not a lot can be said but you can't blame Wigan fans getting a bit riled by it.
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| Quote ="ABP'"No, I don't want to go back to any of your posts. I don't want a conversation. It's just hard work seeing your boring bias droning.
I don't really post on RLFANS anymore but would like you to shut up for a bit so I can read other people's opinions.
Cheers.'"
Again this is just childish, its probably good that you don't post very often because if you don't like reading or discussing things that you don't agree with I suspect an internet forum isn't for you. If you aren't prepared to discuss things like an adult then theres no point in being here. and if you can't be bothered reading what I've put then whats the point?.
You may want me to 'shut up' but that's just because you don't agree with me which is in my opinion pathetic, and if its such hard work you should use the ignore function rather than moaning.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Why wasn't started two weeks ago when the two teams met and Wigan lost?
Perhaps due to that fact, Wigan lost!'"
its probably more down to the fact that it was a different game and one where no one got sin binned for foul play and causing a fight. FWIW I personally don't think the OP is a fair one and over the top, I don't think Wigan are particularly anymore a dirty side than the rest, although there were a couple of incidents in this game where I thought they were a touch shall we say 'grubby' and thats what Im trying to discuss.
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| Sshh.
Anyway, disciplinary - No charges in the Wigan v Leeds game as expected.
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| Total number of players charged after Saturday's game - zero.
18 pages of embarrassing, bitter drivel.
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| Quote ="ABP'"Sshh.
Anyway, disciplinary - No charges in the Wigan v Leeds game as expected.'"
The only incident I would have liked to have seen dealt with is the dangerous throw, that is not needed in the game.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Total number of players charged after Saturday's game - zero.
18 pages of embarrassing, bitter drivel.'"
Judging by the FC fans opinions on Crookes, they are hoping he will cop a long ban.
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| I think the Crosby throw had the potential to be the most dangerous incident in the game, however the player lands on his back, I didnt see any malicious intent and there were other players involved with the tackle, possibly making it worse than if it had just been Crosby.
On that side of things, I think a penalty was a fair shout.
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| Quote ="blackpoolwigan"I think the Crosby throw had the potential to be the most dangerous incident in the game, however the player lands on his back, I didnt see any malicious intent and there were other players involved with the tackle, possibly making it worse than if it had just been Crosby.
On that side of things, I think a penalty was a fair shout.'"
Received a warning
Correct decision
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| So dirty wigan aint all that dirty after all proves what a massive over reaction there's been to a bit of old fashioned biff. People really do need to stop listening to Eddie and stevo's drivel
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| Biff dealt with correctly. Crosby's tackle, whatever the intention, should have been a ban. Needs to be a clear red light against lifting the legs and tipping post-McKinnon.
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| Leeds fan reacting differently due to a lost compared to a win, Wigan fans wouldn't do such a thing!
P.S. Does anybody remember the 2010 playoffs when Leeds won at the DW and Leeds were filth and McGuire deserved death? Then remember when Wigan won the return 2 weeks later and they were just celebrating a great performance and a return to Old Trafford.
Something about pots and kettles springs to mind.
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| How can there be no charges? From reading this thread, Michael McIllorum is lucky not to be charged with attempted murder according to some fans on here.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"Biff dealt with correctly. Crosby's tackle, whatever the intention, should have been a ban. Needs to be a clear red light against lifting the legs and tipping post-McKinnon.'"
Agreed. The fact that Hall landed on his back is irrelevant IMO, there is absolutely no need at all for Crosby to deliberately tip a player who is already in the process of being tackled it needs stamping out of the game no after what club is involved.
Anyway I do hope now the Wigan fans seem to have a new found faith in the disciplinary panel, that they will accept their judgement as correct for the rest of the season
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"How can there be no charges? From reading this thread, Michael McIllorum is lucky not to be charged with attempted murder according to some fans on here.'"
The only thing MM should be charged with is stupidity, the yellow for the high shot was clearly sufficient.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Peacock didn't like it and went into his shell.'"
I think you should let your guide dog write your next contribution, Peacock didn't take a backward step all game and was itching to be first carrier in after the 'bother'.
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Quote ="Father Ted"This thread "Dirty Wigan" was started by a Leeds fan minutes after the end of the game in which Leeds lost.
Why wasn't started two weeks ago when the two teams met and Wigan lost?
Perhaps due to that fact, Wigan lost!
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Funny you should say that since I actually posted on the Wigan forum two weeks ago about the dirty & overly niggly play from Wigan at Headingley that night. You won't find the post though since it was removed by the trigger happy monkeys that moderate the Wigan board.
You will find a thread full of similar thoughts on the Leeds board though.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=568328&tsmp=1400510477
HTH
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Quote ="Father Ted"This thread "Dirty Wigan" was started by a Leeds fan minutes after the end of the game in which Leeds lost.
Why wasn't started two weeks ago when the two teams met and Wigan lost?
Perhaps due to that fact, Wigan lost!
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Funny you should say that since I actually posted on the Wigan forum two weeks ago about the dirty & overly niggly play from Wigan at Headingley that night. You won't find the post though since it was removed by the trigger happy monkeys that moderate the Wigan board.
You will find a thread full of similar thoughts on the Leeds board though.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=568328&tsmp=1400510477
HTH
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| You know I read this thread, and in regard to certain fans all I can think of is a certain song from that Disney movie Frozen my daughter is obsessed with lol.
I would link it but dont think its allowed.
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| No charges from the RFL? Quick, over to the " Corruption is alive and well" thread!
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| There are a few things on this thread that perplex me...
1) The insistence that Wigan were only giving Leeds a taste of their own medicine - any specific examples that you can cite of this, or is it more of the vague and generally unsubstantiated McGuire/Bailey/Ablett is the dirtiest player about sort of nonsense?
2) The denial of many Wigan fans that a lot of what went on is simply unacceptable. Could Dudson have complained if he'd been sin binned for a late, off the ball shoulder charge to the back of a player? Or if Crosby had been sent off for his stupidity? Or your captain for getting ten for going high 10 seconds after the ref had called for calm?
3) The weird superiority complex of some on here because some Leeds fans (not all by a long stretch) have issues with the way Wigan went about the game. Two weeks ago Shaun Wane was bitching about refereeing decisions and on Saturday he went downstairs bleating that it wasn't fair - but you lot have the high ground because some Leeds fans don't have the same class as our coach and players?
At the end of the day it was a close game that either side could have won. Wigan fans will rightly applaud the resilience shown by their team - but that doesn't make complaints about the legitimacy of some of their tactics invalid, and to brush any complaint away and dismiss them all as bitterness or sour grapes is to ignore the failings your team has. With a different referee there could easily have been a couple of red cards, and that's the risk Wigan will continue to run until it happens, and based on incidents this year it will happen. Similarly, with a different outcome we could have been seeing footage of McGuire and Hall stretchered off with serious injuries, I don't care who you support, but if you think that those two incidents are acceptable, or just 'part of the game' then IMO you don't really support rugby league.
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| Quote ="Big Jim Slade"There are a few things on this thread that perplex me...
1) The insistence that Wigan were only giving Leeds a taste of their own medicine - any specific examples that you can cite of this, or is it more of the vague and generally unsubstantiated McGuire/Bailey/Ablett is the dirtiest player about sort of nonsense?
2) The denial of many Wigan fans that a lot of what went on is simply unacceptable. Could Dudson have complained if he'd been sin binned for a late, off the ball shoulder charge to the back of a player? Or if Crosby had been sent off for his stupidity? Or your captain for getting ten for going high 10 seconds after the ref had called for calm?
3) The weird superiority complex of some on here because some Leeds fans (not all by a long stretch) have issues with the way Wigan went about the game. Two weeks ago Shaun Wane was bitching about refereeing decisions and on Saturday he went downstairs bleating that it wasn't fair - but you lot have the high ground because some Leeds fans don't have the same class as our coach and players?
At the end of the day it was a close game that either side could have won. Wigan fans will rightly applaud the resilience shown by their team - but that doesn't make complaints about the legitimacy of some of their tactics invalid, and to brush any complaint away and dismiss them all as bitterness or sour grapes is to ignore the failings your team has. With a different referee there could easily have been a couple of red cards, and that's the risk Wigan will continue to run until it happens, and based on incidents this year it will happen. Similarly, with a different outcome we could have been seeing footage of McGuire and Hall stretchered off with serious injuries, I don't care who you support, but if you think that those two incidents are acceptable, or just 'part of the game' then IMO you don't really support rugby league.'"
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Christ you'd think we were playing tiddly winks the way some of you are carrying on. The difference between the Hull high tackle and Micky Mac's is stark: the former nearly took his head off, accidental or not. The latter was overly aggressive but first contact was around the shoulders, it was just poorly controlled. Yellow was about right just to cool things off but really there wasn't much in it. Had there not been trouble before I'd expect penalty and a talking to, no more.
And anyone who inks Wigan were the only team who made foul play then need to pull their one eyed heads out there @rses.'"
Yeah, I think all this was said by many Wigan fans right after he broke kirk dixons jaw.
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