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| Quote ="frank5613":1lgadunkNo wrong City, & you must know im not a Bulls fan'"
I know you're a Cas fan.
So I await your announcement that you won't be buying a Cas shirt or going to a Cas home game this season in accordance with your earlier stated views. |
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| Quote ="Him"He's a Cas fan.
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How do you know i support Cas, have you seen me there or are you guessing by reeding posts some one wrights on other sites, Mr Him |
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| Quote Quote ="frank5613"I know you're a Cas fan.
So I await your announcement that you won't be buying a Cas shirt or going to a Cas home game this season in accordance with your earlier stated views.'"
How do you know i support Cas, have you sen me there or are yguessingsing by reeding postssomeonemone on other sites Mr Him'"
Quote fixed (your awful spelling remains though).
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How do you know i support Cas, have you seen me there or are you guessing by reeding posts some one wrights on other sites, Mr Him'"
From this thread - viewtopic.php?f=16&t=539047&tsmp=1352823792&start=10
Quote ="frank5613"=#FF8000I have been a cas fan for a long time, the players that took to the field this year need to stand back and take a good look at them selves and give it all they have and stop blaming things on Millward this as been going on for as long as i can remember the players are paid well for playing a game most of us have played for the fun of it so if they do not want to play because they do not like the boss then they should try a 40 hour week for £6 per hour'"
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How do you know i support Cas, have you seen me there or are you guessing by reeding posts some one wrights on other sites, Mr Him'"
From this thread - viewtopic.php?f=16&t=539047&tsmp=1352823792&start=10
Quote ="frank5613"=#FF8000I have been a cas fan for a long time, the players that took to the field this year need to stand back and take a good look at them selves and give it all they have and stop blaming things on Millward this as been going on for as long as i can remember the players are paid well for playing a game most of us have played for the fun of it so if they do not want to play because they do not like the boss then they should try a 40 hour week for £6 per hour'"
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| Quote ="frank5613"I have been a cas fan for a long time, the players that took to the field this year need to stand back and take a good look at them selves and give it all they have and stop blaming things on Millward this as been going on for as long as i can remember the players are paid well for playing a game most of us have played for the fun of it so if they do not want to play because they do not like the boss then they should try a 40 hour week for £6 per hour'"
So now we have established you are a Cas fan, can we assume that you and your family boycotted all Castleford games last season due to their sponsor's questionable business ethics? Or are we seeing a classic case of double standards here? |
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Ah, but he [icould[/i just have been [ipretending[/i to be a Cas fan in [ihis spare time[/i . . .
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Ah, but he [icould[/i just have been [ipretending[/i to be a Cas fan in [ihis spare time[/i . . .
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Heheh, deep down, we are all Cas fans
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hands up you found out i support Cas,and proud to, but you will never see me with a shirt with a big blue stain on it, i cannot bring my self to say there name,
if Bradford get as much out of there new savior as Cas did with theres, then good look, Cas have noassociationn with them now, they have few Friends other hear, but every club makes mistakes, we learned the hard way.
At the end of the day money talks, but some people do not care how they get it, but some do.
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| Quote ="frank5613"hands up you found out i support Cas,and proud to, but you will never see me with a shirt with a big blue stain on it, i cannot bring my self to say there name,
if Bradford get as much out of there new savior as Cas did with theres, then good look, Cas have noassociationn with them now, they have few Friends other hear, but every club makes mistakes, we learned the hard way.
At the end of the day money talks, but some people do not care how they get it, but some do.'"
How many Cas games have you attended in the last few seasons? |
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An insolvency professional body released an article on "payday" loans and their popularity which reminded me of this thread.
Source R3 - Association of Business Recovery Professionals - www.r3.org.uk/index.cfm?page=111 ... fpage=1008
[i5 million British adults considering taking out a payday loan in the next six months
– One in four (26%) of 18-24 year olds likely to seek a payday loan
– 13% of GB adults have prioritised paying back these loans over essentials such as food
Since this time a year ago, there has been approximately a 50% increase on the number of GB adults who say they are likely to seek a payday loan in the next six months, up from 3.5 million individuals to 5 million today. The payday loan can no longer be regarded as a niche form of credit.[/i
Therefore, like it or not, Provident provide an essential product and get well remunerated for it. If they didn't do it then someone else would and it is a competitive (and regulated) market at the end of the day. There are plenty of other companies out there that i don't particularly like or intend to have anything to do with personally but i think it is a bit hypocritical to criticise the Bulls for their sponsorship deal. |
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An insolvency professional body released an article on "payday" loans and their popularity which reminded me of this thread.
Source R3 - Association of Business Recovery Professionals - www.r3.org.uk/index.cfm?page=111 ... fpage=1008
[i5 million British adults considering taking out a payday loan in the next six months
– One in four (26%) of 18-24 year olds likely to seek a payday loan
– 13% of GB adults have prioritised paying back these loans over essentials such as food
Since this time a year ago, there has been approximately a 50% increase on the number of GB adults who say they are likely to seek a payday loan in the next six months, up from 3.5 million individuals to 5 million today. The payday loan can no longer be regarded as a niche form of credit.[/i
Therefore, like it or not, Provident provide an essential product and get well remunerated for it. If they didn't do it then someone else would and it is a competitive (and regulated) market at the end of the day. There are plenty of other companies out there that i don't particularly like or intend to have anything to do with personally but i think it is a bit hypocritical to criticise the Bulls for their sponsorship deal. | |
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| Quote ="pocket 4's"There are plenty of other companies out there that i don't particularly like or intend to have anything to do with personally but i think it is a bit hypocritical to criticise the Bulls for their sponsorship deal.'"
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The issue I have with Provident is not that they lend money at high interest rates, it's more that they actively seek to keep their customers in debt. It is a key part of their business model to offer new loans to pay off existing part-paid ones and keep the customers "locked in". The proportion of Provident loans that are paid up in the conventional sense is tiny. The vast majority of Provident customers remain in debt to them forever due to the cycle of topping up that the company pushes at them constantly.
Having said that, Rugby League simply can't financially afford to have moral values over this type of thing and nobody can blame Bradford for accepting this deal. Good luck to them.
However it is a strange dichotomy of hoping that a major club's sponsor does not get any new business out of the deal. I hope Bradford Bulls prosper because of it, but I hope Provident do not.
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so as long as they don't bother you its fine, they will wont all the dater of the fans then they will be on your door step offering loans
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| Quote ="frank5613"so as long as they don't bother you its fine, they will wont all the dater of the fans then they will be on your door step offering loans'"
That made no sense whatsoever. How many Cas games have you attended in the last few seasons? |
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| Quote ="Derwent"The issue I have with Provident is not that they lend money at high interest rates, it's more that they actively seek to keep their customers in debt. It is a key part of their business model to offer new loans to pay off existing part-paid ones and keep the customers "locked in". ...'"
That's not just the Provident though. I've received offers of new loans over old by high street banks just as you get near the end of an existing loan. |
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| Quote ="Wheels"How many Cas games have you attended in the last few seasons?'"
Last year, all though a season ticket holder i only saw about 3 games, most of the year i spent in the LGI with meningitis, hope to be able to go more next year, but i still will get a ticket |
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| Quote ="frank5613"so as long as they don't bother you its fine, they will wont all the dater of the fans then they will be on your door step offering loans'"
Err Provident don't go walking the streets knocking on doors asking if you want a loan. YOU have to approach THEM. But given your arguments are based off the whole "I saw it on the telly therefore it must be 100% true" I don't think we need put too much stock in what you say. |
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| Quote ="childofthenorthern"That's not just the Provident though. I've received offers of new loans over old by high street banks just as you get near the end of an existing loan.'"
Yeah? Well going by that I'd say that you made your payments regularly and on time. Therefore the bank considered you a good risk for further lending. Which is what all banks do. It'd be stupid of any bank to lend to someone who'll never pay them back. |
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| Quote ="frank5613"Last year, all though a season ticket holder i only saw about 3 games, most of the year i spent in the LGI with meningitis, hope to be able to go more next year, but i still will get a ticket'"
So your pathetic boycott of Bradford next season it is a classic case of double standards then, just as I thought.
As you were... |
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| Quote ="frank5613"so as long as they don't bother you its fine, they will wont all the dater of the fans then they will be on your door step offering loans'"
I'm going to stick my neck out and say that the Information Commissioner would have something to say about Bradford Bulls handing over the data of 9,000 season ticket holders to a financial services company without their permission. |
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"I'm going to stick my neck out and say that the Information Commissioner would have something to say about Bradford Bulls handing over the data of 9,000 season ticket holders to a financial services company without their permission.'"
The beautiful irony there is that is exactly what the sponsor of his own club wanted to do just over 12 months ago...
Lovely stuff this double standards lark. |
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Quote ="pocket 4's"An insolvency professional body released an article on "payday" loans and their popularity which reminded me of this thread.
Source R3 - Association of Business Recovery Professionals - www.r3.org.uk/index.cfm?page=111 ... fpage=1008
[i5 million British adults considering taking out a payday loan in the next six months
– One in four (26%) of 18-24 year olds likely to seek a payday loan
– 13% of GB adults have prioritised paying back these loans over essentials such as food
Since this time a year ago, there has been approximately a 50% increase on the number of GB adults who say they are likely to seek a payday loan in the next six months, up from 3.5 million individuals to 5 million today. The payday loan can no longer be regarded as a niche form of credit.[/i
Therefore, like it or not, Provident provide an essential product and get well remunerated for it. If they didn't do it then someone else would and it is a competitive (and regulated) market at the end of the day. There are plenty of other companies out there that i don't particularly like or intend to have anything to do with personally but i think it is a bit hypocritical to criticise the Bulls for their sponsorship deal.'"
Bank charges have a lot to answer for on that front.
Whilst I've no doubt that the rise in PDL firms is down to wider economic issues, a fact that is often missed is that (despite the horrendous APR) a PDL is often cheaper than the myriad of bank charges that are levied should you inadvertently stray over your overdraft limit.
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Source R3 - Association of Business Recovery Professionals - www.r3.org.uk/index.cfm?page=111 ... fpage=1008
[i5 million British adults considering taking out a payday loan in the next six months
– One in four (26%) of 18-24 year olds likely to seek a payday loan
– 13% of GB adults have prioritised paying back these loans over essentials such as food
Since this time a year ago, there has been approximately a 50% increase on the number of GB adults who say they are likely to seek a payday loan in the next six months, up from 3.5 million individuals to 5 million today. The payday loan can no longer be regarded as a niche form of credit.[/i
Therefore, like it or not, Provident provide an essential product and get well remunerated for it. If they didn't do it then someone else would and it is a competitive (and regulated) market at the end of the day. There are plenty of other companies out there that i don't particularly like or intend to have anything to do with personally but i think it is a bit hypocritical to criticise the Bulls for their sponsorship deal.'"
Bank charges have a lot to answer for on that front.
Whilst I've no doubt that the rise in PDL firms is down to wider economic issues, a fact that is often missed is that (despite the horrendous APR) a PDL is often cheaper than the myriad of bank charges that are levied should you inadvertently stray over your overdraft limit.
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yes the sponsor did, and Cas side no thats when the money stopped
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